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Jandos
Czech Republic928 Posts
I really dislike it, especially the middle of the map with 4 gas expansoins is weird... I usually make fast exp because distanse between starts are pretty far. But u need place ur first pilon really good because that damn rock on natural to secure place for nexus/cannons. I also think this map is very Dropship friendly... What are yours openings on this map etc ? | ||
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proTOSS[GER]
858 Posts
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Kami5909
United States157 Posts
ZvP is pretty much the same, 2 hatch into 3 hatch into mass muta usually wins, but proxy rush is really strong on this map if they build in the min only expo and put up a shield battery. No Zerg should ever die to any rush that isn't a proxy rush on this map. ZvZ is ZvZ, just like on any map. The middle expos and the size of the map make scouting a little more important, though. The other matchups, I can't really give you, because I haven't played them. Terran are very strong on this map if they don't get premature and just fe -> harassment, from what I've seen, and Toss, if they can control the center, don't have a really hard time taking down Z or T, as long as they keep their econ protected. | ||
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Night[Mare
Mexico4793 Posts
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OctoPuSs
Canada5279 Posts
 That's why you probably don't like it ^^ | ||
Insane
United States4991 Posts
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Jandos
Czech Republic928 Posts
On November 22 2005 12:53 proTOSS[GER] wrote: When will people stop complaining about the PGT MOTW an TL.Net? I'm afraid the answer is never... I complaining ? I ask for stategies in strategy forum omg.... | ||
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Travin
Sweden672 Posts
or suggestios plz write them here or pm me. It would help if you can provide with replays also and you can upload them here thank you for your time  | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
iNcontroL out | ||
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Kami5909
United States157 Posts
On November 22 2005 13:29 HnR)Insane wrote: 3 hatch before pool?? Why are you not dying to a rush -.- Unless they proxy, nobody goes fast rax on Kaiber. Have you looked at the distance between the start positions? Even if they did rally to my base, unless they have rax in the middle of the map, they don't get there in time to kill the hatch. If you micro about 8 drones until you can drop your sunk and lings come out (you get a lot of lings at once due to having 2 hatches ready at the time the spawning pool finishes), there's no way he can kill your expo, just damage it a bit. I did lose an expo to a Terran who had enough m/m to take down my sunkens and first round of lings midgame, but instead of trying to protect, I just went straight for his base with muta because my +1 had finished. He couldn't get up my ramp because of the 2 sunks and mass ling I had, and the muta raped his base. Basically, if the expo hatch is running until your spire gets up, it's nearly impossible to stop. | ||
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Insane
United States4991 Posts
On November 22 2005 18:47 Kami5909 wrote: Unless they proxy, nobody goes fast rax on Kaiber. Have you looked at the distance between the start positions? Even if they did rally to my base, unless they have rax in the middle of the map, they don't get there in time to kill the hatch. If you micro about 8 drones until you can drop your sunk and lings come out (you get a lot of lings at once due to having 2 hatches ready at the time the spawning pool finishes), there's no way he can kill your expo, just damage it a bit. I did lose an expo to a Terran who had enough m/m to take down my sunkens and first round of lings midgame, but instead of trying to protect, I just went straight for his base with muta because my +1 had finished. He couldn't get up my ramp because of the 2 sunks and mass ling I had, and the muta raped his base. Basically, if the expo hatch is running until your spire gets up, it's nearly impossible to stop. You should still die  | ||
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HappyManRun
1111 Posts
Thx insane... I was bit lazy yeah, but you were very kind to dig it out for me. | ||
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Insane
United States4991 Posts
http://www.bnetx.net/images/images/mappack/kaiber.jpg | ||
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HappyManRun
1111 Posts
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Guam3521 Posts
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LastWish
2015 Posts
Though I haven't palyed it yet I would try fast expand in PvZ. Revear+Sair could be interesting due to lack of space and enough cliffs. But generally if you mass goons + storm pushing through the small corridors you should be fine. As for PvT, taking 2nd gas expo for terran should not be easy. While as toss you should not take mineral but instead another main for 3rd expand so you limit terran drops. If u manage to get Carriers you should win. | ||
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Armand Tamzarian
Oman74 Posts
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Jandos
Czech Republic928 Posts
On November 23 2005 07:27 Armand Tamzarian wrote: i like this map a lot, too bad korean newbs will only play luna yep but all this koreans make 1fac CC on Luna and still dying to proxy DTs because no wall ;] | ||
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