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Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
December 10 2003 05:27 GMT
#61
Its not so much about practice lately , but about better strategy IMO...And i dont think zvz is that hard to learn .Even if he cant learn 1 good zvz strat on the map he can always 4 pool and get a pretty sure win .On isle he should just pick P vs Z .
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Funktion
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia156 Posts
December 10 2003 05:35 GMT
#62
On December 10 2003 12:57 FeeLdAfuRy wrote:
Elky is faking. He's going to make his opponent practise all their matchups and he'll just pick Terran when he gets in. You can't trust a Frenchy.


If they've practised all the matchups then him picking Terran won't matter...
Wuzzle Woozle?
KaXe
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden19 Posts
December 10 2003 06:03 GMT
#63
On December 10 2003 14:27 Beast_Bg wrote:
Its not so much about practice lately , but about better strategy IMO...And i dont think zvz is that hard to learn .Even if he cant learn 1 good zvz strat on the map he can always 4 pool and get a pretty sure win .On isle he should just pick P vs Z .


yupp latepick P in OGN would be gosu
yes
luminosity_
Profile Joined September 2003
Canada378 Posts
December 10 2003 06:16 GMT
#64
Elky should learn terran before he tries other races
Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
December 10 2003 06:24 GMT
#65
Once you announce your race you can not change it. so he can not pick, he must stay random no matter what.

I have all the inside goss! but i have taken a vow of silence.

beginning NOW!
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
Dealer
Profile Joined January 2003
Sweden1368 Posts
December 10 2003 06:26 GMT
#66
On December 10 2003 14:27 Beast_Bg wrote:
Its not so much about practice lately , but about better strategy IMO...And i dont think zvz is that hard to learn .Even if he cant learn 1 good zvz strat on the map he can always 4 pool and get a pretty sure win .On isle he should just pick P vs Z .


uh? =(

4 pool is certainly not a "pretty sure win", besides i believe z v z to be the hardest matchup of them all to practice if you are aiming at OGN level. The koreans have played an insane amount of games in that matchup.
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Taguchi
Profile Joined February 2003
Greece1575 Posts
December 10 2003 07:21 GMT
#67
On December 10 2003 05:45 Emlary wrote:
ElkY/NaDa on Namja Iyagi
Junwi/ElkY on Nostalgia
ElkY/Rainbow on Paradoxxx 2

seeing his group match-ups
i'd like to see the last game vs rainbow on the LOVELY islands map^^


Hmm didn't know about that, looks bad already for elky, facing terran on namja iyagi(imagine he randoms toss on close positions against nada!), zerg on nostalgia and toss on paradoxxx2. If he needs a bit of luck to advance in ogn, this does not look like a fair start
Great minds might think alike, but fastest hands rule the day~
X)Benny
Profile Joined October 2002
France1270 Posts
December 10 2003 08:30 GMT
#68
On December 10 2003 15:24 Legionnaire wrote:
Once you announce your race you can not change it. so he can not pick, he must stay random no matter what.

I have all the inside goss! but i have taken a vow of silence.

Please tell, please tell!

More seriously
-> Leg: in last OGN junwi picked PvT on Paradoxxx, isn't it? Why was this allowed? Because he announced it beforehand?

-> Drone: as a rZ, do you send your ovie to scout? as a random in general, do you scout as if you picked your race, or do you delay your scouting to avoid telling your oponent your race before he finds out by himself?
iloveoo
Profile Joined April 2003
634 Posts
December 10 2003 08:30 GMT
#69
elky will go down.....................badly
imo 0-3 looks about 95% certain
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-10 08:40:13
December 10 2003 08:39 GMT
#70
On December 10 2003 15:24 Legionnaire wrote:
Once you announce your race you can not change it. so he can not pick, he must stay random no matter what.


You've got to announce it for the whole season or just for the single match (-> race picking)?
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Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-10 08:43:09
December 10 2003 08:41 GMT
#71
i am pretty sure he announced 2 weeks in advance of his game or something. You have to tell OGN as well as the opposing team manager (i think) so it gives the opponent time to practice (but they can say NO if it is not the race you announced at the start of the season). If you do not announce you can still do it if the manager says yes before the game, but noone in their right mind would.

In the game July vs Giyom, july practiced for ages for TvP on paradoxx but forgot to inform AMD manager so it wasn't allowed. So he had 1 day of ZvP practice, then Giyom accepted him to go T before the game (master of pvt islands~!) that is as far as i know the only time it has been accepted without massive prior notice.

carnac: at the start you announce for the entire season, if your a race abuser... i mean picker... it shows up as "p or t" etc. (like in the case of bluek)
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
HnR)hT
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3468 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-12-10 08:47:25
December 10 2003 08:46 GMT
#72
Giyom also got raped that game iirc.

I'd say elky's odds of advancing from his group are around 1:8 against.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28854 Posts
December 10 2003 08:49 GMT
#73
benny I kinda scout as normal- on islands I don't actually send my lord into his base until it's too late for him to change his build though.
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
December 10 2003 09:03 GMT
#74
i'll sum up what the smart people said here so the rest of you (i.e. not smart) have a chance to read it for the first time:

what elky's random does is force the opponents to play it safe builds that can't be cheesed. if someone rushes instead, they might kill elky but they don't even know what race he is so it's risky.

elky gains an economical advantage by assuming his opponents play safe builds instead of having to play a safer build himself. if elky doesn't do this, he's taking a risk to catch someone off guard who maybe expects elky will play for the economical advantage a little too much.
Legionnaire
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia4514 Posts
December 10 2003 09:09 GMT
#75
but of course once they know what race he is they have years of experience of countering that race to work from.

if elky gets z he has 2 weeks of experience, if he gets p he gets outdated protoss to use, if he gets t then he has a big advantage
My hope is one day stupid people will feel the same pain when they talk, as the pain the rest of us feel when we hear them. Twitter: @Legionnaire_au
_liquid_
Profile Joined November 2003
France98 Posts
December 10 2003 09:11 GMT
#76
omfg Leg we gotta know a bit more, I claim our right of informations as Elky's cheerleaders.
J ai perdu au contact des hommes la fracheur de mes nvroses
_liquid_
Profile Joined November 2003
France98 Posts
December 10 2003 09:16 GMT
#77
And let me remind you that all that stops Elky from raping everyone is this famous "eat-my-butt 'til I die" ass all those korean girls seem to have. It obviously impairs BW practice.
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Zob
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany226 Posts
December 10 2003 13:18 GMT
#78
To be true, I don#t think, elky chances will raise or fall with this random thingie, well imho they were low already before.
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
December 10 2003 13:31 GMT
#79
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Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
December 10 2003 13:38 GMT
#80
On December 10 2003 03:45 no1important wrote:
elky's doomed. Wont get enough practice to keep up with progamers. Look at ChRh, he couldnt handle playing 9 matchups because he couldnt keep up with the other pro's


wtf no

he raped with his random, it was only when he started being pure terran that he really slumped
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