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Wasabi
United States3085 Posts
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doktorLucifer
United States855 Posts
When I first started watching progaming, I was always under the impression that there were gamers who'd harass at several locations while multitasking perfectly (macroing from all production buildings while controlling several harassing units at different locations.) I thought this was supposed to be common, but I don't ever remember seeing multi-location harass until I saw Baby's play, but that's not to say that I'm not impressed, since I didn't see this type of play from anyone else. Having failed at multi-location harass myself, I know how hard it can be. Are there any other vods which show this type of multitasking? Are there any progamers that are able to harass in several locations while maintaining production/management that I somehow don't know about? | ||
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hideo
Canada1641 Posts
consistently hides his tank count, and gives misinformation to observers rather than sniping them | ||
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Delerium
United States324 Posts
On April 21 2009 23:52 JWD wrote: I just watched this series, and I have a really different take than you, Delirium: JangBi played like garbage. ... I think this series came down to many uncharacteristic mistakes from JangBi. In general JB's play in this series was frantic and impatient. ... Frankly, JangBi looked like he didn't prepare at all for this match, and further that he didn't much care about its outcome. He didn't play like his usual self, right down to bullshit like losing his scouting probe to an SCV in game 3 (I mean...come on). I didn't quote your entire post, JWD, but I want you to know that I value all of your opinions. The portions of your post that I left in the quote above are what I want to zero in on: it really seems like the pressure on KeSPA from OGN, MBC, and IEG is crushing GOM. If Jangbi didn't prepare, it's because he didn't care, it wasn't important to him. This could play out in one of two ways that I can imagine: 1) Since it's an individual tournament, the star players might dislike having their fans seeing them drop games to far inferior opponents, OR 2) [more likely] the players and teams who are the losers in this now less-than-prestigious tournament will spin the results as being due to the inferior quality of the tournament, resulting in a net loss of respect for GOM and its tournament. GOM will become a place for rookies to prove themselves to each other but not to the stars. (The four teams that flat-out refused to participate don't even need to worry about any of this!) p.s. There's been some confusion, so I want to specify: I'm NOT 404.Delirium, the guy who started this thread, I'm a different guy, with a differently spelled name (delirium is the actual word, while Delerium is a band) | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
On April 27 2009 00:20 Delerium wrote: 2) [more likely] the players and teams who are the losers in this now less-than-prestigious tournament will spin the results as being due to the inferior quality of the tournament, resulting in a net loss of respect for GOM and its tournament. GOM will become a place for rookies to prove themselves to each other but not to the stars. (The four teams that flat-out refused to participate don't even need to worry about any of this!) I don't think this will happen. It's not the place of the players or teams to denounce a perfectly legitimate tournament like GOM, and certainly outside the (well-adhered to) rules of common Korean decency (players don't make excuses for their losses, and certainly wouldn't go as far as to criticize an entire tournament). In a sense GOM already is a place for rookies to improve themselves...the participating teams even reached into their B-teams to fill the Ro128 slots, and the few seeded players clearly do not prepare specifically for the tournament. But yes, I do agree that the reason we are seeing so many upsets in GOM and the reason teams chose not to participate is that, on top of PL, MSL, and OSL, it makes practice schedules too tight. In SC scheduling at a certain point less is more, because without enough practice time it's not possible to perform in any league. Teams and players are wise to try to focus on the more prestigious events. | ||
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minus_human
4784 Posts
On April 25 2009 18:00 Thesecretaznman wrote: Are there any other vods which show this type of multitasking? Are there any progamers that are able to harass in several locations while maintaining production/management that I somehow don't know about? Nada dropped his Zerg opponent in FOUR (yes that's 4) places SIMULTANEOUSLY, in a televised match. That's 1 dropship to each of 4 expos/mains, and he stimmed and attacked with all his marines, even microing against lurkers in one place of two. If I remember correctly it was an island map, I don't remember the name of the game though... iirc it was a game changing move, nada's last hope ^^ | ||
