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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-31 18:32:21
August 31 2015 18:31 GMT
#4561
Why do Broodlings have a limited lifespan?

Was there some sort of game designer fear that mass and repeated Spawn Broodling casts would create a vast and unstoppable army of Broodlings, LOL.


User was warned for being hilarious
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
September 01 2015 09:26 GMT
#4562
On September 01 2015 03:31 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Why do Broodlings have a limited lifespan?

Was there some sort of game designer fear that mass and repeated Spawn Broodling casts would create a vast and unstoppable army of Broodlings, LOL.



well actually yes, spamming broodling with a 200/200 army could make your army huge and reach the unit limit ^^
I like starcraft
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
September 02 2015 06:58 GMT
#4563
Correct me if I'm wrong but can't you cast a broodling on a broodling? Meaning you could theoretically get unlimited amounts of broodlings if you weren't attacked and could muster up that much energy? That is, if they didn't have a timer on them.

Dunno the real thought behind it though since technically Protoss is the race that can get 600 supply with mind control. Zerg can theorectically get 400 supply with 200 being in drones but the mechanics to do so is humanly impossible. Terrans are just stuck at 200.
oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
September 02 2015 13:40 GMT
#4564
On September 02 2015 15:58 G5 wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but can't you cast a broodling on a broodling? Meaning you could theoretically get unlimited amounts of broodlings if you weren't attacked and could muster up that much energy? That is, if they didn't have a timer on them.

Dunno the real thought behind it though since technically Protoss is the race that can get 600 supply with mind control. Zerg can theorectically get 400 supply with 200 being in drones but the mechanics to do so is humanly impossible. Terrans are just stuck at 200.

even 800 as protoss, if you go to 400 with the zerg part =)
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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-02 21:01:01
September 02 2015 14:20 GMT
#4565
On September 02 2015 22:40 oGoZenob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 15:58 G5 wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but can't you cast a broodling on a broodling? Meaning you could theoretically get unlimited amounts of broodlings if you weren't attacked and could muster up that much energy? That is, if they didn't have a timer on them.

Dunno the real thought behind it though since technically Protoss is the race that can get 600 supply with mind control. Zerg can theorectically get 400 supply with 200 being in drones but the mechanics to do so is humanly impossible. Terrans are just stuck at 200.

even 800 as protoss, if you go to 400 with the zerg part =)


How are you getting 400 supply as Zerg? Crazy mass extractor-trick, only done with all the cheapest buildings that don't have to be built on a geyser (evo chambers, creep colonies)?

If so, it's one of those 'theoretically possible but in reality nowhere near possible' type things.

(and does it even let you exceed 200 supply, or did Bliz think of that and block it?)



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Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3502 Posts
September 02 2015 14:33 GMT
#4566
Yes it let's you exceed 200. Protoss could technically have infinite. Your opponent could continually mass carriers and you could mass dark archon and just keep mind controlling them.
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G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2921 Posts
September 02 2015 21:30 GMT
#4567
[[Starlight]] - Yes and no Bliz didn't block it, you can exceed it

Kau - very true
CoughingHydra
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
177 Posts
September 02 2015 23:51 GMT
#4568
I haven't found a thread for general brood war questions, so I'll ask here. After I installed BW I first updated vanilla and then BW. So now the button for replays doesn't appear after I go single player -> expansion, only after single player -> original, but then i cannot watch expansion replays, only for original... I know I can create custom map and use that for watching replays but this is faster. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-05 20:19:11
September 04 2015 10:31 GMT
#4569
On September 03 2015 06:30 G5 wrote:
[[Starlight]] - Yes and no Bliz didn't block it, you can exceed it

Ah well, that's sort of cool then.

While you realistically could never ever get anything like an additional 200 supply out of it, you could maybe make 3 more ultralisks or something after you hit max supply by, say, making a dozen evo chambers quickly and then canceling them after starting the ultras.

Maybe it's good Bliz didn't block that. Makes things slightly more even vs the terrifying late game Terran 200/200 3/3 maxed-out army. Of course, can't remember anyone ever doing it.

But... can ya broodling a broodling, as someone else asked? That has fun implications, if you can.


Kau wrote:
Protoss could technically have infinite [supply]. Your opponent could continually mass carriers and you could mass dark archon and just keep mind controlling them.

Damb. Of course, you never see it, since Protoss don't build DAs.



User was warned for being hilarious
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
September 04 2015 11:16 GMT
#4570
How to use patrol micro to quickly separate air units?

