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djcube
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States985 Posts
June 03 2011 00:02 GMT
#381
Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but is there some fix or mod to fix like the sluggish mouse cursor while playing in windowed-mode?
retRed
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States63 Posts
June 03 2011 00:38 GMT
#382
wow windows 7 still freezes, the colors are better but it still freezes.
I enjoy eating delicious things, I want to eat something sweet but fresh yet filling
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
June 03 2011 02:18 GMT
#383
There aren't any successful fixes.

only work arounds, and theories, and some random's posting crap that only works for them coz they run a minimal setup,
massiv3attack
Profile Joined August 2009
Poland7 Posts
June 17 2011 17:53 GMT
#384
[/QUOTE]

That hotfix does nothing for DDraw, All it does is remove 1 possible reason for a freeze where d2d/d3d (WLM2011 or firefox 4) is used in apps , it does nothing for mixing gdi applications. (Firefox 3/ WLM2009)[/QUOTE]

Seeing your deep commitment to that matter on many forums I'm sorry to say that you're wrong. I don't know why - but it DOES HELP. No freezes after this fix at all. I've tested it on 4 machines already. Maybe check it out yourself. I'm not the first one who says it worked. Maybe that fix does something more. Whatever it does - it fixed my BW for good.


You have seen nothing! Dissecting a dead Zerg in a lab is one thing unleashing them on men is another!
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
June 30 2011 13:51 GMT
#385
Maybe stop being a noob, its already been applied on my system months before you even spotted it and IT DOESN'T FIX ANYTHING.
rm
Profile Joined August 2011
2 Posts
August 24 2011 07:09 GMT
#386
Here it is the fix for brood and starcraft on Windows 7:
http://www.2shared.com/file/6KseyP7v/ddhack.html


This should fix color problem and freeze problem. This ddraw.dll is a modified version of cnc-ddraw hack from here:
http://hifi.iki.fi/cnc-ddraw/

The cnc--ddraw had some issues with keyboard mapping and some mouse freeze in sc. I fixed them, rebuild, and here it is.

Have fun!
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9517 Posts
August 24 2011 10:36 GMT
#387
On August 24 2011 16:09 rm wrote:
Here it is the fix for brood and starcraft on Windows 7:
http://www.2shared.com/file/6KseyP7v/ddhack.html


This should fix color problem and freeze problem. This ddraw.dll is a modified version of cnc-ddraw hack from here:
http://hifi.iki.fi/cnc-ddraw/

The cnc--ddraw had some issues with keyboard mapping and some mouse freeze in sc. I fixed them, rebuild, and here it is.

Have fun!

Looks promising, need to test it.

Btw, I see you called it ddhack. You have any affiliation with https://code.google.com/p/ddhack/ ?
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
rm
Profile Joined August 2011
2 Posts
August 24 2011 11:19 GMT
#388
No. I used cnc-ddraw. http://hifi.iki.fi/cnc-ddraw/

I know about ddhack10 too, but cnc-ddraw is better. It has support for GDI, not only for OpenGl, as ddhack10 does. ddhack10 is very sluggish in starcraft because of opengl backend.

The fix I uploaded here is configured to work on GDI, because opengl is sluggish on cnc-ddraw too. I don't know why..
squall leonhart
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia44 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 14:07:52
August 24 2011 13:42 GMT
#389
I know about ddhack10 too, but cnc-ddraw is better. It has support for GDI, not only for OpenGl, as ddhack10 does. ddhack10 is very sluggish in starcraft because of opengl backend.

FALSE.
OpenGL has nothing to do with it.

The game expects a gameupdate based framerate, which can go as high as 300fps with enough screen updates. and having vsync enabled @ 60hz causes the game to only appear sluggish for this very reason.

cncddraw uses a different update system which doesn't have the same sluggishness, but at the expense of high cpu usage.

There is no performant difference between opengl and gdi with cncddraw, any problems you've found are caused by your local system setup and hardware capabilities.

The mouse freeze was due to the mouse offset hack which was enabled by default. in essence all you've done is changed the default configuration and claimed to have fixed stuff.
WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 07:12:38
August 25 2011 07:12 GMT
#390
On August 24 2011 22:42 squall leonhart wrote:
The mouse freeze was due to the mouse offset hack which was enabled by default. in essence all you've done is changed the default configuration and claimed to have fixed stuff.


