• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:24
CEST 10:24
KST 17:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event18
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris30Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!13Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax A Eulogy for the Six Pool Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away 2v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Monday Nights Weeklies
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below
Brood War
General
Joined effort [ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off No Rain in ASL20? BW General Discussion Flash On His 2010 "God" Form, Mind Games, vs JD
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro24 Group F [ASL20] Ro24 Group E [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] CSLAN Review and CSLPRO Reimagined!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The year 2050 European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment"
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Breaking the Meta: Non-Stand…
TrAiDoS
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2013 users

[Q] Tired from playing? - Page 2

Forum Index > Brood War Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 05 2009 23:37 GMT
#21
The only way I slow down late game is if there is nothing to do really which sounds weird but yea I normally don't slow down unless I am just being very lazy
When I think of something else, something will go here
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 00:09:58
December 06 2009 00:09 GMT
#22
On December 05 2009 20:45 Adeny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2009 16:49 Hehlol wrote:
On December 05 2009 13:22 BlackMesa wrote:
Does anyone else just get really tired when playing. Like il be doing fine but mid-late game ill just get tired from the macroing and i won't be able to keep up and miss like a lot of things. Is this normal and will my macro improve with mre games?


I hate to be the one to say this, but if you're getting tired from macroing (which is just pressing keys on the keyboard) then you probably need to get up. If you're getting tired from pressing keys on the keyboard, you need to begin moving your body.


Try tapping at full capacity, unless you've practice games like stepmania you'll get tired after 4 seconds.

I don't think it's just the physical strain of pressing the keys that's being discussed, but the mental strain of a long game. Hasn't anyone taken a really long exam that they've felt tired after? In a Starcraft game, you have to stay alert to hundreds of different visual and audial stimuli for long periods of time. Obviously a really long session of massgaming is going to tire you out.

Of course, definitely physical exercise is going to help train that, but so is more practice. The more of the actions of the game that go into muscle memory, the less they strain you as you play.
Moderator
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 00:15:18
December 06 2009 00:13 GMT
#23
On December 06 2009 09:09 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2009 20:45 Adeny wrote:
On December 05 2009 16:49 Hehlol wrote:
On December 05 2009 13:22 BlackMesa wrote:
Does anyone else just get really tired when playing. Like il be doing fine but mid-late game ill just get tired from the macroing and i won't be able to keep up and miss like a lot of things. Is this normal and will my macro improve with mre games?


I hate to be the one to say this, but if you're getting tired from macroing (which is just pressing keys on the keyboard) then you probably need to get up. If you're getting tired from pressing keys on the keyboard, you need to begin moving your body.


Try tapping at full capacity, unless you've practice games like stepmania you'll get tired after 4 seconds.

I don't think it's just the physical strain of pressing the keys that's being discussed, but the mental strain of a long game. Hasn't anyone taken a really long exam that they've felt tired after? In a Starcraft game, you have to stay alert to hundreds of different visual and audial stimuli for long periods of time. Obviously a really long session of massgaming is going to tire you out.

Of course, definitely physical exercise is going to help train that, but so is more practice. The more of the actions of the game that go into muscle memory, the less they strain you as you play.


You're wrong, my reply was specifically adressing the guy who said you need to go take a jog (wtf you don't use your legs to macro) if you can't macro. I don't think we disagree.

Edit: To clarify you are wrong about this part: "I don't think it's just the physical strain of pressing the keys that's being discussed". Other than this we're not disagreeing.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 06 2009 00:18 GMT
#24
On December 06 2009 09:13 Adeny wrote:
You're wrong, my reply was specifically adressing the guy who said you need to go take a jog (wtf you don't use your legs to macro) if you can't macro. I don't think we disagree.

Edit: To clarify you are wrong about this part: "I don't think it's just the physical strain of pressing the keys that's being discussed". Other than this we're not disagreeing.

Ah, I misinterpreted what you meant (and what he meant too, I guess).
Moderator
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
December 06 2009 00:20 GMT
#25
if u play regularly this cold hands after long games, bad senses, pain in fingers, heartbeat will go away
sc is a challanging game physically too, it takes much practice just like anything else
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 00:53:41
December 06 2009 00:53 GMT
#26
my hands get numb after long games. But then thats what you get for having your computer next to a window in Scotland...

Actually, come to think of it, my hands are numb all the time
My. Copy. Is. Here.
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
December 06 2009 02:06 GMT
#27
For me its not because of how long the game has been going, but because i haven't practiced enough late game. I could spam all day and not slow down, but when the decisions you're making aren't second nature, that time spent thinking about them will slow you down.
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
December 06 2009 02:24 GMT
#28
My concentration can get worse during a long game, but thats not a physical thing more about mindset.
If you have to ask, you don't know.
Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
December 06 2009 02:51 GMT
#29
On December 05 2009 14:01 Boblion wrote:
Usually after a long game, i have "cold" hands and sometimes i'm even shaking. Eh maybe it is because it is winter...

That happens to me too except it can be from the start to finish :X
Dota 3hard5me
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
December 06 2009 13:58 GMT
#30
Depends on my mood actually heh... some games I just don't care and start slacking off big time.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
December 06 2009 14:56 GMT
#31
Sometimes during a long game my right arm will fall asleep, it's so weird.
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
Rainbow
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States249 Posts
December 06 2009 17:14 GMT
#32
Yes, it's normal when you start to get tired or start missing things, simply because early and mid game is easier to manage than late game sometimes. I played a few games last week and I was even sweating in my armpits, but that was in midgame, so maybe my armpits are out of shape?