I've noticed that in certain instances of using patrol micro my mutalisks will disperse, how can i replicate this? Might be an interesting way to deal with irradiate or just a tidbit of knowledge.
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Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3502 Posts
September 04 2015 15:06 GMT
#4571
On September 04 2015 19:31 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2015 06:30 G5 wrote:
[[Starlight]] - Yes and no Bliz didn't block it, you can exceed it

A, well, that's sort of cool then. While you realistically could never ever get anything like an additional 200 supply out of it, you could maybe make 3 more ultralisks or something after you hit max supply by, say, making a dozen evo chambers quickly and then canceling them after starting the ultras.

Maybe it's good Bliz didn't block that. Makes things slightly more even vs the terrifying late game Terran 200/200 3/3 maxed-out army. Of course, can't remember anyone ever doing it.

But... can ya broodling a broodling, as someone else asked? That has fun implications, if you can.


Show nested quote +
Kau wrote:
Protoss could technically have infinite [supply]. Your opponent could continually mass carriers and you could mass dark archon and just keep mind controlling them.

Damb. Of course, you never see it, since Protoss don't build DAs.





Yes you can broodling a broodling.

Protosses that aren't chalrenge don't build DAs.

For reference



It's a 2 part video, part 2 has more dark archon.
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BruceLee6783
Profile Joined March 2007
United States196 Posts
September 05 2015 15:08 GMT
#4572
On September 03 2015 08:51 CoughingHydra wrote:
I haven't found a thread for general brood war questions, so I'll ask here. After I installed BW I first updated vanilla and then BW. So now the button for replays doesn't appear after I go single player -> expansion, only after single player -> original, but then i cannot watch expansion replays, only for original... I know I can create custom map and use that for watching replays but this is faster. Does anyone know how to fix this?


That sounds very odd...are you sure that your Brood War is patched to 1.08 or higher?

If so, try uninstalling and reinstalling.
You have enemies? Good. It means you stood up for something.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11892 Posts
September 06 2015 02:21 GMT
#4573
Do reavers get revealed when they fire high ground on a target at low ground?
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-06 03:37:10
September 06 2015 03:32 GMT
#4574
On September 06 2015 11:21 c3rberUs wrote:
Do reavers get revealed when they fire high ground on a target at low ground?


yes, they are revealed when their respective scarabs explode on their low ground targets and do damage

if the scarabs don't do dmg they won't be revealed
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-22 19:46:48
September 17 2015 21:58 GMT
#4575
Q on 4- or 5-pooling on 4-player maps...

Has anyone ever seen a pro game where the early-pooling player COULDN'T find the other player's main quickly enough, and thus had his rush slowed down? I've watched a lot of 4/5-pool vods, and it just never seems to happen.

Pros don't seem to 4/5-pool as often on 4p maps as they do on 2p and 3p (for obvious reasons), but they still do so on 4p maps sometimes... and on at least some of those, the overlord can't eliminate a start position in time.

Either because the other player didn't build anything at his natural early enough (scout the right way and the nat is closer than the main and the OL can check it in time), and/or was smart enough to not worker-scout in such a way that would give himself away to an approaching OL.

The few times when a pro actually has to *guess* which start position to send the lings to, he always seems to guess right... as in the game below with Luxury 4-pooling Mind.

Is there anything Mind did to give away his position? I can't see anything. And Lux's OL doesn't have sight of Mind's main or nat in time.






Sooo... gosu game sense plus seldom 4/5-pooling on maps where this could be a prob? Luck?
Or is there a tell I'm missing/forgetting?


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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
September 18 2015 14:49 GMT
#4576
Anybody know someplace where I can watch old BW VoDs with English casting? I looked on Youtube but almost all are in Korean
¯\_(シ)_/¯
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
September 19 2015 06:32 GMT
#4577
There's a lot of stuff by klazart, moletrap, and nevake on youtube if i remember correctly. I still prefer watching the korean ones cause I think its pretty entertaining when they commentate
im deaf
DinosaurPoop
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
687 Posts
September 19 2015 11:17 GMT
#4578
On September 01 2015 18:26 oGoZenob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2015 03:31 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Why do Broodlings have a limited lifespan?

Was there some sort of game designer fear that mass and repeated Spawn Broodling casts would create a vast and unstoppable army of Broodlings, LOL.



well actually yes, spamming broodling with a 200/200 army could make your army huge and reach the unit limit ^^


reminds me of my days in WC3 just spamming skeletons with necro + graveyard lol
When cats speak, mice listen.
ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
September 21 2015 21:46 GMT
#4579
Where would I go to get a game nowadays? Haven't played since 2009. Has strategy changed a lot since then?
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6642 Posts
September 21 2015 23:08 GMT
#4580
On September 22 2015 06:46 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
Where would I go to get a game nowadays? Haven't played since 2009. Has strategy changed a lot since then?

iccup or fish if you're feeling adventurous.
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