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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
Mod edit: On November 25 2008 16:42 GTR-2-Go wrote: It was on FOMOS so this is true. Only done because they were overtly concerned that the new patch mechanics could ruin LAN (UDP) play (IdrA did a post somewhere about this issue). 
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Seraphim
United States4467 Posts
Edit: I thought the OP was just frustrated and speculated completely. My bad. | ||
cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
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capek
United States585 Posts
On November 25 2008 16:20 Seraphim wrote: What the hell? Close please. are you demanding a close because you are frustrated or because you think this thread warrants a close...? it is news.... | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
please close if u want to, its ok for me | ||
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
But Kespa, what about all those zerg mineral hackers in PL?!?!?! | ||
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spydernoob
Canada1066 Posts
On November 25 2008 16:30 Fontong wrote: Lol the title is awesome enough to merit it being left open. "Kespa: We gonna still using 1.15.3" But Kespa, what about all those zerg mineral hackers in PL?!?!?! all that minberal hacking dosnt seem to be doing them any good | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8552 Posts
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Not_Computer
Canada2277 Posts
here, you can use this to make the op longer: ========= In breaking news, the korean e-sports association, also known as KESPA, has made a shocking announcement that they will continue to use the old 1.15.3 patch. This is surprising news as the latest 1.16.0 patch has been just released merely hours ago! This stunning denial and outright face palm to blizzard by the korean progaming community shows how, though we all appreciate the hard work and diligence the blizzard patching team puts out, their patches still have a long way to go before being of great quality and worthy of any hype. Of course that is the patching business, and as Ellen DeGenres said in a totally unrelated comment, "I was coming home from kindergarten--well they told me it was kindergarten. I found out later I had been working in a factory for ten years. It's good for a kid to know how to make gloves." Likewise, we should be thankful for honored community members and genius programmers such as (i don't want to name them because I'm probably going to forget someone important) that have brought us all the coolest gadgets and brood war add-ons, along with anti-hacks in our never ending battle against those who cheat. In conclusion, I'm really hungry and Honey Nut Cheerios haven't been helping to satisfy my midnight hunger. | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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GTR
51463 Posts
Only done because they were overtly concerned that the new patch mechanics could ruin LAN (UDP) play (IdrA did a post somewhere about this issue). | ||
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
On November 25 2008 16:37 Not_Computer wrote: keep this open! I find it fascinating! here, you can use this to make the op longer: ========= In breaking news, the korean e-sports association, also known as KESPA, has made a shocking announcement that they will continue to use the old 1.15.3 patch. This is surprising news as the latest 1.16.0 patch has been just released merely hours ago! This stunning denial and outright face palm to blizzard by the korean progaming community shows how, though we all appreciate the hard work and diligence the blizzard patching guy that does work when he isn't working on something that bring them the big cash puts out, their patches still have a long way to go before being of great quality and worthy of any hype. Of course that is the patching business, and as Ellen DeGenres said in a totally unrelated comment, "I was coming home from kindergarten--well they told me it was kindergarten. I found out later I had been working in a factory for ten years. It's good for a kid to know how to make gloves." Likewise, we should be thankful for honored community members and genius programmers such as (i don't want to name them because I'm probably going to forget someone important) that have brought us all the coolest gadgets and brood war add-ons, along with anti-hacks in our never ending battle against those who cheat. In conclusion, I'm really hungry and Honey Nut Cheerios haven't been helping to satisfy my midnight hunger. fixed imo either way hope the fix lan cuz i like the shit they added | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
PS- this is why 2nd post said close. | ||
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Ki_Do
Korea (South)981 Posts
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NeverTheEndlessWiz
Singapore827 Posts
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nortydog
Australia3067 Posts
On November 25 2008 20:31 NeverTheEndlessWiz wrote: Go watch a replay in single player and wiggle your choppy mouse aroundThis is the first time maybe KESPA did something right? Do they have any data/proof to back this claim of lag on LAN? | ||
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gg_hertzz
2152 Posts
We ain't gunna take it, anymoooooorre | ||
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BlackStar
Netherlands3029 Posts
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
On November 25 2008 19:49 CharlieMurphy wrote: I wonder if its also because of the saved chat issue. I'm sure the B.net lag shit doesn't even matter as they all use LAN and not battle.net for practice (90% of the time anyways). PS- this is why 2nd post said close. Err, it lags on UDP too which is huge reason for this. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
There is the issue with anything u write on b.net that has an R as the second character makes it try to reply to last messenger too. I don't see any lag in single player or in a rep though. | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
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uT)Drebin