The macro will come as you play, If you have many, many (like 12K+?) minerals and alot (like 9K+?)but don't make 20 gates if you have only 13 minerals patches and only 1 gas that's not depleted, instead make like 12 or something and spend the money smartly and slowly; and especially try to get another expansion rather than just build build build.
When I did stuff like building 25 production buildings that I always threw my army away by suiciding all my units into his base in hopes of finishing the game, and ran out of money.
Artifex
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Belgium189 Posts
December 06 2009 17:44 GMT
#33
Don't forget that mental strain can have a real physical impact too, for instance in a tight situation during play you might be contracting the muscles of certain body parts without you knowing, leading to real physical fatigue.
Fear. Fear that the zerg are expanding all over the map and there's nothing you can do. The Swarm. Your doom. Now is the time to panic. The terran and protoss are trying to survive. The Zerg are trying to obliterate them. - Stane
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
December 06 2009 19:47 GMT
#34
On December 06 2009 08:06 Kingfisher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2009 14:01 Boblion wrote:
Usually after a long game, i have "cold" hands and sometimes i'm even shaking. Eh maybe it is because it is winter...

I get this every time I play.



Yeah me too, although not just playin SC but in general. SC makes it worse. For me its poor blood circulation to my fingers.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
December 06 2009 21:50 GMT
#35
I think it has a lot to do with experience for mid and late gameplay. Everyone is well-practiced with their builds for the first few minutes of the game, but once the shit hits the fan your routine is gone and you may lose focus and let your multitask slip. My apm usually drops at least 20% after ten minutes, not including early game spam (then it would be about 60% :p).

If your hands/wrists are actually hurting after games (not sure if that's what you were implying), it is probably because your motions are too tense or frantic. You may be trying to forcefully perform an action faster than you should, and doing this repetitively --> RSI. When you become comfortable with the pace of multitask, your hands will move a lot more smoothly. Consider adjusting mouse settings if it means easier wrist motions.

I find I get multiple tasks accomplished more quickly and efficiently when I focus on what my goals are before executing them.

Practice will obviously make perfect.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 06 2009 21:54 GMT
#36
no i always make mistakes
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
December 06 2009 21:58 GMT
#37
As a good analogy consider Guitar Hero, which requires equal (if not more) finger and wrist motion as Starcraft.

When you first play a really hard song, you frantically strum to hit many notes and your fingers are flailing wildly on the buttons because it is too fast for you to read, process, and execute. This type of hand motion REALLY hurts after a 5 minute song. The same song played by a skilled GH player though doesn't hurt, because the player knows exactly how he wants to move his hands seconds in advance.

The challenged player is trying to play catchup and has very little time to interpret new notes, while an experienced player has his hands ready and anticipating the next notes, giving more time to rest and plan out future actions.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
December 06 2009 22:00 GMT
#38
No time to get tired.. T_T need to 3t4t5v6v7v8v9s0s~ 1a2a.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
December 06 2009 23:29 GMT
#39
I don't think I get tired...usually 30 minute games tend to be the limit for my games...so by the time that it happens, I'm either losing, or I'm winning so I just let myself go for those few minutes before endgame.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
sixduck
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States301 Posts
December 06 2009 23:50 GMT
#40
Its quite the opposite for me, I am a little tired in the beginning and early mid game but once I get the ball rolling then I'm good for macroing/microing for the rest of the game.
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 36m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2404
Horang2 1925
Stork 436
Tasteless 243
Larva 238
Pusan 214
Backho 193
ggaemo 154
PianO 128
Nal_rA 117
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 86
soO 58
TY 50
ToSsGirL 39
Sharp 20
Sacsri 16
ajuk12(nOOB) 5
ivOry 5
Dota 2
Fuzer 134
NeuroSwarm72
XcaliburYe71
BananaSlamJamma53
XaKoH 0
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K412
Other Games
summit1g8319
singsing1028
ceh9536
WinterStarcraft442
SortOf154
Happy148
trigger5
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick607
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH352
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt687
• Lourlo686
• Jankos526
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
1h 36m
hero vs Alone
Royal vs Barracks
Replay Cast
15h 36m
The PondCast
1d 1h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 2h
Clem vs Classic
herO vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
1d 15h
LiuLi Cup
2 days
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Cure vs Rogue
Classic vs HeRoMaRinE
Cosmonarchy
2 days
OyAji vs Sziky
Sziky vs WolFix
WolFix vs OyAji
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Hawk vs Team Bonyth
SC Evo League
3 days
TaeJa vs Cure
Rogue vs threepoint
ByuN vs Creator
MaNa vs Classic
[ Show More ]
Maestros of the Game
3 days
ShoWTimE vs Cham
GuMiho vs Ryung
Zoun vs Spirit
Rogue vs MaNa
[BSL 2025] Weekly
3 days
SC Evo League
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
SHIN vs Creator
Astrea vs Lambo
Bunny vs SKillous
HeRoMaRinE vs TriGGeR
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Team Dewalt vs Team Sziky
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSLAN 3
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
Acropolis #4 - TS1
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
EC S1
Sisters' Call Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.