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[Guide/Video] Basic Mutalisk Micro

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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
June 08 2009 02:12 GMT
#1
Because my stream keeps getting denied for verification, this time because they say I need permission from the owner to show the videos(from youtube) on my stream while I am offline I've decided to upload of video of mine! Since I didn't have any videos recorded, I figured I'd just make a new one. While I'm at it, I may as well try to help out you Z muta newbies for things you might not know.
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This is a short tutorial on some mutalisk micro, particularly for ZvT and ZvZ.

Included is:
Hold position vs Right click
Abusing mutalisks(that's right, you have to beat your mutalisks parents!)
Chinese Triangle
Patrol micro
Cloning scourge
and a few other misc. things


+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah I know I messed up on a few things, but I didn't want to re-record it because of that.
+ Show Spoiler +
Miscounted a few things, a bit of fail micro vs scourge, etc
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
patochaos
Profile Joined March 2009
Argentina160 Posts
June 08 2009 02:32 GMT
#2
Thanks for the effort man, but I had to quit at 2 mins because the game sound and music was too loud compared to your voice. Also I'm not a native english speaker, so that made it even harder.

My suggestion for the next video is to lower the ingame sound
viva peron
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
June 08 2009 02:34 GMT
#3
On June 08 2009 11:32 patochaos wrote:
Thanks for the effort man, but I had to quit at 2 mins because the game sound and music was too loud compared to your voice. Also I'm not a native english speaker, so that made it even harder.

My suggestion for the next video is to lower the ingame sound

Hmm I notice that too. I'll make sure I change that in the future.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Guilty
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada812 Posts
June 08 2009 02:42 GMT
#4
nice helpful video, real shame the ingame noise is so loud, makes it painful. =(
"How hard could it be?" -J. Clarkson
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
June 08 2009 02:44 GMT
#5
god that overlord's voice lmfao.
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Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
June 08 2009 03:17 GMT
#6
Isn't this the wrong forum?
Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
June 08 2009 03:39 GMT
#7
Nice tutorial, thanks.
But you really should have turned off sc music/sound lol
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foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
June 08 2009 04:16 GMT
#8
Cool tx
觀過斯知仁矣.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
June 08 2009 04:24 GMT
#9
So I'm *GNNAAAARRP* getting two upgra*WLAAAWWWP*des to make this more rea*WULLLAAAAAAP*listic.
Retvrn to Forvms
knightpraetor
Profile Joined October 2008
United States180 Posts
June 08 2009 18:06 GMT
#10
why doesn't anyone use attack move for muta micro? is it bad for some reason? I mean right clicking might miss the rine, so shouldn't you attack click the rine?
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2751 Posts
June 08 2009 18:10 GMT
#11
It was either that hold results in a quicker attack than attack-move, or that the pattern in which way the attacks of the mutalisks hit their target differs. But the last thing might have been soething from goonmicro.
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
June 08 2009 18:20 GMT
#12
Yes when microing goons, hold will spread fire (I guess each goon individually attacks whatever's closest).
rkarhu
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Finland570 Posts
June 08 2009 19:01 GMT
#13
On June 08 2009 13:24 Chrispy wrote:
So I'm *GNNAAAARRP* getting two upgra*WLAAAWWWP*des to make this more rea*WULLLAAAAAAP*listic.


LoL. And true.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
June 08 2009 19:21 GMT
#14
must watch when I get home.
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meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
June 08 2009 19:55 GMT
#15
On June 08 2009 13:24 Chrispy wrote:
So I'm *GNNAAAARRP* getting two upgra*WLAAAWWWP*des to make this more rea*WULLLAAAAAAP*listic.

lawl.. yeah, helpful video if you don't know how to do these things, I guess.. but yuo should really turn down the game sound next time.

Good effort.
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
June 08 2009 20:11 GMT
#16
On June 08 2009 13:24 Chrispy wrote:
So I'm *GNNAAAARRP* getting two upgra*WLAAAWWWP*des to make this more rea*WULLLAAAAAAP*listic.

This is funny because it is true.
knightpraetor
Profile Joined October 2008
United States180 Posts
June 09 2009 01:51 GMT
#17
no one seems to understand my question; i already know that hold is faster than an attack command..

but isn't attack move + clicking on an enemy unit considered the same as right clicking on the enemy unit?

and if so, isn't that much safer so you don't mismicro too close to the enemy?
theonemephisto
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States409 Posts
June 09 2009 02:21 GMT
#18
On June 09 2009 10:51 knightpraetor wrote:
no one seems to understand my question; i already know that hold is faster than an attack command..

but isn't attack move + clicking on an enemy unit considered the same as right clicking on the enemy unit?

and if so, isn't that much safer so you don't mismicro too close to the enemy?