United States42 Posts
On November 25 2008 21:01 CharlieMurphy wrote: Jesus does blizzard even test their patches? seriously how can you oversight some huge shit like this? B.net is so laggy now- not even just in games, just browsing profiles and crap is totally choppy. There is the issue with anything u write on b.net that has an R as the second character makes it try to reply to last messenger too. I don't see any lag in single player or in a rep though. sigh.. | ||
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Realpenguin
8253 Posts
On November 25 2008 21:10 clazziquai wrote: ok, sticking to 1.15.3 thanks for the heads up..glad i didnt update. aye, same here. the new 1.16 features look nice, but I won't take a chance with lag.  | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
even in game we couldn't see each other type slot 2 and slot 4. Both could see host type and he could see us type. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
kespa could be using 1.10 for all i care , wasnt that the last patch with actual gameplay changes? might have even been 1.09 when was the last time a bug changed the outcome of a pro match? | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
It's really nice of blizzard to continually support such an old game, but honestly they're doing a poor job. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
Hope they'll fix this soon | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
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drug_vict1m
844 Posts
On November 25 2008 20:42 BlackStar wrote: Does LAN now have Bnet latency or something? i lol'ed | ||
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RamenStyle
United States1929 Posts
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Puosu
6985 Posts
On November 25 2008 21:46 Nytefish wrote: When the drone death of a cancelled hatchery caused crashes (this only started happening after an attempt to fix a different bug). It's really nice of blizzard to continually support such an old game, but honestly they're doing a poor job. Don't remember which one is older but the bug that would happen when an arbiter was made in TvP the terran's tank would become invisible and the game would crash, that was so weird and hilarious. | ||
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QibingZero
2611 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On November 26 2008 00:22 RamenStyle wrote: Powergames between KeSPA and Blizzard? the patch causes essentially unplayable lag given players used to lan latency, fixing a problem like that is not a power play. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On November 26 2008 00:35 QibingZero wrote: Those of you who think SC2 will be welcomed with open arms should take this as a note ! -_- its not about pushing away anything new or trying to spite blizzard THE PATCH SUCKS nobody, progamer or not, wants to play in lag. the decision to go with 1.15.3 is solely about gameplay. | ||
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QibingZero
2611 Posts
On November 26 2008 00:48 IdrA wrote: -_- its not about pushing away anything new or trying to spite blizzard THE PATCH SUCKS nobody, progamer or not, wants to play in lag. the decision to go with 1.15.3 is solely about gameplay. Well, the purpose of saying that wasn't to spite KESPA to make them seem closed to new ideas or anything. I agree with the decision wholeheartedly. It was to note that SC2 will not be anywhere near ready for competitive play at anywhere near the level of SC for years to come (if then). | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
alot more to consider with sc->sc2. | ||
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Ki_Do
Korea (South)981 Posts
Even forgg said that hes gonna stick with bw. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
did i miss a press release? sc2 coming out tomorrow? | ||
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
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Elvin_vn
Vietnam2038 Posts
- In the bnet channel, the interface loads parts by parts. Now it's a bit annoying but i'm willing to take that trade-off for the <100% CPU consumption, as it doesn't affect the game play and the functionality... - In game: OMG, it's CPU-lagging as hell. My mouse cursor often got stuck for 0.2 second then suddenly revert back to normal. Very annoying and so hard to micro. EDIT: yes, I updated to 1.16  , was so excited.. but fail | ||
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Shadowfury333
Canada314 Posts
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IzzyCraft
United States4487 Posts
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DanceCommander
United States1808 Posts
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6635 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
On November 26 2008 04:43 FrozenArbiter wrote: Wow, I thought it was my computer that had gone sour, good to know the lag wasn't my fault. I thought it at first too, but was quickly turned on to the truth. | ||
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Racenilatr
United States2756 Posts
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Bekele
Canada47 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
I cannot toggle the speed (not faster nor lower). It shows all text ingame, even /f m which my opponent received.. I never saw that in game. Sucks.. TT | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 26 2008 01:19 Ki_Do wrote: come on Idra even u said that its not suitable for esports atm and ppl at cj house arent happy with it. Even forgg said that hes gonna stick with bw. Forgg sounded like he was done with gaming once he was done with BW. Several WC3 players seem to think the same (ie "yeah, I'm quitting once WC3 is done for"). All this being said, anyone remember how Boxer was asked in an interview if he'd switch to WC3 once it came out, and he replied something along the lines "Of course, I'm a professional, I'll play whatever is the most popular"? Pre-release statements dont mean THAT much. | ||
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Ki_Do
Korea (South)981 Posts
at least i can say i lived in brood war age | ||
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hiroxx
