During the MSL Survivor Tournament last week, there was a dispute between the STX Soul assistant coach Jo Gyu Baek and a KeSPA referee.
Apparently the KeSPA referee said that Jo Gyu Baek and himself had a physical altercation, started by the coach. Gyu Baek said that there was no fight at all, it was just a bunch of swearing go back and forth.
On April 09 2009 22:06 Ancestral wrote: Yes kespa does seem to kind of suck, I'm glad that even different teams will watch out for each other when faced with ridiculous BS from kespa.
I do so wish they'd spell "Hite" as "Hait" though. After laboriously memorizing Romanization rules I always read it as "hee-tay."
Oh shit is it not "hee-tay"? Thanks Only seen new name romanised, assumed it was like 히데 or something.
On April 09 2009 22:06 Ancestral wrote: Yes kespa does seem to kind of suck, I'm glad that even different teams will watch out for each other when faced with ridiculous BS from kespa.
I do so wish they'd spell "Hite" as "Hait" though. After laboriously memorizing Romanization rules I always read it as "hee-tay."
Oh shit is it not "hee-tay"? Thanks Only seen new name romanised, assumed it was like 히데 or something.
This isn't really news. If you've ever been in Korean traffic, there are so many times when there are two guys who get out of their cars and start yelling at each other and once in awhile there are fisticuffs and since the cars aren't moving anyway, everyone is watching. I wish Korean people would expand their cursing vocabulary; it's a bit difficult to get creative.
It was called the "chicken fight" or something? Its traditional.
Gyu Baek was just protecting a fellow player from abuse of higher ranked officials.. So I guess he wants to look innocent and cover up by suing and claiming a simple assault?
On April 09 2009 22:14 pubbanana wrote: Jo Kyu Baek is really ripped and fit, I think he used to train in Tae Kwon Do or something. Total badass.
I'd lay odds that 70% + of progamers have at least a 1st degree black belt in TKD seeing how as it's the national sport and stuff. Obviously some of them probably took it more seriously than others, but this is about equivalent to saying, "This dude used to play [American] football," about someone from the US. As in, completely unsurprising and barely relevant.
"the referee said he will be suing the coach for hitting him." If I could have any wish granted, I would want to be able to hit all the stupid people like him without retaliation.
On April 10 2009 08:05 Avidkeystamper wrote: "the referee said he will be suing the coach for hitting him." If I could have any wish granted, I would want to be able to hit all the stupid people like him without retaliation.
It doesn't matter.
1) He probably won't sue.
and
2) If he does, unless the Korean legal system is pretty strange, he won't win anything, because as far as I read, there were no damages. So he'll get a peppercorn :-).Which... means he won't sue.
On April 10 2009 08:05 Avidkeystamper wrote: "the referee said he will be suing the coach for hitting him." If I could have any wish granted, I would want to be able to hit all the stupid people like him without retaliation.
It doesn't matter.
1) He probably won't sue.
and
2) If he does, unless the Korean legal system is pretty strange, he won't win anything, because as far as I read, there were no damages. So he'll get a peppercorn :-).Which... means he won't sue.
My wish applies for Americans too, and I'm pretty sure people have sued for pretty stupid things here.
Hehe, a fight in esports? I can imagine. Like, they award the game to someone after a computer crashes, and the two teams run up on stage and start brawling... somehow that doesn't seem likely.
On April 09 2009 23:37 Elric wrote: Yup.. Koreans fight a lot more than their Asian stereotype suggests.
Check our some of their parliamentary sessions for example.
So does this not apply to people under the age of 25 or something? Progamers show so little emotion it's not even funny.
How are they supposed to show emotion while playing a video game, do you want them to go I hate you outloud when someone DT drops them or cuss or what?
On April 09 2009 22:14 pubbanana wrote: Jo Kyu Baek is really ripped and fit, I think he used to train in Tae Kwon Do or something. Total badass.
I'd lay odds that 70% + of progamers have at least a 1st degree black belt in TKD seeing how as it's the national sport and stuff. Obviously some of them probably took it more seriously than others, but this is about equivalent to saying, "This dude used to play [American] football," about someone from the US. As in, completely unsurprising and barely relevant.
I would be much more scared to fight someone if I heard they played football than if I heard they did TKD.
On April 09 2009 22:14 pubbanana wrote: Jo Kyu Baek is really ripped and fit, I think he used to train in Tae Kwon Do or something. Total badass.
I'd lay odds that 70% + of progamers have at least a 1st degree black belt in TKD seeing how as it's the national sport and stuff. Obviously some of them probably took it more seriously than others, but this is about equivalent to saying, "This dude used to play [American] football," about someone from the US. As in, completely unsurprising and barely relevant.