I think the idea is that you're going to be spending pretty much all your attention on microing the mutas either way, so hopefully you'll catch any misclicks very quickly and by right-clicking you're saving an extra keystroke every attack.
r1fl3m4n
Profile Joined March 2009
United States28 Posts
June 09 2009 03:05 GMT
#19
On June 09 2009 10:51 knightpraetor wrote:
no one seems to understand my question; i already know that hold is faster than an attack command..

but isn't attack move + clicking on an enemy unit considered the same as right clicking on the enemy unit?

and if so, isn't that much safer so you don't mismicro too close to the enemy?


The problem with that is that the mutas will slowdown to attack whatever is closest to it (Assuming if you missed the click)

And if the mutas slow down, they have to speed up to get the hell out of there. There lies you problem.

With right click, even if you miss, you mutas are going at full speed, so you can change directions and gtfo quicker. When you're attack + clicking, a miss click is going to slow down you mutas.

At least that's why I think attack+click is worse.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
June 09 2009 03:21 GMT
#20
On June 09 2009 12:05 r1fl3m4n wrote:
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On June 09 2009 10:51 knightpraetor wrote:
no one seems to understand my question; i already know that hold is faster than an attack command..

but isn't attack move + clicking on an enemy unit considered the same as right clicking on the enemy unit?

and if so, isn't that much safer so you don't mismicro too close to the enemy?


The problem with that is that the mutas will slowdown to attack whatever is closest to it (Assuming if you missed the click)

And if the mutas slow down, they have to speed up to get the hell out of there. There lies you problem.

With right click, even if you miss, you mutas are going at full speed, so you can change directions and gtfo quicker. When you're attack + clicking, a miss click is going to slow down you mutas.

At least that's why I think attack+click is worse.

Also, if you are trying to target fire SCV's or something and you have even 1 marine shooting at your mutas, they will stop and attack that marine specifically. Hold position works in this case because your mutas don't slow down, and they will still shoot that SCV if it is infront of them, rather than a single marine shooting at your mutas to the side of them. In some cases, attack-move works, yes, but it doesn't really give you anything hold position doesn't. You can't misclick with hold position either.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Ozenlord
Profile Joined July 2009
United States7 Posts
July 28 2009 18:42 GMT
#21
Thank you the video was great i have no muta micro and this really help.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
July 28 2009 19:00 GMT
#22
On June 09 2009 12:21 Grobyc wrote:
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On June 09 2009 12:05 r1fl3m4n wrote:
On June 09 2009 10:51 knightpraetor wrote:
no one seems to understand my question; i already know that hold is faster than an attack command..

but isn't attack move + clicking on an enemy unit considered the same as right clicking on the enemy unit?

and if so, isn't that much safer so you don't mismicro too close to the enemy?


The problem with that is that the mutas will slowdown to attack whatever is closest to it (Assuming if you missed the click)

And if the mutas slow down, they have to speed up to get the hell out of there. There lies you problem.

With right click, even if you miss, you mutas are going at full speed, so you can change directions and gtfo quicker. When you're attack + clicking, a miss click is going to slow down you mutas.

At least that's why I think attack+click is worse.

Also, if you are trying to target fire SCV's or something and you have even 1 marine shooting at your mutas, they will stop and attack that marine specifically. Hold position works in this case because your mutas don't slow down, and they will still shoot that SCV if it is infront of them, rather than a single marine shooting at your mutas to the side of them. In some cases, attack-move works, yes, but it doesn't really give you anything hold position doesn't. You can't misclick with hold position either.

Whhaaa? I thought you only use hold for attack if you have a lot of muta.... Because they will attack all different targets. You use attack click when you want to force them to attack one target because you only have like 6 muta or something and you want a one hit kill. I'm good at muta micro, but I have no idea why someone would favour hold position micro unless they had 10 or 11 against some marines. In any other situation (like against scvs) it's just terrible.
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knightpraetor
Profile Joined October 2008
United States180 Posts
August 30 2009 06:03 GMT
#23
could someone explain to me whether it is proper when focus firing to move behind the unit you are aiming at or whether in front works just as well..the problem is that in front you may slow down before you reach that spot... should i practice clicking behind the unit? it seems more difficult to do at times. Anyways i was curious if there are any disadvantages /advantages to either way.

in case that was unclear I am questioning whether the move command before the right click target command should be between the enemy and you or behind the enemy ; regardless the turn needs to come immediately after the fire order; i just get random slow downs when aiming in front of the enemy because when you near the end of your movement in a move command your mutas slow down
Shadeye
Profile Joined March 2009
Australia75 Posts
September 09 2009 05:25 GMT
#24
Thanks so much, its realy hard ot lern this will, just practice i guess
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