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what does Queen's ensnare actually do?

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myaccountmessup
Profile Joined February 2004
Canada396 Posts
June 02 2004 04:11 GMT
#1
what does Queen's ensnare actually do?
I know it slows units down... but does it slow units attacking rate too?
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 02 2004 04:17 GMT
#2
It slows attack rating on every unit except Tank and Goliath.

Only a few units are affected in a large way though, Marines, Zealots, Zerglings, and Corsairs get the worst of it.
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myaccountmessup
Profile Joined February 2004
Canada396 Posts
June 02 2004 04:19 GMT
#3
So it also affects Archon's speed and attack rating too?
Cuz Im hopeful, yes I am, hopeful for today, Take this music and use it. Let it take you away, And be hopeful (hopeful) and hell make a way. I know it aint easy but thats okay. Lets be hopeful!
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 02 2004 04:20 GMT
#4
Yep.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28614 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-02 09:14:28
June 02 2004 07:00 GMT
#5
it halves movement on all units without speed upgrades
ensnared units with speed upgrades get the same speed they would have without ensnare and speed upgrade.

(thus the unit that's most affected movement wise is the overlord. )
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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
June 02 2004 07:54 GMT
#6
But the one you'll love the most are the slow marines
NoNameLoser
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1508 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-02 09:34:25
June 02 2004 07:58 GMT
#7
Also its important to note that the attack rate is slowed down very little and using it for that exact purpose is close to not effective at all i.e. snaring stimmed m/m and attacking with hidras thinking their attack rate is slowed down to regular.

However ensnaring interceptors and then attacking carriers is a whole different story.
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-06-03 00:13:44
June 02 2004 08:10 GMT
#8
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amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
June 02 2004 08:31 GMT
#9
Here's a thread from the Tsunami forum regarding the reduced attack rates ensnare causes: http://pub227.ezboard.com/ftsunamisstrategyforumfrm1.showMessage?topicID=222.topic
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28614 Posts
June 02 2004 09:15 GMT
#10
yeah I fucked up that sentence
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Countdown
Profile Joined February 2004
1217 Posts
June 02 2004 10:29 GMT
#11
mutas/snare is decent zvt on vanilla, someone beat nada with it on bw, but I wouldn't try it T_T
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 02 2004 10:50 GMT
#12
On June 02 2004 16:00 Liquid`Drone wrote:

(thus the unit that's most affected movement wise is the overlord. )


Well aren't you just Mister Knowledgeable
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myaccountmessup
Profile Joined February 2004
Canada396 Posts
June 03 2004 16:50 GMT
#13
thx ^^
Cuz Im hopeful, yes I am, hopeful for today, Take this music and use it. Let it take you away, And be hopeful (hopeful) and hell make a way. I know it aint easy but thats okay. Lets be hopeful!
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
June 03 2004 16:58 GMT
#14
On June 02 2004 19:29 Countdown wrote:
mutas/snare is decent zvt on vanilla, someone beat nada with it on bw, but I wouldn't try it T_T


muta/plague is the shit.
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
June 03 2004 17:24 GMT
#15
On June 02 2004 16:00 Liquid`Drone wrote:
it halves movement on all units without speed upgrades
ensnared units with speed upgrades get the same speed they would have without ensnare and speed upgrade.

(thus the unit that's most affected movement wise is the overlord. )


no the overlord (non speed upgrade) is the least affected

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why so 진지해?
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
June 03 2004 18:36 GMT
#16
On June 04 2004 01:58 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
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On June 02 2004 19:29 Countdown wrote:
mutas/snare is decent zvt on vanilla, someone beat nada with it on bw, but I wouldn't try it T_T


muta/plague is the shit.


Plaguing muta's ZvZ is underrated.
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ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
June 03 2004 18:44 GMT
#17
On June 04 2004 03:36 iD.Twisted wrote:
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On June 04 2004 01:58 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
On June 02 2004 19:29 Countdown wrote:
mutas/snare is decent zvt on vanilla, someone beat nada with it on bw, but I wouldn't try it T_T


muta/plague is the shit.


Plaguing muta's ZvZ is underrated.


:o!

Plague its like the scariest anti zerg spell, but if you can get it in zvz you are already dead or going hydra ..
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z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
June 03 2004 18:47 GMT
#18
Queen/4 hatch hydra rape zvp on lt if the circumstances are right.

broodling temps -> attack move ->gg!

Probe beat me with that,it was hacktastic.
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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
June 03 2004 19:29 GMT
#19
hahaha hacktastic rofl
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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
June 03 2004 19:30 GMT
#20
On June 04 2004 03:44 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2004 03:36 iD.Twisted wrote:
On June 04 2004 01:58 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
On June 02 2004 19:29 Countdown wrote:
mutas/snare is decent zvt on vanilla, someone beat nada with it on bw, but I wouldn't try it T_T


muta/plague is the shit.


Plaguing muta's ZvZ is underrated.


:o!

Plague its like the scariest anti zerg spell, but if you can get it in zvz you are already dead or going hydra ..


Nah late game zvz where you tech to hive to get devourers, you can get defiler too. But people never use it.
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FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
June 03 2004 21:43 GMT
#21
feedback queens -_-
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
June 04 2004 02:23 GMT
#22
An ensnared ovie is slower than an ensnared reaver?

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JoeUser
Profile Joined April 2004
United States684 Posts
June 04 2004 03:35 GMT
#23
Actually I have seen the late game defilers ZvZ. I had like ~30 mutuas, and I was expecting a mutua-mutua battle, then he comes in with 2 defilers, a couple of hydras, and some scourge and totally owned me. I have respect for the defiler.
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Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
June 04 2004 07:05 GMT
#24
Hah I found a really cool 1.09 replay of mine where I use queens and defilers in a ZvT ; )

Lemme upload it:

http://home.quicknet.nl/mw/prive/m.bakker/Oem)TwistedvOem)Limeveg.rep
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33279 Posts
June 04 2004 16:28 GMT
#25
there was a cute strat in an old starleague

isles, toss going 2 port sair air control

zerg going for massive hydralisk drop

zerg distracts corsairs all the way across the map, then ensnares them all to hell

123828932 overlords fly to toss main :D

zerg lost the game though T_T
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amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
June 04 2004 16:46 GMT
#26
Good story, bad ending
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tom liu
Profile Joined May 2004
35 Posts
June 05 2004 03:06 GMT
#27
That sounds like one of the strats off sclegacy.com, which are all written by noobs and usually involve something like this:


"one of my fav stratz is building 20 hydras and then sending a drone to the enemy base and having them chase it acxross the map and then ua ttack with 20 hydras and then you win KEKEKEKEKEKEK LOL ROLFMAO, GG NEXT TIME"

So my analysis is : Horrible Strat, Horrible Story, Horrible Ending.
The End Justifies The Means
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