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[Request] Fast ultralisk build?

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kei-clone
Profile Joined June 2008
United States31 Posts
July 06 2008 19:39 GMT
#1
I remember in the video tutorials done by TL that there was mention of a fast ultralisk build that's occasionally used by higher level players that's proven to be somewhat viable against terran. However, they did not go into detail about this BO other than that it uses two bases. Where can I find detailed BO info or reps of this build being used?
imthemaster
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States115 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-06 19:51:38
July 06 2008 19:51 GMT
#2
click on replays at the bottom left, and scroll down a bit till you find savior vs sea, on andromeda. Fast ultralisk build might be easier to pull of on certain maps,

thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
July 06 2008 19:55 GMT
#3
loom for the strat thread where zulu talks about his showmatch against a svs player who way outclasses him.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-06 20:17:49
July 06 2008 20:15 GMT
#4
This is the thread Haji is referring to.

Generally you play standard 3hatch muta, with the exception that you add an evolution chamber right after your Lair is started, and immediately begin your carapace upgrade. Zergling speed is not researched until your mutalisks are out and harassing, and a large mutaling force is used to kill the Terran's first push. When your hive tech is begun, add another evolution chamber for melee upgrades, while continuing to upgrade carapace when the first upgrade finishes. At Hive completion, get Adrenal Glands and an Ultralisk Cavern, and get Ultralisk armor before speed. You will need scourge in order to keep the Terran vessel count low; picking off firebats with your mutalisks is also crucial to success.

Another excellent thread that examines this build:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=66117

A post I made in that thread :
On February 07 2008 09:27 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
This is what I generally do:
+ Show Spoiler [Disclaimer!] +
I suck me low apm chobo TT etc.

12hatch
11pool
14hatch
16gas
15over
(standard much :p)
First 100 gas goes to lair, start evolution chamber as soon as possible after lair starts
+1 carapace as soon as evo finishes
Get around 10-12 mutalisks and harass etc., research ling speed while harassing
Once I've reached my desired mutalisk mark, I start to pump lings like no tomorrow and set up a s1ck a$$ flank!!1!
I try to secure third gas at a usual timing, queens nest once third gas secured, and then hive ASAP
I then add another evo chamber when hive finishes and start crack+ultra cavern
+2 as soon as +1 finishes, start melee as soon as second evo finishes
ultra armor first, then speed.
*I notice that a dropship will always arrive at this timing, I don't know if it's standard but I like to have scourge in place at each hatch just in case :p
Because i've been pumping lings+drones since my muta popped, I have quite the gas stockpile which I can use for ultra+defiler should it become necessary.
From here on I try to keep up macro/micro while abusing my massive upgrade advantage <3

ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-06 20:24:07
July 06 2008 20:17 GMT
#5
double post sorry, hit quote rather than edit
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
July 06 2008 20:24 GMT
#6
Defilers, you cant do this without defilers.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
guMmiwormz
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States312 Posts
July 06 2008 21:24 GMT
#7
http://starcraft.strategy-gaming.com/sc/viewtopic.php?t=2654

goes a bit more in depth with build orders.
kei-clone
Profile Joined June 2008
United States31 Posts
July 06 2008 21:50 GMT
#8
awesome replies. lots to read, thx for the help
Aux1
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States780 Posts
July 06 2008 21:51 GMT
#9
you can also go two base ultra rush, which imo is less effective but also works, the trick is to have +2+2 by the time your ultras pop, and more then likely u will need to add a defiler mound asap to hold off a sunken break from tanks at your natural
Play
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia608 Posts
July 07 2008 03:10 GMT
#10
I remember the vod, it was one of artosis' tsl replay analysises of a game between him and incontrol.

but yeah, all they say is that goes off 2 bases and the best way to stop it is to sunk break before they get ultras.
jmascis
kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
July 07 2008 03:25 GMT
#11
Have you seen chosens ultralisk rush? He skips all lair tech for ultralisks.
prOxi.bOn ; \\ What makes most people feel happy/Leads us headlong into harm.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
July 07 2008 04:17 GMT
#12
On July 07 2008 05:24 Cloud wrote:
Defilers, you cant do this without defilers.


The entire point of crazy zerg is to skip lukers and defilers to get lots of ultras out as soon as possible... hence why it's so risky.
Blu-Ray
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland93 Posts
July 07 2008 08:08 GMT
#13
I used to play 3 Hatch then gas, Lair, speed for ling - standard. When my Lair is done i get queen nest and 2 evos at same time - start upgrades and tech to Hive to get cracklings and ultras. This strat just kick ass at lower levels. When I am tired climbing ladder, i change to Zerg and do this strat on every Terran till C.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
July 07 2008 08:16 GMT
#14
Keep in mind...this strat relies heavily on your muta micro. If you can't keep him reasonably contained/cautious long or well enough, or you lose your mutas earlier than you should, it's gonna get ugly for you.
Hello
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
July 07 2008 09:16 GMT
#15
On July 07 2008 17:16 PH wrote:
Keep in mind...this strat relies heavily on your muta micro. If you can't keep him reasonably contained/cautious long or well enough, or you lose your mutas earlier than you should, it's gonna get ugly for you.


Yeah, and when he means it gets ugly, it means gg.
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-07 10:08:24
July 07 2008 10:07 GMT
#16
Fast ultralisk is such a good abusive strategy for low level!

As a TvZ user, my Terran macro has to be spot on or else a few ultralisk will destroy my entire army. If zerg adds defilers, the scenario will become even uglier
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
July 07 2008 12:32 GMT
#17
Focus fire on those ultras, as each ultra will be a painful loss to zerg. I think zerg is pushing going ultras on 3gas. Especially since fast ultras gets speed up later, you can do a nice medic block or/and just micro mnms.
Stuck.
Blu-Ray
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland93 Posts
July 07 2008 13:28 GMT
#18
Yes a lot of Ultralisk pushers like to do them from 2 gases. So every ultra lost is painful loss for Zerg so focusing fire on ultras is damn effective thing.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
July 07 2008 19:37 GMT
#19
On July 07 2008 17:08 Blu-Ray wrote:
I used to play 3 Hatch then gas, Lair, speed for ling - standard. When my Lair is done i get queen nest and 2 evos at same time - start upgrades and tech to Hive to get cracklings and ultras. This strat just kick ass at lower levels. When I am tired climbing ladder, i change to Zerg and do this strat on every Terran till C.


Your upgrades will be far later than those in the build outlined earlier; how do you intend to hold off the Terran mid-game push that normally comes when you have a large mutaling army if you follow the usual build? The key is having that early carapace upgrade so that your zerglings can be the shredders, not the shreddees.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
July 07 2008 20:56 GMT
#20
Savior vs Sea
http://www.teamliquid.net/replay/download.php?replay=1122
Straight to Ultra, no lurks. Watch and copy .
I have Sick Timing and UnReal Macro
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