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The Raurosaur
198 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17726 Posts
On April 28 2009 03:27 minus_human wrote: Nada dropped his Zerg opponent in FOUR (yes that's 4) places SIMULTANEOUSLY, in a televised match. That's 1 dropship to each of 4 expos/mains, and he stimmed and attacked with all his marines, even microing against lurkers in one place of two. If I remember correctly it was an island map, I don't remember the name of the game though... iirc it was a game changing move, nada's last hope ^^ i think that was a replay on luna. I think its on tl rep section. Nada vs jy. | ||
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meltdown
Sweden40 Posts
On April 28 2009 03:27 minus_human wrote: Nada dropped his Zerg opponent in FOUR (yes that's 4) places SIMULTANEOUSLY, in a televised match. That's 1 dropship to each of 4 expos/mains, and he stimmed and attacked with all his marines, even microing against lurkers in one place of two. If I remember correctly it was an island map, I don't remember the name of the game though... iirc it was a game changing move, nada's last hope ^^ Are you sure you're not thinking of this game with Boxer? | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On April 28 2009 03:27 minus_human wrote: Nada dropped his Zerg opponent in FOUR (yes that's 4) places SIMULTANEOUSLY, in a televised match. That's 1 dropship to each of 4 expos/mains, and he stimmed and attacked with all his marines, even microing against lurkers in one place of two. If I remember correctly it was an island map, I don't remember the name of the game though... iirc it was a game changing move, nada's last hope ^^ Wait.. that was on Luna? The move is in the movie "Nada - Master of puppets" by Spitfire | ||
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[DUF]MethodMan
Germany1716 Posts
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On April 29 2009 00:38 [DUF]MethodMan wrote: As mentioned above, Boxer on 815 against Chojja Nada has done a "4 drops at the same time"-thing also. It wasn't as pimp because he dmatrixed them all and it was total late game but whatever ^^ | ||
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minus_human
4784 Posts
On April 29 2009 00:38 [DUF]MethodMan wrote: As mentioned above, Boxer on 815 against Chojja No it wasn't. That is a different game, I am 100% sure. Nada did it in late game, and btw, iirc, boxer although displaying mind-numbing control and tactics did not drop 4 places AT ONCE. Rather he kept dropping one or two locations in quick fashion, giving chojja no time to breathe/regroup/understand WTF was going on. It was pimp, but Nada did it in a different game. It MAY have been on Luna, but I'm not sure | ||
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StalkerSC
Canada378 Posts
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PH
United States6173 Posts
On April 27 2009 00:20 Delerium wrote: I didn't quote your entire post, JWD, but I want you to know that I value all of your opinions. The portions of your post that I left in the quote above are what I want to zero in on: it really seems like the pressure on KeSPA from OGN, MBC, and IEG is crushing GOM. If Jangbi didn't prepare, it's because he didn't care, it wasn't important to him. This could play out in one of two ways that I can imagine: 1) Since it's an individual tournament, the star players might dislike having their fans seeing them drop games to far inferior opponents, OR 2) [more likely] the players and teams who are the losers in this now less-than-prestigious tournament will spin the results as being due to the inferior quality of the tournament, resulting in a net loss of respect for GOM and its tournament. GOM will become a place for rookies to prove themselves to each other but not to the stars. (The four teams that flat-out refused to participate don't even need to worry about any of this!) p.s. There's been some confusion, so I want to specify: I'm NOT 404.Delirium, the guy who started this thread, I'm a different guy, with a differently spelled name (delirium is the actual word, while Delerium is a band) Doubtful. GOM offers a significant prize pool...it will always be competitive because of that. I do remember players saying that GOM had a bit more of a relaxed atmosphere, but still, no one is going to toss games on it just because they don't think it's important enough. My bet is Jangbi simply underestimated his opponent and was a bit off balance that day. Baby, however, was on. | ||
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