I would be much more scared to fight someone if I heard they played football than if I heard they did TKD.
Wow - I know all the Kespa referees. I wonder who it was o.O; (They're actually really nice people - especially the FPS Specialist referee who does Sudden Attack and Special Force.)
The reason for the "fight" was brought on because Inter.Ruin (Hite Sparkyz) had complained about the computer being laggy (slow), the referee said it was his fault and so nothing was done about it. The STX coach then got mad and that’s when they started to exchange words.
What the heck? Isn't the referee supposed to check the settings and stuff when these kind of stuff happens? What are they there for? Decorations? =.="
And that coach deserves a standing ovation for what he has done.
On April 09 2009 22:14 pubbanana wrote: Jo Kyu Baek is really ripped and fit, I think he used to train in Tae Kwon Do or something. Total badass.
I'd lay odds that 70% + of progamers have at least a 1st degree black belt in TKD seeing how as it's the national sport and stuff. Obviously some of them probably took it more seriously than others, but this is about equivalent to saying, "This dude used to play [American] football," about someone from the US. As in, completely unsurprising and barely relevant.
I would be much more scared to fight someone if I heard they played football than if I heard they did TKD.
What? Are you kidding?
No, he's not. Huge muscle mass will always beat most any type of fighting based on form, unless the form fighting is simulated. Most football players can literally run you over.
On April 10 2009 22:45 NeverGG wrote: Wow - I know all the Kespa referees. I wonder who it was o.O; (They're actually really nice people - especially the FPS Specialist referee who does Sudden Attack and Special Force.)
I would not think nice people would sue for an extremely minor physical altercation, even if he is generally civil he must have an ego.
On April 09 2009 22:14 pubbanana wrote: Jo Kyu Baek is really ripped and fit, I think he used to train in Tae Kwon Do or something. Total badass.
I'd lay odds that 70% + of progamers have at least a 1st degree black belt in TKD seeing how as it's the national sport and stuff. Obviously some of them probably took it more seriously than others, but this is about equivalent to saying, "This dude used to play [American] football," about someone from the US. As in, completely unsurprising and barely relevant.
On April 09 2009 22:14 pubbanana wrote: Jo Kyu Baek is really ripped and fit, I think he used to train in Tae Kwon Do or something. Total badass.
I'd lay odds that 70% + of progamers have at least a 1st degree black belt in TKD seeing how as it's the national sport and stuff. Obviously some of them probably took it more seriously than others, but this is about equivalent to saying, "This dude used to play [American] football," about someone from the US. As in, completely unsurprising and barely relevant.
I would be much more scared to fight someone if I heard they played football than if I heard they did TKD.
What? Are you kidding?
Do you even know how useless TKD is for the most part in an actual fight?
On April 09 2009 22:14 pubbanana wrote: Jo Kyu Baek is really ripped and fit, I think he used to train in Tae Kwon Do or something. Total badass.
I'd lay odds that 70% + of progamers have at least a 1st degree black belt in TKD seeing how as it's the national sport and stuff. Obviously some of them probably took it more seriously than others, but this is about equivalent to saying, "This dude used to play [American] football," about someone from the US. As in, completely unsurprising and barely relevant.
I would be much more scared to fight someone if I heard they played football than if I heard they did TKD.
What? Are you kidding?
Do you even know how useless TKD is for the most part in an actual fight?
Yeah tkd is a competition sport, when in competition full force blows aren't allowed.
I was disappointed when I saw the headline, but after reading it through it seems like the STX coach did the right thing. Good to see a coach from an opposing team standing up for a player.
KeSPA was really great in the beginning, especially with how they helped pro starcraft in Korea. but now they seem to be hindering it more than helping it, they should allow the teams to be completely privatized but keep a list of regulations (as opposed to actively enforcing regulations)
KeSPA's just another obstacle binding e-Sports from growing.
Remember that 'please use the proper GG' rule? They are applying it from Round 4 onwards. So 'zizi yO' = temporary ban from playing/warnings/fines/whatever KeSPA wants to do.
I can agree with everyone expressing their support for coach Gyu Baek's actions. It was honorable to defend a player from another team and just to stand up to an irrational authority. STX Fighting!
Maybe being good in tkd doesnt mean that you are a good fighter, but being good in tkd doesnt mean that you are a bad one either.
Someone with good tkd skills could learn to fight too, and use the tkd skills in a real fight. It just depends on whether the person wants to learn how to fight, and if he has the "talent" for it.
And that way tkd is more useful than football <_> I mean come on, in football, you can run over someone. Someone who is good enough can just dodge you. =D
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