Have you even tried it? It fixes the key mappings, aka you can do control groups. With raw cnc-draw you can't use control groups.

I tried to use it in wine, and it doesn't reset the screen resolution if you close broodwar (with few other fixable problems), so unfortunately I still have to do a WinXP dual boot.
small dicks have great firepower
dosbox
Profile Joined May 2011
27 Posts
August 25 2011 07:53 GMT
#391
@rm:
i've already tweaked cnc-ddraw here (3 months ago or so):
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=229044
it should have a safer exit i.e. reset resolution on exit. (?), enable all keys..etc
---
then again the real problem is the bnet interface rendering, which is a massive involvement.
but also...even if a "ddraw.dll" like solution solves the bnet problem (and everything else) it will still remain, "banned" from the official servers.

this right here (which WhuazGoodJaggah started) might be a good temporary alternative (where w-mode is not sluggish):
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=10634026

Frigo
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary1023 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 09:59:39
August 25 2011 09:56 GMT
#392
Hotkeys and mouse scroll stopped working under cnc-draw. Is it just me or someone else encountered this problem as well?

Edit: lol nevermind, apparently I am unable to read the post above
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stablol
Profile Joined July 2011
United States82 Posts
August 25 2011 11:14 GMT
#393
same shit happens to me
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Heimatloser
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany1494 Posts
August 25 2011 11:18 GMT
#394
why dont you just use windows xp mode?
its a free giveaway from microsoft for windows 7, windows xp on a virtual machine.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx
All what KT currently needs is a Zerg and a second Terran
WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
August 25 2011 13:02 GMT
#395
On August 25 2011 20:18 Heimatloser wrote:
why dont you just use windows xp mode?
its a free giveaway from microsoft for windows 7, windows xp on a virtual machine.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx


Not everyone has Win7 Professional/Enterprise/Ultimate

Many have Home or Starter and those can not profit from this free VM
small dicks have great firepower
agarangu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile274 Posts
August 25 2011 13:59 GMT
#396
Install Windows XP and your problems will be solved.
What's a quote anyway?
WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
August 25 2011 14:00 GMT
#397
On August 25 2011 22:59 agarangu wrote:
Install Windows XP and your problems will be solved.


you find the drivers for me?
small dicks have great firepower
MetalSlug
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany443 Posts
August 25 2011 14:38 GMT
#398
1. pick a virtual Machine programm of your choice, preferably a free one.
2. set it up
3. install Xp and starcraft on your VM
4. all your problems are fixed
MKP | Maru | Nada | Boxer | Supernova | Keen
agarangu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 21:24:21
August 25 2011 20:59 GMT
#399
On August 25 2011 23:00 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 22:59 agarangu wrote:
Install Windows XP and your problems will be solved.


you find the drivers for me?


Sure. I'm smart enough to know how to use google.

edit: This is how I play SC BW online.

1. I installed debian with just the base system, then install what I need.
2. Installed a VM with xP in virtualbox. Now, since the linux kernel includes most drivers, I don't need to look for anything, just install a package of virtualbox.
3. Install SC BW.
4. Play online.

You can change your default screen resolution to 640x480, so that when you open the game in the VM, it is actually in full screen mode. I do it before starting the X server, every time i want to play.
What's a quote anyway?
MetalSlug
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany443 Posts
August 26 2011 07:12 GMT
#400
On August 26 2011 05:59 agarangu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 23:00 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
On August 25 2011 22:59 agarangu wrote:
Install Windows XP and your problems will be solved.


you find the drivers for me?


Sure. I'm smart enough to know how to use google.

edit: This is how I play SC BW online.

1. I installed debian with just the base system, then install what I need.
2. Installed a VM with xP in virtualbox. Now, since the linux kernel includes most drivers, I don't need to look for anything, just install a package of virtualbox.
3. Install SC BW.
4. Play online.

You can change your default screen resolution to 640x480, so that when you open the game in the VM, it is actually in full screen mode. I do it before starting the X server, every time i want to play.


This.

i find it interresting that people can sit in front of their computer all day and play but dont bother to find out how to make stuff work or figure out workarounds.
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