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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
October 04 2011 21:07 GMT
#41
On October 04 2011 19:43 RaYhN wrote:
learn and spam 1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9a0a whenever you can.(before game starts) It helped me to control my 100+ armies pretty good. My fav is 1a2a3a4sh5sh6sh7sh8sh9sh0sh. Damn, i miss BW..


Just come back then, BW is still there... and I dare to say it will get even better after the new teams are formed.

Awesome starleagues incoming man!
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)Messer(
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland95 Posts
October 09 2011 18:51 GMT
#42
and remember to use maps from official mappack in ladder games http://www.iccup.com/files/view/iCCup_MapPack_02.html
You can find list of current ladder maps when typing /maps in battle net chat
thx bye
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
October 09 2011 23:56 GMT
#43
On October 05 2011 06:07 fabiano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 19:43 RaYhN wrote:
learn and spam 1a2a3a4a5a6a7a8a9a0a whenever you can.(before game starts) It helped me to control my 100+ armies pretty good. My fav is 1a2a3a4sh5sh6sh7sh8sh9sh0sh. Damn, i miss BW..


Just come back then, BW is still there... and I dare to say it will get even better after the new teams are formed.

Awesome starleagues incoming man!


Couldn't have said it better.
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DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
October 10 2011 03:30 GMT
#44
On October 01 2011 22:38 Kipsate wrote:
use Shift+F2-F5 to bind locations, then bind say F2 to where your production facilities are, then you can macro, you can also bind say F3 to any given location so that you can change rally points faster.



whoa whoa whoa, I always thought it was only f2 f3 and f4??? If you can use f5 my mind is blown and you just reinvented my BW experience :D
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
October 10 2011 04:18 GMT
#45
On October 10 2011 12:30 DyEnasTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2011 22:38 Kipsate wrote:
use Shift+F2-F5 to bind locations, then bind say F2 to where your production facilities are, then you can macro, you can also bind say F3 to any given location so that you can change rally points faster.



whoa whoa whoa, I always thought it was only f2 f3 and f4??? If you can use f5 my mind is blown and you just reinvented my BW experience :D

I'm pretty sure you can't use F5.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
October 10 2011 06:03 GMT
#46
nope f5 does nothing in broodwar
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Slaytilost
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands968 Posts
October 10 2011 07:54 GMT
#47
Just a quick mechanics question, since you cant hotkey multiple buildings, how do you set rally points efficiently when you have 5+ structures?

Do you actually manually select each of them, go to your designated area and right click?
Phyrigian
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 08:07:02
October 10 2011 08:06 GMT
#48
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SEA KarMa
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia452 Posts
October 10 2011 10:30 GMT
#49
After playing for a long time, you will get used to the mechanics of the game. This includes selecting no more than 12 units, only having one hotkey for one building or 12 units, and the fact that workers do not automatically rally to the minerals/gas. You will also find it being much slower (worker speed evident) but faster paced at different times. I find units die much faster in BroodWar. Or is it just me? The game pace is always intense and quick paced, as in Starcraft 2 you could tech a lot and not get punished, but in BroodWar teching quickly without making early game units in team games could get you and your team slaughtered easily. Or is that because the game has been so developed? I do not know. We will probably find out in the future. Many people complaining that their APM has lowered in SC2 have found that it is not just because of the game speed (faster is 1.33x normal speed, and that means your APM is 33% faster in real time) but in fact is because that basic mechanics require them to have a higher APM (no more than 12 units in a selection, workers have to be individually ordered to gather minerals, no more than 12 units or a building in a single hotkey, etc).
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Hossinaut
Profile Joined June 2011
United States453 Posts
October 11 2011 15:42 GMT
#50
the other obvious answer is to play the SC2:BW series of custom map/games that some kind people have put up that allow you to turn on or off BW "flaws" (control group limitations/ building selection) and allows you to use the hotkeys you want, if i recall correctly. Similarly, it looks about >9000 times better in SC2 <3
theres even shitty pathing ai :D
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
October 11 2011 21:15 GMT
#51
Hot keying units is kind of a waste imo, it's better off to square select all and a move all of them, then positiong them manually with your mouse when they're engaging the enemy. I would say only use Hotkeys when you go for Bio Terran.
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
October 12 2011 02:09 GMT
#52
On October 12 2011 06:15 ppshchik wrote:
Hot keying units is kind of a waste imo, it's better off to square select all and a move all of them, then positiong them manually with your mouse when they're engaging the enemy. I would say only use Hotkeys when you go for Bio Terran.


Terrible advice, wtf...

You send a 30 units army to attack. You go to macro in your base. You want to have instant control of your 30 units again. What do you do ?

How do you flank your opponent's army efficiently without hotkeys ? You can't synchronize all the groups properly.

How do you attack a m&m ball with lurk ling without hotkeys ?

You send your protoss army without realizing the terran had many siege tanks there. Without hotkeys to move your army it will be a field of blue goo before you can do anything.

I'm not even talking about hotkeying shuttles with reavers (oh there's a turret / scourges, lets click the minimap, manually select the shuttle, oh wait it's already dead, nvm)

...
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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
October 13 2011 01:56 GMT
#53
On October 10 2011 16:54 Slaytilost wrote:
Just a quick mechanics question, since you cant hotkey multiple buildings, how do you set rally points efficiently when you have 5+ structures?

Do you actually manually select each of them, go to your designated area and right click?


Theres 3 ways.

#1 Click each building and right click on the mini-map

#2 Hotkey all your buildings 1 to 0 and then move the camera to where you want to set the rally 1-click, 2-click, etc.

#3 The way progamers do it, and the way you should gradually learn to do: Screen save your base (normally this should already be done, screen save where you want to rally to, then flip between f2 and f3 screens while clicking on each building and rallying.

So it goes, f2->click barracks->f3->rightclick->f2 click 2nd barracks->f3->rightclick->repeat for every barracks.
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
October 13 2011 02:38 GMT
#54
Actually a lot of Zergs don't use hotkeys for their army control.

Sen for example few hotkeys for actual units and relies on his insane mouse control.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
October 13 2011 04:29 GMT
#55
On October 13 2011 11:38 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Actually a lot of Zergs don't use hotkeys for their army control.

Sen for example few hotkeys for actual units and relies on his insane mouse control.


Not everyone is sen ZNF ^^
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Snipinpanda
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1227 Posts
October 13 2011 07:03 GMT
#56
On October 13 2011 11:38 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Actually a lot of Zergs don't use hotkeys for their army control.

Sen for example few hotkeys for actual units and relies on his insane mouse control.


Zerg is the race that doesn't need to hotkey their main army aside from important units.
Protoss and Terran definitely need to hotkey their units.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 02:44:58
October 15 2011 02:43 GMT
#57
On October 13 2011 16:03 Snipinpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 11:38 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Actually a lot of Zergs don't use hotkeys for their army control.

Sen for example few hotkeys for actual units and relies on his insane mouse control.


Zerg is the race that doesn't need to hotkey their main army aside from important units.
Protoss and Terran definitely need to hotkey their units.


When you can macro better without needing to hotkey every hatch, its better to hotkey your army, your army effectiveness drops a lot otherwise, how do you dodge storms?

If you have muta ling lurker, a lot of times you can finish the game with good control, which you can't if you don't hotkey your lings.
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