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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 05 2009 23:37 GMT
#21
The only way I slow down late game is if there is nothing to do really which sounds weird but yea I normally don't slow down unless I am just being very lazy
When I think of something else, something will go here
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 00:09:58
December 06 2009 00:09 GMT
#22
On December 05 2009 20:45 Adeny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2009 16:49 Hehlol wrote:
On December 05 2009 13:22 BlackMesa wrote:
Does anyone else just get really tired when playing. Like il be doing fine but mid-late game ill just get tired from the macroing and i won't be able to keep up and miss like a lot of things. Is this normal and will my macro improve with mre games?


I hate to be the one to say this, but if you're getting tired from macroing (which is just pressing keys on the keyboard) then you probably need to get up. If you're getting tired from pressing keys on the keyboard, you need to begin moving your body.


Try tapping at full capacity, unless you've practice games like stepmania you'll get tired after 4 seconds.

I don't think it's just the physical strain of pressing the keys that's being discussed, but the mental strain of a long game. Hasn't anyone taken a really long exam that they've felt tired after? In a Starcraft game, you have to stay alert to hundreds of different visual and audial stimuli for long periods of time. Obviously a really long session of massgaming is going to tire you out.

Of course, definitely physical exercise is going to help train that, but so is more practice. The more of the actions of the game that go into muscle memory, the less they strain you as you play.
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Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 00:15:18
December 06 2009 00:13 GMT
#23
On December 06 2009 09:09 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2009 20:45 Adeny wrote:
On December 05 2009 16:49 Hehlol wrote:
On December 05 2009 13:22 BlackMesa wrote:
Does anyone else just get really tired when playing. Like il be doing fine but mid-late game ill just get tired from the macroing and i won't be able to keep up and miss like a lot of things. Is this normal and will my macro improve with mre games?


I hate to be the one to say this, but if you're getting tired from macroing (which is just pressing keys on the keyboard) then you probably need to get up. If you're getting tired from pressing keys on the keyboard, you need to begin moving your body.


Try tapping at full capacity, unless you've practice games like stepmania you'll get tired after 4 seconds.

I don't think it's just the physical strain of pressing the keys that's being discussed, but the mental strain of a long game. Hasn't anyone taken a really long exam that they've felt tired after? In a Starcraft game, you have to stay alert to hundreds of different visual and audial stimuli for long periods of time. Obviously a really long session of massgaming is going to tire you out.

Of course, definitely physical exercise is going to help train that, but so is more practice. The more of the actions of the game that go into muscle memory, the less they strain you as you play.


You're wrong, my reply was specifically adressing the guy who said you need to go take a jog (wtf you don't use your legs to macro) if you can't macro. I don't think we disagree.

Edit: To clarify you are wrong about this part: "I don't think it's just the physical strain of pressing the keys that's being discussed". Other than this we're not disagreeing.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 06 2009 00:18 GMT
#24
On December 06 2009 09:13 Adeny wrote:
You're wrong, my reply was specifically adressing the guy who said you need to go take a jog (wtf you don't use your legs to macro) if you can't macro. I don't think we disagree.

Edit: To clarify you are wrong about this part: "I don't think it's just the physical strain of pressing the keys that's being discussed". Other than this we're not disagreeing.

Ah, I misinterpreted what you meant (and what he meant too, I guess).
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MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
December 06 2009 00:20 GMT
#25
if u play regularly this cold hands after long games, bad senses, pain in fingers, heartbeat will go away
sc is a challanging game physically too, it takes much practice just like anything else
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Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-06 00:53:41
December 06 2009 00:53 GMT
#26
my hands get numb after long games. But then thats what you get for having your computer next to a window in Scotland...

Actually, come to think of it, my hands are numb all the time
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0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
December 06 2009 02:06 GMT
#27
For me its not because of how long the game has been going, but because i haven't practiced enough late game. I could spam all day and not slow down, but when the decisions you're making aren't second nature, that time spent thinking about them will slow you down.
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JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
December 06 2009 02:24 GMT
#28
My concentration can get worse during a long game, but thats not a physical thing more about mindset.
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Nub4ever
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1981 Posts
December 06 2009 02:51 GMT
#29
On December 05 2009 14:01 Boblion wrote:
Usually after a long game, i have "cold" hands and sometimes i'm even shaking. Eh maybe it is because it is winter...

