EPT[G] Self-Improvement - Page 3
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17733 Posts
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On February 07 2008 17:00 Shado. wrote: Also... does anyone use the spacebar? I use it all the time. | ||
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JensOfSweden
Cameroon1767 Posts
Also if you by spamming mean spamming away the first minutes of the game I hardly think that's "beyond stupid". Every pro does it and it's obviously a way to warm up and get your speed going. I have no idea what people mean anymore when they talk about spamming to be honest. I am 250-300 apm, with the highest in TvZ/TvP and lowest in TvT (obviously) and I think this is almost the perfect apm-zone to be in for Terran anyways. Well 300 would be optimal I think since there is so much shit that Terran needs to do and 200 apm won't usually cut it at better levels. Anywho, I liked your article and the discussion about mindsets. | ||
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Jayson X
Switzerland2431 Posts
On February 06 2008 03:55 grobo wrote: Indeed a very good read, hopefully i can finally learn something. The two problems i know that i have are the following: 1) I have a habit of trying to do everything as fast as possible even though i don't want to and i KNOW that it's keeping me from playing properly, but it's damn near impossible to "slow" down now that i have been playing like this for so long. I get so caught up in microing my units that i completely forget about my base which results in me having zero units once the others die. 2) I'm braindead and can not for the life of me learn simple build orders, I've been watching replays and VODs since forever but trying to memorize a build seems useless for me, the second i start playing my mind goes blank and i automatically build some other shit that has NOTHING to do with the build order i was supposed to do. 1) is something people usualy do because they are afraid of loosing units and thus stare at the screen even tough they don't acctualy do something that benefits the outcome of the fight. There is usualy the pre-setup (tank formation, mines) and the correction (classic marine attack lurkers and a part of the team moves aside) and that's basicaly it. Like with every habit you want to break you have to accept the possibility of fucking up. What you might loose is a few units or games, but you'll understand the big picture, the "what happens over time". 2) I think here's where chill's improvement guide has some great information. Winning is a path of trial and error. There is no need to learn a buildorder if you don't know what's it for. When your mind goes blank and you realise you do something that you don't benefit from watch the replay and do some reverse psychology on yourself. There was a reason why you did something you did, just because it was wrong, doesn't mean you had no reason. And with the power of replays you can point out those flaws and next time you're about to do the same mistake, you're able to remind yourself that this isn't as efficient as you think. Starcraft is a fast game were you not only have to learn what's right, but more so what's wrong. | ||
Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4514 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25991 Posts
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4514 Posts
 and I believe I was afk for 2 years x.x | ||
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
On February 08 2008 02:15 ret wrote: I feel so inspired I think I will stay and I believe I was afk for 2 years x.xMake sure your reps gets saved this time, we want a ret-pack!  | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
I do remember the bit about mechanics and how it's a mindset and such but I feel like we talked about so many things that everything's blurry now. Nevertheless, I agree with everything you say  | ||
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Kage
India788 Posts
Thanks Chill. | ||
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Koldblooded
United States661 Posts
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MoOnrai
United States52 Posts
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SS[1]
United States13 Posts
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Lord_of_Chaos
Sweden372 Posts
You seem to view it like first you increase your strategical skill, which creates a demand for mechanical skill ("I know what to do, now I need to learn how to do it!"). You don't really adress what happens when you've filled this demand. The way I see it this is what is going to happen, wether you start with learning mechanics or strategy is imo irrelevant: Let's just assume we start with strategical learning, first you will increase your strategic understanding, creating a demand for mechanical skill. Basicly, you are losing games, and you know why. You just need to learn how to do what you already know. So you increase your mechanical skill (wether this is by mass gaming, conscious speed practise or micro UMS). Eventually you will increase it so that you create a demand for strategic skill. You are now playing vs better opponents and you start losing again, but now you don't know why, you need to find that out. So you increase your strategical skill (be it by self-analysing, a tutor or watching reps). Once again you're new strategical knowledge will create a demand for mechanical skill. You increase mechanical skill. You find yourself with a demand for strategical skill. and so it goes on.. Naturally it could as well have started with mechanical learning. It's a never ending cycle. And ofc it's not impossible to learn both at once either, but I find that rare. Almost always you practise one harder than the other, be it consciously or subconscously. | ||
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Niji-z
United States208 Posts
Again, thanks a lot. <3 | ||
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DevAzTaYtA
Oman2005 Posts
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Retsukage
United States1002 Posts
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DustFerret
United States60 Posts
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phase
United States399 Posts
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