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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10405 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-16 21:51:20
November 16 2015 21:48 GMT
#4621
On November 15 2015 22:22 Scarbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2015 14:28 9heart wrote:
How are progamers like Bisu, Hiya, Effort, Hero (400+apm players) able to maintain their practice without wrist problems?

My hands/wrists get sore after 3-4 games at 200apm. I do all the normal things like stretching, ergonomic desk etc


It's a matter of practice. When I started out it was really taxing to play long games but it went away after a while.

I also feel like people whose mouse sensitivity is too low get more tired because they have to move their hand more. My sensitivity is higher than center and I can go from one side of the screen to the other in a space of ~2 inches max. This way the base of my wrist stays planted and my arm does not move much.

Another key imo is following the 90 degree rule; 90 degrees from shoulder to elbow to wrist. Means you have to sit elevated relative to the table but it helps blood flow and also diminishes arm movement. Some people I know play from below the table, I have no idea how they do it but they definitely get tired faster than me.

EDIT: One more note is mouse grip and mouse weight. Heavy mouses take more effort to move, palming as opposed to clawing forces you to move your wrist more than your fingers, etc. My palm hovers over the mouse and 90% of the movements I do, I move the mouse with my thumb, ring, and pinkie finger, especially up and down. Side to side I obviously need to move my wrist a little.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Scarbo
Profile Joined January 2012
294 Posts
November 17 2015 01:30 GMT
#4622
On November 17 2015 06:48 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2015 22:22 Scarbo wrote:
On November 14 2015 14:28 9heart wrote:
How are progamers like Bisu, Hiya, Effort, Hero (400+apm players) able to maintain their practice without wrist problems?

My hands/wrists get sore after 3-4 games at 200apm. I do all the normal things like stretching, ergonomic desk etc


It's a matter of practice. When I started out it was really taxing to play long games but it went away after a while.

I also feel like people whose mouse sensitivity is too low get more tired because they have to move their hand more. My sensitivity is higher than center and I can go from one side of the screen to the other in a space of ~2 inches max. This way the base of my wrist stays planted and my arm does not move much.

Another key imo is following the 90 degree rule; 90 degrees from shoulder to elbow to wrist. Means you have to sit elevated relative to the table but it helps blood flow and also diminishes arm movement. Some people I know play from below the table, I have no idea how they do it but they definitely get tired faster than me.

EDIT: One more note is mouse grip and mouse weight. Heavy mouses take more effort to move, palming as opposed to clawing forces you to move your wrist more than your fingers, etc. My palm hovers over the mouse and 90% of the movements I do, I move the mouse with my thumb, ring, and pinkie finger, especially up and down. Side to side I obviously need to move my wrist a little.


Agreed on everything, although you don't need perfect conditions to be able to play long games. The sensitivity is a big one. I think I jumped about 100dpi up from when I started and definitely recommend.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 01:43:23
November 20 2015 00:59 GMT
#4623
Nodody can make available VODs for http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Korean_Air_Starleague_Season_2 , those are not from 2001. Disappointing to see no links even for finals. There were most greatest games. Remember
.
sunbeams are never made like me...
ArmadA[NaS]
Profile Joined January 2014
United States350 Posts
November 20 2015 15:22 GMT
#4624
Not sure what you mean. Matches from the round of 36 on are saved.
Ro36
Quarters/Semis/Finals
Scarbo
Profile Joined January 2012
294 Posts
November 21 2015 04:53 GMT
#4625
Just won my first macro TvP vs C- :D
dr0pship
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada520 Posts
November 21 2015 17:16 GMT
#4626
Why do people skip ground armor upgrades in TvT?
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
November 21 2015 19:29 GMT
#4627
Units do so much damage that the upgrades do practically nothing. Same goes with PvT for most good toss.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10405 Posts
November 22 2015 01:52 GMT
#4628
On November 22 2015 04:29 puppykiller wrote:
Units do so much damage that the upgrades do practically nothing. Same goes with PvT for most good toss.

Don't vultures only do like 5 base damage to Zealot health? I can see how armor can be beneficial here.

But yea, attack is priority in PvT.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
November 22 2015 02:38 GMT
#4629
Vultures do full damage to zealots.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
November 22 2015 03:12 GMT
#4630
Even though you can fit 4 zealots into a shuttle, they're considered 'small', so concussive damage is still 100% against their armor.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10405 Posts
November 22 2015 05:31 GMT
#4631
Oh, shit. I'm garbage lol.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
November 22 2015 18:14 GMT
#4632
On November 22 2015 14:31 Jealous wrote:
Oh, shit. I'm garbage lol.


You're not "garbage". Geez. Be nicer to yourself.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
November 23 2015 01:44 GMT
#4633
On November 21 2015 00:22 f10eqq wrote:
Not sure what you mean. Matches from the round of 36 on are saved.
Ro36
Quarters/Semis/Finals


Ah I see that they're in other menu. I used to new system where you can find links for VOD's directly after clicking into brackets. Thanks for pointing out.
sunbeams are never made like me...
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 03:42:48
November 23 2015 03:42 GMT
#4634
On November 23 2015 03:14 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2015 14:31 Jealous wrote:
Oh, shit. I'm garbage lol.


You're not "garbage". Geez. Be nicer to yourself.

+1. I really hate this mentality where if someone doesn't know something or gets something wrong, they either get dissed by others, or diss on themselves.

In the end, it's just a game, ppl. A really great game, but still.


User was warned for being hilarious
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10405 Posts
November 23 2015 05:09 GMT
#4635
On November 23 2015 12:42 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2015 03:14 ninazerg wrote:
On November 22 2015 14:31 Jealous wrote:
Oh, shit. I'm garbage lol.


You're not "garbage". Geez. Be nicer to yourself.

+1. I really hate this mentality where if someone doesn't know something or gets something wrong, they either get dissed by others, or diss on themselves.

In the end, it's just a game, ppl. A really great game, but still.



I mean, I know that at my level it doesn't matter if I know or not exactly how many shots a Zealot can take before he dies to Vultures. But I should have known before I said anything that it would take less than 18 Vulture shots to kill a Zealot's base health lol -_-; I've been playing this game for too goddamn long to have such stupid ideas.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
dr0pship
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada520 Posts
November 24 2015 00:51 GMT
#4636
where can i download Korean map versions for Fish Server?

if you dont have map, koreans ban you...not possible to DL ingame =(
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-25 01:09:59
November 24 2015 02:50 GMT
#4637
--- Nuked ---
Writer
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11892 Posts
November 24 2015 10:34 GMT
#4638
This was posted several months back by Sero

On March 13 2015 17:57 Sero wrote:
https://www.fishbattle.net/index.php?mid=community_mapdata&category=551442
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
November 25 2015 01:09 GMT
#4639
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Writer
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8937 Posts
November 25 2015 02:25 GMT
#4640
it doesnt spread faster, but it instantly spreads around the colony therefore covering more area.
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