Wow, this guide is amazing. I'm only halfway through it but so far it's been very clear and concise. Also: proper grammar and punctuation + professional style = win

Makhno

Sweden585 Posts

October 26 2008 16:41 GMT

#43

Great work, very professional and well-structured. Gogo more!

daz

Canada643 Posts

October 26 2008 18:39 GMT

#44

you didnt include my favourite pvt BO, 1gate range nexus. basically you just one gate range pump goons till you have 400 surplus minerals then take your nat. this will happen at around 30 pop or when you have 3 goons. you will easily be able to hold off an FD if you know how to goon micro. 2 fac will own you easily so you have to scout well but other then that its pretty much economically the strongest build other then 14nex.

MER

Bulgaria125 Posts

October 26 2008 19:19 GMT

#45

Woot, this is the best-presented guide ive ever read, thanks a lot. itll surely improve a noob's play like mine immensely

. waiting for the other matchups

Debeli

Croatia93 Posts

October 26 2008 22:53 GMT

#46

I was wondering is it better to attack from more sides when u flank. I mean, if I attack from 4 sides (by that i don't mean 12, 3, 9, 6, i mean like 1, 11, 3, 9), I actually get hit by more mines if he mined properly but i also get past his vultures on some sides (i guess he's blocking front with them). So, is it better to just divide army on half and attack like that or is it better to spread them as much as it gets so u can get better goon spread and maybe getting zlots to tanks without meeting mines?

Pokebunny

United States10654 Posts

October 27 2008 02:46 GMT

#47

On October 27 2008 07:53 Debeli wrote:
I was wondering is it better to attack from more sides when u flank. I mean, if I attack from 4 sides (by that i don't mean 12, 3, 9, 6, i mean like 1, 11, 3, 9), I actually get hit by more mines if he mined properly but i also get past his vultures on some sides (i guess he's blocking front with them). So, is it better to just divide army on half and attack like that or is it better to spread them as much as it gets so u can get better goon spread and maybe getting zlots to tanks without meeting mines?

I guess it really depends on the map and positions. Cross positions on a python-style map, flank as many sides as possible. Close positions, there's less room to flank, so make good use of shuttles as well as try to sandwich his army.

Amber[LighT]

United States5078 Posts

October 27 2008 17:43 GMT

#48

this is good, but it's aimed for people more at the D+ level than the C+ level. Idk I know this stuff already :/

GrandInquisitor

New York City13113 Posts

October 27 2008 18:02 GMT

#49

Two thoughts:

Armor upgrade affects probes, if you have +1 armor an unupgraded vulture takes 3 not 2 kills to kill a probe.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=68289#15 addresses the arbiter/energy upgrade thing nicely. In particular - you have to wait until the upgrade finishes before building an arbiter, else that arbiter will not reap the benefit of the energy upgrade

-_-

United States7081 Posts

October 27 2008 18:50 GMT

#50

Probably already said, but use spoilers.

My mind can't wrap itself around the guide's format when blocks of text separate the headings.

LordWeird

United States3411 Posts

October 27 2008 18:51 GMT

#51

marry me salv

im begging you

xhuwin

United States476 Posts

October 27 2008 20:53 GMT

#52

This is am AMAZING guide; thank you.

Thavg

United States35 Posts

October 27 2008 23:02 GMT

#53

This thread really helped my D play excellently =)

neotoss

China217 Posts

October 27 2008 23:53 GMT

#54

very good Guide! Thanks a lot!

shavingcream66

United States1219 Posts

October 28 2008 00:19 GMT

#55

WOW awesome read man. I think I can beat pros now easily

DamageControL

United States4222 Posts

October 28 2008 01:05 GMT

#56

D+ guide.
Luckily I'm D+
:D thanks a bunches

SuperJongMan

Jamaica11586 Posts

October 28 2008 02:00 GMT

#57

For a guide written for C+ level gamers, I think it's way too basic and lacks a lot of key timings and varations of scenarios that the bo's play out in. If I was C+, this guide -_-;; wouldn't ever get me to B- -_-;; or even teach me anything.

It's like a D+ users guide -_-;; But it's a good guide.

You shoulda mentioned how to harass with shuttles early game to slow down terran macro. A standard game isn't just 3 base 9 gate gogogo. -_-;; That is a sure-fire way to get steam-rolled unless you totally out-fight (luckbox mine) the terran in the center.

O, so now that the jackass reads the thread, he finds that the original thread maker said it's a D guide. OOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo k.

Nice Guide. THUMBS UP.