EPTI think he'll fare quite well doing that though, random T will of course be the best, but his P used to be good too so, he'll just have to pray he doesn't end up with ZvT, ZvZ =]
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I think he'll fare quite well doing that though, random T will of course be the best, but his P used to be good too so, he'll just have to pray he doesn't end up with ZvT, ZvZ =] | ||
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On December 09 2003 19:18 Liquid`Drone wrote: bah I dont think randoming is all that hard=] random in bnet is different from random in OGN  | ||
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But, it hasn't been long at all since he has chosen random so he will get d by all the terrans, zergs, and protoss players if he goes random and gets zerg. random on paradoxxx is ly. | ||
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to be honest a random bnet/wgtour player probably has more practice against random than pro koreans, as most of them even refuse to play vs random. and I think beast is correct. my terran (in particulary tvz/tvt) is pretty weak compared to my other matchups but I can still win a lot random tvz/random tvt simply with some luck one game only strategy. and when I random zerg vs protoss I have such an advantage compared to picked zerg vs protoss.. and you don't really have to practice three times as much or anything like that, because when you play tvz you also practice zvt. the matchups where random players are bad are normally tvt/pvp/zvz. (and I doubt elky can touch any of the koreans at zvz, so he should just pray he doesn't get that matchup. =] ) | ||
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On December 09 2003 20:49 Liquid`Drone wrote: why is random in bnet different from random in ogn? to be honest a random bnet/wgtour player probably has more practice against random than pro koreans, as most of them even refuse to play vs random. and I think beast is correct. my terran (in particulary tvz/tvt) is pretty weak compared to my other matchups but I can still win a lot random tvz/random tvt simply with some luck one game only strategy. and when I random zerg vs protoss I have such an advantage compared to picked zerg vs protoss.. and you don't really have to practice three times as much or anything like that, because when you play tvz you also practice zvt. the matchups where random players are bad are normally tvt/pvp/zvz. (and I doubt elky can touch any of the koreans at zvz, so he should just pray he doesn't get that matchup. =] ) don't forget ogn players usually practice _ a lot_ for a specific match. that means they make a lot of games just for one match up on one map. and i'm sure these guys usually have a couple of strats completely worked out before the game and mostly new strats because old strats are easy to beat. so if you're actually going to play random, u will indeed need (maybe not exactly) 3 times more practice. ur opponent will more or less have the same problem but imagine u lose all your matches due to that fact and all of them lose only one game. ^^ i'm pretty sure there's a reason why there are no real random players in ogn anymore. when chrh was still playing random, the game was still a lot less 'known' and creativity was more important then practice i guess (grrr..., boxer). | ||
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cause he's UNABLE to use _any_ build orders that requires him to deviate from his normal builds before he has scouted his opponent. this is something you as a random player can take pretty big advantage of. like if you random into zerg vs a protoss player and it's a big tourney, you can fast expand pretty damn safely, because no protoss is gonna go 9/10 or anything like that when he doesn't know the race of his opponent. so they end up having to practice both pvz and pv random zerg and pvt and pv random t and pvp and pv random p. cheesing from random usually isn't that smart though, because people tend to defend against that. what you want to do is make some build order that gives you a lot of units at some spesific point of the game where he's likely to not have a lot of units because he used a safe build. (that is for the matchups you're not used to playing yourself. ) | ||
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On December 09 2003 21:09 Liquid`Drone wrote: asta it's a lot worse for your opponent cause he's UNABLE to use _any_ build orders that requires him to deviate from his normal builds before he has scouted his opponent. this is something you as a random player can take pretty big advantage of. like if you random into zerg vs a protoss player and it's a big tourney, you can fast expand pretty damn safely, because no protoss is gonna go 9/10 or anything like that when he doesn't know the race of his opponent. so they end up having to practice both pvz and pv random zerg and pvt and pv random t and pvp and pv random p. cheesing from random usually isn't that smart though, because people tend to defend against that. what you want to do is make some build order that gives you a lot of units at some spesific point of the game where he's likely to not have a lot of units because he used a safe build. (that is for the matchups you're not used to playing yourself. ) matchups like that will also bring new strategies to the game. | ||
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