That happens to me too except it can be from the start to finish :X
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Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
December 06 2009 13:58 GMT
#30
Depends on my mood actually heh... some games I just don't care and start slacking off big time.
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sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
December 06 2009 14:56 GMT
#31
Sometimes during a long game my right arm will fall asleep, it's so weird.
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Rainbow
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States249 Posts
December 06 2009 17:14 GMT
#32
Yes, it's normal when you start to get tired or start missing things, simply because early and mid game is easier to manage than late game sometimes. I played a few games last week and I was even sweating in my armpits, but that was in midgame, so maybe my armpits are out of shape?


The macro will come as you play, If you have many, many (like 12K+?) minerals and alot (like 9K+?)but don't make 20 gates if you have only 13 minerals patches and only 1 gas that's not depleted, instead make like 12 or something and spend the money smartly and slowly; and especially try to get another expansion rather than just build build build.
When I did stuff like building 25 production buildings that I always threw my army away by suiciding all my units into his base in hopes of finishing the game, and ran out of money.
Artifex
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Belgium189 Posts
December 06 2009 17:44 GMT
#33
Don't forget that mental strain can have a real physical impact too, for instance in a tight situation during play you might be contracting the muscles of certain body parts without you knowing, leading to real physical fatigue.
Fear. Fear that the zerg are expanding all over the map and there's nothing you can do. The Swarm. Your doom. Now is the time to panic. The terran and protoss are trying to survive. The Zerg are trying to obliterate them. - Stane
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3720 Posts
December 06 2009 19:47 GMT
#34
On December 06 2009 08:06 Kingfisher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2009 14:01 Boblion wrote:
Usually after a long game, i have "cold" hands and sometimes i'm even shaking. Eh maybe it is because it is winter...

I get this every time I play.



Yeah me too, although not just playin SC but in general. SC makes it worse. For me its poor blood circulation to my fingers.
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mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
December 06 2009 21:50 GMT
#35
I think it has a lot to do with experience for mid and late gameplay. Everyone is well-practiced with their builds for the first few minutes of the game, but once the shit hits the fan your routine is gone and you may lose focus and let your multitask slip. My apm usually drops at least 20% after ten minutes, not including early game spam (then it would be about 60% :p).

If your hands/wrists are actually hurting after games (not sure if that's what you were implying), it is probably because your motions are too tense or frantic. You may be trying to forcefully perform an action faster than you should, and doing this repetitively --> RSI. When you become comfortable with the pace of multitask, your hands will move a lot more smoothly. Consider adjusting mouse settings if it means easier wrist motions.

I find I get multiple tasks accomplished more quickly and efficiently when I focus on what my goals are before executing them.

Practice will obviously make perfect.
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 06 2009 21:54 GMT
#36
no i always make mistakes
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mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
December 06 2009 21:58 GMT
#37
As a good analogy consider Guitar Hero, which requires equal (if not more) finger and wrist motion as Starcraft.

When you first play a really hard song, you frantically strum to hit many notes and your fingers are flailing wildly on the buttons because it is too fast for you to read, process, and execute. This type of hand motion REALLY hurts after a 5 minute song. The same song played by a skilled GH player though doesn't hurt, because the player knows exactly how he wants to move his hands seconds in advance.

The challenged player is trying to play catchup and has very little time to interpret new notes, while an experienced player has his hands ready and anticipating the next notes, giving more time to rest and plan out future actions.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
December 06 2009 22:00 GMT
#38
No time to get tired.. T_T need to 3t4t5v6v7v8v9s0s~ 1a2a.
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
December 06 2009 23:29 GMT
#39
I don't think I get tired...usually 30 minute games tend to be the limit for my games...so by the time that it happens, I'm either losing, or I'm winning so I just let myself go for those few minutes before endgame.
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sixduck
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States301 Posts
December 06 2009 23:50 GMT
#40
Its quite the opposite for me, I am a little tired in the beginning and early mid game but once I get the ball rolling then I'm good for macroing/microing for the rest of the game.
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