EPT[G] Hive ZvZ Underused/Secret Unit - Page 2
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
On April 20 2011 06:14 FabledIntegral wrote: From all the writeups I've seen they talk about Guardians being one of the most useless units in ZvZ. Uber slow so you lose your mobility, die to scourge, and you'll get defilers before Guards anyways so a darkswarm essentially nullifies Guardians, because it's not like they can easily manuever to other locations to avoid firing into DS. Is ok because you see my Defiler use in OP. Plague Defiler and/or attach with zerglings. Or if they use swarm to drones, as you said, its good because it means no swarm for army and you can kill Defiler before consume. | ||
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xiaofan
United States513 Posts
On April 20 2011 03:38 Chill wrote: I haven't played Brood War for a year and you guys are idiots. Gr8 thread. this | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19305 Posts
this....has killed the thread. Gaurdians are only nice when u have 3 muta left and nothing else to do with em late game. | ||
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~ava
Canada379 Posts
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chongu
Malaysia2593 Posts
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
mutalisk have taken that position for years T__T | ||
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GG.NoRe
Korea (South)1051 Posts
On April 20 2011 14:32 BisuDagger wrote: this....has killed the thread. Gaurdians are only nice when u have 3 muta left and nothing else to do with em late game. On April 20 2011 17:14 ReketSomething wrote: Doh T___T mutalisk have taken that position for years T__T Im sorry but you are grossly missed my point here. Situation of the game is both within air superiority mode already and mass Mutalisk and Devourer. Obviously scourge is no use. Both are trying to transition to ground, thats why get Hydra Den and Defiler Mound and Ultralisk Cavern. But before this transition, One Z can make surprise switch while harass base - make 2-3 Guardians to faster kill drones conpared to Mutalisk. And Mutalisk will instead be used for with Devourer for Defense of Guardian or just continue control of air. Guardian are slow but make them in opponent base while harass. Imagine this, you harass base, of course he has Spore, thats why you reach Hive ZvZ. So even if you have more forces to destroy Building defense, his Devorer and Mutalisk come. During this time you can make Guardians to concentrate on drones while Mutalisk and Devoruer do air control or fight army. This is period of time when Z is really short of gas and every drone counts. You could sacrifice 2-3 50/100 in exchange so he has weak economy and disrupt tech to ground or him to make more Mutalisk. I hope you understand my English. On April 20 2011 15:29 ~ava wrote: I thought the thread was interesting, good job OP for trying your best with your 2nd language. Thank you. Im really sorry I hope my roomate is here to fix my English before I post. Just please understand. Thanks a lot. | ||
c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
I couldn't help but agree with some of the points that other posters in the thread. Guardians are really vulnerable and slow, although I'm not eliminating the possibility that it might not work. It might work as flying reavers?! XD | ||
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shinjin
United States398 Posts
teach me korean~ ㅋㅋㅋ too bad like 99% of zvzs never reach hive anyways ) : | ||
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Sajiki
Germany522 Posts
still sneaky drones can be srs problem  | ||
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