EPTThis goes on for a while and a few drones occasionally, but... somehow I never ever have enough units to actually kill the shuttle+rvrs.
So, when I'm facing rvrs it's mostly, shuttle, drop, micro rvr in-and-out, kill units, GG.
Ways to prevent this?
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Fedaykin
Netherlands2003 Posts
This goes on for a while and a few drones occasionally, but... somehow I never ever have enough units to actually kill the shuttle+rvrs. So, when I'm facing rvrs it's mostly, shuttle, drop, micro rvr in-and-out, kill units, GG. Ways to prevent this? | ||
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
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Fedaykin
Netherlands2003 Posts
Anyhow, I haven't had any 1 rvr drop as of late, so don't know if it's double robo or not, probably not, I'm just slow. Another thing might be, how the hell am I suposed to expect/anticipate for reavers, I'm the one who is supposed to be using insects, not the protoss  | ||
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JoeUser
United States684 Posts
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FreeZEternal
Korea (South)3396 Posts
On May 28 2004 08:59 Fedaykin wrote: Reaver range > sunken range... Anyhow, I haven't had any 1 rvr drop as of late, so don't know if it's double robo or not, probably not, I'm just slow. Another thing might be, how the hell am I suposed to expect/anticipate for reavers, I'm the one who is supposed to be using insects, not the protoss sunken is for slow him down -_-;;instead of a direct attack to drones-_-; | ||
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Dang-it
United States557 Posts
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iD.Surv
Belgium827 Posts
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GoSexyPerli
United States1072 Posts
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NoNameLoser
United States1508 Posts
Nothing better then watching a toss suicide a shuttle with reavers into a defended base with bunch of drones only to see them burrow. | ||
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GoSexyPerli
United States1072 Posts
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Fedaykin
Netherlands2003 Posts
On May 28 2004 21:20 NoNameLoser wrote: i really like tsunami's primary counter = burrow, never failed me. Nothing better then watching a toss suicide a shuttle with reavers into a defended base with bunch of drones only to see them burrow. that would indeed be SWEET  | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
most satisfying thing in zvp -_-; | ||
Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
oh wait. i only play VS zerg not WITh zerg | ||
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JoeUser
United States684 Posts
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tom liu
35 Posts
1. Scourge 2. Lurkers 3. Mutalisks(I prefer these since I usually Muta against Toss anyways) | ||
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ToT)Strafe(
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tom liu
35 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
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comabreaded
United States2166 Posts
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GoSexyPerli
United States1072 Posts
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Ress
Sweden47 Posts
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Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
On May 30 2004 18:25 GoSexyPerli wrote: yeah but he wont be able to massacure your drones. Yeah 1 lurker outranges the reaver by far! You make it sound as if a lurker has the range and damage of a siege tank. | ||
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iD.Surv
Belgium827 Posts
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GoSexyPerli
United States1072 Posts
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Typhoon
196 Posts
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GoSexyPerli
United States1072 Posts
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JoeUser
United States684 Posts
Burrow + 2 scourge + mutualisk is PERFECT counter for reaver drop. Scourge kill shuttle. If he droppped the reavers before his shuttle blew, burrow drones and send your harrassing mutuas to kill the roaming shuttles. Seriously. Perfect! Burrow + 2 scourge + mutualisk = perfect counter to reav drop! | ||
mrmin123
Korea (South)2971 Posts
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Dave[9]
United States2365 Posts
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lastprobe
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bigmuff
Netherlands14 Posts
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Muhweli
Finland5328 Posts
On May 30 2004 15:58 ToT)Strafe( wrote: Lurkers vs reavers is the most stupid thing you can do. I second that! There aren't many strats worse than lurks vs rvr | ||
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Muhweli
Finland5328 Posts
If you can stop toss from expanding, all the better. Remember to scout the whole map so he won't get any hidden exps (DAMN THEM TO HELL). There's pretty much no point in attacking vs a reavercannoning pure defence toss, rather play defensive and expand. Mass hydra drops might work though, but it might be pretty risky since reavers are often accompanied by corsairs plus he can pretty easily prepare hence the observers. Playing safely and defensively yet as aggressive as possible so that you don't sac troops is prolly best. I still hate playing vs reavers though. Mutahydra to greater spire is the main tagline anyways =) | ||
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Muhweli
Finland5328 Posts
On May 31 2004 12:56 mrmin123 wrote: do scarabs not damage units that burrow if the toss can't see them, even if it was fired at them? or what? no splash? im not really familiar with the game mechanics Splash pops the drones up from the ground yes t.t | ||
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GroT
Belgium3003 Posts
just scout better, there's my advice | ||
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NonYold
United States2814 Posts
besides, if i were zerg i'd be more afraid of mid-game reavers with speed shuttle than early game slow shuttle reaver bullshit =/ | ||
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NonYold
United States2814 Posts
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VdP]TwistedEcho
United Kingdom847 Posts
Fly into P base to scout. Usually you can tell what they are up to, late game you'll have speed. If a P opens reaver though, you should have enough time to see it with lord (although lord should die to a goon at some point during its scouting mission). If you see/think reaver, go muta. | ||
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SwEeTaZnPiE
United States21 Posts
some micro... seriously just take some hydraz and kill the shuttle first then micro some lings to kick the crap out of the reaver while ur drone are safely tucked away at ur expo. | ||
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Remmus(Cfr
Russian Federation207 Posts
On May 29 2004 16:37 JoeUser wrote: Still, the best counter for reavers is 2 scourge. uhahah =)) Muta owns reavers so badly , just scout properly to see what toss is doing | ||
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
With mutas you can fight off any reaver/dt drop, and with lurkers you can fight off any mass zeal/temp he tries. You are also in a better position to macro hard while skimping defences. And if he still follows up with goon/reaver/sair, just make mass mass mutas and scourge, also try to keep him from expanding. Burrowing lurks or lings there is what I usually do. 2 base zerg beats 1 base goon/reaver any day. Overrall I found this approach vs protoss tech the most effective. | ||
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mazaGhal
Sweden73 Posts
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yeehaw
San Marino888 Posts
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mazaGhal
Sweden73 Posts
Some1 who has an shedule/statistic over units range ?? will be ery greatfull... | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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mazaGhal
Sweden73 Posts
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
Against the sair/dt rush you get scourges. Against Reaver, you get mutas. Against fast expo you get harrassment value and force cannons. | ||
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2ndFoundation
Germany212 Posts
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pooper-scooper
United States3108 Posts
Sometimes you get them before he unloads too. Then you are really in good shape. | ||
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ahk-gosu
Korea (South)2099 Posts
get scourge. or if your micro is awesome get hydras. | ||
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eccentric
Mozambique18 Posts
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RuGbUg
United States2347 Posts
if you're dying to reaver early game you should scout better or get a spire earlier. | ||
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eccentric
Mozambique18 Posts
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UNiMEDiA
United States25 Posts
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BroLLy
Australia11 Posts
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Aa_Zerg
Norway6 Posts
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Rogal
Poland11 Posts
For ravers is best good micro with hydras | ||
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