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latent
Profile Joined March 2009
United States428 Posts
April 06 2009 20:17 GMT
#81
Other than Neo Medusa these maps seem a bit unfavorable to Protoss. I'm just stabbing out into the air though.
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InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-06 20:26:16
April 06 2009 20:22 GMT
#82
TvP on outsider looks like it be kinda hard for toss. Looks like terren never really will have to push the center. Seems like they can just leap frog the edges of the map pretty easy.

EDIT: also it kinda hard to tell but outsider really needs that mineral patch at those back expos so u need a scv and dropship b4 u can expo there. Right now looks like terren could fast expo then just float two CCs to those back expos and be running off 4 gas really quick.
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scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
April 06 2009 20:25 GMT
#83
I still don't understand how the changes in Medusa are supposed to take 68% pvt to 50-60%
latent
Profile Joined March 2009
United States428 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-06 20:28:37
April 06 2009 20:25 GMT
#84
On April 07 2009 05:22 InToTheWannaB wrote:
TvP on outsider looks like it be kinda hard for toss. Looks like terren never really will have to push the center. Seems like they can just leap frog the edges of the map pretty easy.

Agreed. Not to mention, even if Terran did take the center, the lava makes it a deathtrap for Protoss. They have very little recourse against being sieged.

With Battle Royale, I'm not even sure what to think. How exactly does a protoss defeat a giant Terran army on that map? It's difficult to judge distances from a shrunken down map, but if Terran can siege the Protoss base from outside those boundaries... jeez. I don't know about zerg though.
Moo
Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
April 06 2009 20:29 GMT
#85
God's Garden is going to be a huge nightmare for Terran in TvP.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36401 Posts
April 06 2009 20:33 GMT
#86
God's Garden will be very much like Andromeda imo
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scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-06 21:09:54
April 06 2009 21:04 GMT
#87
On April 07 2009 05:22 InToTheWannaB wrote:
EDIT: also it kinda hard to tell but outsider really needs that mineral patch at those back expos so u need a scv and dropship b4 u can expo there. Right now looks like terren could fast expo then just float two CCs to those back expos and be running off 4 gas really quick.

Well any race can float stuff down to their third. Seems like a high money map for everyone (especially terran though).

The whole set looks like it favors terran in general. Perhaps they're hoping for oov and Boxer to make a comeback.
sAw
Profile Joined November 2008
965 Posts
April 06 2009 21:17 GMT
#88
Can't wait to see some games, they look amazing. We'll see about balance though.
thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
April 06 2009 22:05 GMT
#89
I'm very bummed that Flashland (the BGH esque map) didn't make it.
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
April 06 2009 22:25 GMT
#90
On April 06 2009 15:57 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2009 15:54 GTR wrote:
here is a picture of neo medusa

[image loading]


so yeh middle is mostly buildable now

i don't understand the gas change at the bottom main though


Gas change is so random lol.

Btw, is it me or does the cliff at the main (right beside the mineral line) seem wider now?

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On April 06 2009 15:57 IdrA wrote:
you could siege the gas from really high up on the high ground at 6 before, whereas with the other 2 mains you had to make your way further in before you could reach any resources.


Ah, thanks Idra! But if that's the case, shouldn't they move the gas at 3 to below the town hall?



also, for zerg (especially in ZvZ) if you need to make a sunken in ur main it won't ever cover gas,minerals, and buildings with the gas at 12, if it's at 3 it's much closer/tighter.

PS- I hope they fixed the space behind minerals there too, I've gotten drones trapped there a few times.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
April 06 2009 22:26 GMT
#91
Hopefully God's garden will replace fucking python. That shit is just getting old now.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Person514cs
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1004 Posts
April 06 2009 23:01 GMT
#92
Outsider has 15 mineral patch and 12 gas. That's a lot of resource for a 3 player map.
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NahLGaE
Profile Joined February 2008
Korea (South)523 Posts
April 06 2009 23:06 GMT
#93
heartbreak looks like it'll be pretty hard pvz ;o

extremely interesting maps tho. glad they changed medusa too
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n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
April 06 2009 23:28 GMT
#94
Outsider looks like its gonna be a bitch ZvP, lots of minerals, tons of places to harass or drop lots/dts, really easy expos...
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scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
April 07 2009 00:08 GMT
#95
I wish Idra would tell us more about what playing Protoss is like on these new maps.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
April 07 2009 00:13 GMT
#96
really fucking easy
as normal
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eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
April 07 2009 00:30 GMT
#97
Honestly i really liked central plains. Oh well not that big of a loss.
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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-07 00:38:28
April 07 2009 00:37 GMT
#98
On April 06 2009 19:46 IdrA wrote:
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On April 06 2009 19:35 Shikyo wrote:
Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy would they get the God's Garden??? Just bring Loki back. =( Central Plains was so much more interesting.

indeed
its basically a shitty boring version of loki, altho at least carriers arent as overpowered

I can understand you might not like it, but I don't see how it's a boring version.

Unlike Loki your back expo can be cliffed, which could lead to some cool drop ship play.
And the front expo doesn't have a small choke at the front, it's quite wide open plus the minerals are facing impassable terrain which is going to make muta harass really easy.
It kinda seems like both expansions are a lot more difficult to hold than Loki.
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Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
April 07 2009 00:44 GMT
#99
On April 07 2009 09:13 IdrA wrote:
really fucking easy
as normal

hahaha what did you expect from a Terran, scwiz?
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
April 07 2009 01:02 GMT
#100
Outsider is so damn ugly
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