Ireland115 Posts
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TW WiNNinG 54
United States250 Posts
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Dknight
United States5223 Posts
On November 25 2008 21:21 CharlieMurphy wrote: Having a glitch right now where im in lobby, can see host talking but not 2nd slot. They can't see me or can't see me type or something. even in game we couldn't see each other type slot 2 and slot 4. Both could see host type and he could see us type. This isn't something new with 1.16. Has been happening for a while now. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 26 2008 05:57 Ki_Do wrote: so the end for me is pretty close at least i can say i lived in brood war age I don't get why you can't just wait for the game to be released and see if it's any good.. | ||
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SaviorSelf
Canada118 Posts
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
On November 26 2008 05:48 FrozenArbiter wrote: Forgg sounded like he was done with gaming once he was done with BW. Several WC3 players seem to think the same (ie "yeah, I'm quitting once WC3 is done for"). All this being said, anyone remember how Boxer was asked in an interview if he'd switch to WC3 once it came out, and he replied something along the lines "Of course, I'm a professional, I'll play whatever is the most popular"? Pre-release statements dont mean THAT much. Did Warcraft III ever get more popular in Korea than Broodwar? Tell me if I'm wrong | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
Maybe they did change the ports? | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On November 26 2008 07:55 Superiorwolf wrote: Did Warcraft III ever get more popular in Korea than Broodwar? Tell me if I'm wrong No it never did, my point was more that Forgg saying he won't play SC2 means about as much as Boxer saying he will play WC3. | ||
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
Just arguing minor deatils though, you're right. Pre-release statements don't mean much. Back on topic too: About the patch... I havent downloaded it yet. I want to just for kicks though to check out this lag. | ||
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sixghost
United States2096 Posts
On November 26 2008 08:14 FrozenArbiter wrote: No it never did, my point was more that Forgg saying he won't play SC2 means about as much as Boxer saying he will play WC3. Boxers statement that he would play WC3 means nothing because the condition he laid down never came to be. That's not really a valid example. | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On November 26 2008 07:52 SaviorSelf wrote: Good thing I have cd key 1234-5678-9012-3456 So I cannot play on bnet therefore ONLY ICCUP and have no lag as for all you fools playing on bnet...why not just switch to ICCUP? There is no lag, no cheaters, and no fmp. why the hell are you publicly proclaiming that you're worthless? | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
How is that even remotely relevant?? | ||
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R3condite
Korea (South)1541 Posts
On November 25 2008 16:34 spydernoob wrote: all that minberal hacking dosnt seem to be doing them any good ROFL pwneedddd | ||
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stk01001
United States786 Posts
I wish blizzard could have at least condensed the last two patches into one patch... I mean 1.15.3 was basically useless and then finally when we get chaoslauncher and iccup upgraded they release another one... I mean the new patch is nice and all, but honestly there's always going to be hacking and while the other aspects of the patch are cool, I don't think it is worth the inconvenience it is causing... | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14896 Posts
On November 26 2008 12:16 thedeadhaji wrote: and why the fuck are pple even mentioning sc2 in this thread. How is that even remotely relevant?? | ||
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meathook
1289 Posts
On November 26 2008 05:42 G.s)NarutO wrote: Replays don't work for me. I cannot toggle the speed (not faster nor lower). It shows all text ingame, even /f m which my opponent received.. I never saw that in game. Sucks.. TT That is interesting. This would solve the problem of ppl randomly accusing obs of helping the players. But they should make it optional, who wants to watch a rep with a bunch of jibberish they don't understand/care about.. On November 26 2008 08:14 FrozenArbiter wrote: No it never did, my point was more that Forgg saying he won't play SC2 means about as much as Boxer saying he will play WC3. Pardon? Looks like I missed something. When did he say this? Linky, please? All aboard the KeSPA wagon! We gonna still using 1.15.3!!! | ||
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Descent
1244 Posts
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Ki_Do
Korea (South)981 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
fight the crappy patch institution if blizz just let masterofchaos, r1ch, and the other few who did their thing, bw would be fine | ||
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On November 27 2008 06:53 Descent wrote: I can't believe this is a link under the News and Features section on the TL homepage... Why? | ||
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ocoini
648 Posts
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
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Raz0r
United States287 Posts
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parkin
1080 Posts
Edit: conspiracy theory: they are fucking up BW so people will switch to SC2! o.Ov | ||
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warribbons
51 Posts
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Magic84
Russian Federation1381 Posts
On December 01 2008 16:06 parkin wrote: I havent noticed any lag on either bnet or udp/lan... Edit: conspiracy theory: they are fucking up BW so people will switch to SC2! o.Ov Valve did exactly that to cs1.6 not so long ago. Not even a conspiracy but a valid assumption. http://www.onlinegamingzeitgeist.com/games/ Truly a scum decision. | ||
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