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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
August 19 2015 09:56 GMT
#4541
How do mines work under dark swarm? Does it have a 'direct attack' that can be canceled?
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
August 19 2015 11:00 GMT
#4542
i always thought mines work normally under swarm, like they arent affected, but i could be wrong im not very clear with all the interactions in bw
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8829 Posts
August 19 2015 12:46 GMT
#4543
mines work under swarm. if they didnt zerg would roflstomp terran all day every day
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
August 19 2015 14:30 GMT
#4544
Mines attack with splash damage, which still works under Dark Swarm.
The reason why they don't work under d-web is that they cannot perform the attack because of the d-web effect.
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Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-20 09:39:23
August 20 2015 08:18 GMT
#4545
Pure splash damage (be it suicide based [Infested Terrran, Mine, Scarab], linear [Lurker, Firebat] or spell-based [Psionic Storm, Irradiate]) is not affected by dark swarm (neither by terrain-caused miss effects).

Only projectile-based non-spell attacks (both homing [Dragoon, Vulture, ...] and instant [Hydralisk, Marine, Tank, ...]) are affected.
What dark swarm actually does is move the point of impact towards the source of the attack by one tile. So if you have an Archon or sieged up Tank, you can still deal full splash damage by manually aiming one tile behind (from your Tank/Archon's point of view) your intended target (only if there is a valid alternative target there, of course).
J-dawg
Profile Joined July 2015
United States42 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-22 07:26:16
August 22 2015 07:26 GMT
#4546
Is right clicking to set rally points is as reliable as the actual r key for rallys?
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Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
August 22 2015 07:32 GMT
#4547
Yeah, use right click.
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J-dawg
Profile Joined July 2015
United States42 Posts
August 22 2015 07:53 GMT
#4548
Do dark templar work under dark swarm? I know Zealots and archons do(limited effect,How much % of damage do they do)? I know dragoons don't work under dark swarm.
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8829 Posts
August 22 2015 08:09 GMT
#4549
melee units arent affected by dark swam
archons arent melee, which is why they dont do all of their damage
J-dawg
Profile Joined July 2015
United States42 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-22 08:32:02
August 22 2015 08:26 GMT
#4550
On August 22 2015 17:09 evilfatsh1t wrote:
melee units arent affected by dark swam
archons arent melee, which is why they dont do all of their damage

Are dark templar melee units then?
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8829 Posts
August 22 2015 09:05 GMT
#4551
yes
J-dawg
Profile Joined July 2015
United States42 Posts
August 23 2015 07:42 GMT
#4552
Okay, thank you!
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B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-23 10:32:14
August 23 2015 10:32 GMT
#4553
I read that a Siege Tank's attack sprite gets shifted one hex towards itself when engaging a unit under dark swarm. Does this happen to other range units as well? For example, if a group of marines are shooting at a bunch of lurkers clumped under dark swarm?

Or is this specific to the Siege Tank?
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8829 Posts
August 23 2015 11:54 GMT
#4554
On August 20 2015 17:18 Freakling wrote:
Pure splash damage (be it suicide based [Infested Terrran, Mine, Scarab], linear [Lurker, Firebat] or spell-based [Psionic Storm, Irradiate]) is not affected by dark swarm (neither by terrain-caused miss effects).

Only projectile-based non-spell attacks (both homing [Dragoon, Vulture, ...] and instant [Hydralisk, Marine, Tank, ...]) are affected.
What dark swarm actually does is move the point of impact towards the source of the attack by one tile.
So if you have an Archon or sieged up Tank, you can still deal full splash damage by manually aiming one tile behind (from your Tank/Archon's point of view) your intended target (only if there is a valid alternative target there, of course).

Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
August 25 2015 02:43 GMT
#4555
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BruceLee6783
Profile Joined March 2007
United States196 Posts
August 25 2015 04:21 GMT
#4556
When pushing in mid/late game tvp, if you come out victorious after a large mid-map scuffle, do you gun for his main or his expos?
You have enemies? Good. It means you stood up for something.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-25 04:47:48
August 25 2015 04:32 GMT
#4557
i assume this is for korean scene?

everyone that still play often has adopted modern builds and playstyle, so technically there isnt really any more true oldschool players. you hardly ever see NaDa do the builds he did back in 2004 now. you can still play oldschool 1/2base style but not very viable at higher levels of play. so basically everyone is clumped together already

2006/2007 is probably the cutoff period when savior and bisu pioneered the metagame which everyone uses today

On August 25 2015 13:21 BruceLee6783 wrote:
When pushing in mid/late game tvp, if you come out victorious after a large mid-map scuffle, do you gun for his main or his expos?


it depends on the map and the location of your bases/expos

if you win with a large margin on FS your main army go for their nat positions(10, 1,4,7 positions), split off 3-5 tanks from your army to hit another toss expo from their ramp (the expos at the 12,3,6,9 position) which is usually undefended and cannons cannot reach those tanks

also during these times if toss has arbiters, prepare for desparate recalls. mine up your mains/expos, vessel ready for emp and have tanks ready
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
August 29 2015 00:08 GMT
#4558
Anyone know what the maximum range is for a Shield Battery to recharge units?

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XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2356 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-29 01:07:58
August 29 2015 01:06 GMT
#4559
On August 25 2015 13:21 BruceLee6783 wrote:
When pushing in mid/late game tvp, if you come out victorious after a large mid-map scuffle, do you gun for his main or his expos?


closest to your army...

you can also split a few tanks and vultures to shut down isolated expos, while ur main army pushes his main.
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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
August 31 2015 18:29 GMT
#4560
On August 25 2015 11:43 Ty2 wrote:
what counts as newschool and oldschool? Where is the cutoff? Will the newschool players of now be clumped with the oldschool players 5 years later?

Could you be more specifc?

Right now, it seems like the great divide everyone talks about is between the Kespa era and the post-Kespa era.

I guess within the Kespa era, you could talk about guys like Boxer and Nal-ra being 'old school', and Flash and Jaedong and Bisu being 'new school', but without specifics as to what you're talking about, this is just guessing.




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