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United States10774 Posts
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im surprised that flash is still on top despite dropping out of the leagues
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
congrats to forgg.. up 14 is amazing.
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fOrGG +14 wow! and bye savior 
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ah... incredible savior #22
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In before kespa is bullshit response.
Hmm only 4.5 points between jaedong and flash, and almost 660 between jaedong and lux. Zerg distribution is pretty interesting, 3 in top 5, and the next one down at 19.
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Best will drop next month =( and Forgg is 7. Weird how mind is still 6. And Stork and Bisu have now dropped outta top ten.
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Lol @ Rumble :|
Is GSI a factor into the rankings? I know that the event itself is not sanctioned by Kespa so I'm curious.
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+14 for ForGG, WOW!
@QuietIdiot: No, I think since it is not KeSpa sanctioned it doesn't factor in at all, since KeSpa puts together these rankings. A shame since I think it would propel Shuttle into the top 20
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On August 02 2008 03:57 grobo wrote:
Savior keeps going down ;_;
fix.
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Belgium9950 Posts
wow flash and jaedong have just such a huge lead
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yay xellos! hang in there
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On August 02 2008 04:01 RaGe wrote:
wow flash and jaedong have just such a huge lead
Yeah its almost scary how far ahead they are.
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Bisu and Stork falling hard . WOW 3 zergs in top 5 since when has that happent ?
JD is handicaped on takeing points only from 1 league now ... I wonder if he can keep up . Nothing a repeat performance and possibly taking the MSL again can't do  .
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Wow only 4.5 points separate JD and Flash. Thats really close. ForGG big mover.
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Upmagic on the way out =/
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flash is still number 1, damn.
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9071 Posts
the protoss kings are falling pretty fast...
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
On August 02 2008 04:46 disciple wrote:
the protoss kings are falling pretty fast...
BEST FIGHTING!
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How is Savior STILL in the top 30!?!?
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He hasn't been playing enough to lose all those points?
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ForGG, July and Best, big jumps >.>
I'm surprised that Lux is at number 3, definitely doesn't reflect the map balance ratio's we've seen.
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Savior continues to plument T_T
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I'm pretty shocked Light hasn't fallen more. He's like fallen off the face of the earth in the past round of leagues.
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9071 Posts
On August 02 2008 04:48 3 Lions wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2008 04:46 disciple wrote:
the protoss kings are falling pretty fast... BEST FIGHTING!
BeSt earned a lot of points due to his performance in the PL and the OSL final, to improve his position he must outperform next season in the exact same tournaments, cause he is already out of the MSL. Bisu held his top position for so long not only because his MSL titles but because of his not incredible but solid performance in the OSL (semifinals back-to-back) and he did just Ok in the PL. I dont see BeSt getting much higher next season, #4 is perhaps the best he can get. I will focus my attention on Kal's performance cause he is a strong candidate to claim a very high spot in the kespa ranking, but who knows Bisu might bounce back and claim what is rightfully his
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I cant believe SaviOr is higher than a lot of players -_-;
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Flash and Jeadong are really ahead in points
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On August 02 2008 06:03 InfeSteD[rA] wrote:
I cant believe SaviOr is higher than a lot of players -_-;
In fairness, he beats most chumps. It's the "named players" that he constantly loses to nowadays.
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United States5262 Posts
PLEASE HANG ON XELLOSSSSSSSSS
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wow 4 point difference between flash and jaedong
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On August 02 2008 06:20 Southlight wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2008 06:03 InfeSteD[rA] wrote:
I cant believe SaviOr is higher than a lot of players -_-; In fairness, he beats most chumps. It's the "named players" that he constantly loses to nowadays.
Do you want to back this up by naming those chumps?
According to TLPD after his horrific loss to Bisu 0-3 in the MSL final, the only 2 chumps that I could see he's played against were  Saint and  TheStC, we have to be honest here... SaviOr can't beat anyone anymore... I mean go and look at his games history... it seems like he gets 1 win out of every 5 losses
p.s. I am not bashing on SaviOr, because I love the guy and I am happy he still that high.. but it seems a little too much..
[edit]Actual numbers* since 03-03-07(bisu's msl final)Record: 47 wins - 50 losses (48.45%)
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Why is Mind still 6th? I think I have seen him like in 3 games in the last 2 months of Wemade games in PL, and he got kicked out pretty early of MSL...
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On August 02 2008 07:28 jkillashark wrote:
PLEASE HANG ON XELLOSSSSSSSSS
Agreed. ;_; Who cares about that chump savior, Xellos is the one that should get his groove back!
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It's good to have ForGG as a rising star now. He brings fresh aggressive terran play and someone to root for besides the old/new favorites. I hope he won't disappoint too soon and I have a feeling he's working hard on not letting it happen either.
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Midas! YES.
Nice to see other SKT-1 players climbing the ranks as well. I'm excited to see JulyZerg up so many places.
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XellOs, hang onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!
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On August 02 2008 07:28 jkillashark wrote:
PLEASE HANG ON XELLOSSSSSSSSS
Wow I didn't even click the second page before I posted that. Let us hope he hears our cries.
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the differance between Jaedong and Flash to their peers is ridicolous
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On August 02 2008 08:17 sushiman wrote:Agreed. ;_; Who cares about that chump savior
if ineed to post you could be happy..then you'll care
such a sad video..
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How fitting that BackHo is 18, because that's what I think every time I see him beating anyone.
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How the FUCK can flash be #1? he didnt even make it to any finals!
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btw very nice top 10!
4 Protoss
3 Terran
3 Zerg
You dont see that, that often.
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the only thing i see when I look at this is... zergs are getting raped so hard. the top 3 are doing ok, yarnc isn't doing much in 1v1, and the bottom 2 haven't really done shit. So 7/30 are zergs.. damn
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On August 02 2008 03:47 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
congrats to forgg.. up 14 is amazing.
inc you a zerg you traitor screw forgg gogo july with +9 hes in top 5 in kespa im crying tears of joy
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Some might no longer believe in a comeback, but as long as Savior is still playing I'll still believe!
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On August 02 2008 11:56 Ozarugold wrote:
Some might no longer believe in a comeback, but as long as Savior is still playing I'll still believe!
/wave hi july
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id say flash and jaedong are tied right now. 4.5 points away from eachother means that they just need one game to get in the lead. look at the other players below jaedong tho. theyr way far behind 700 points or more its crazy
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wow both flash and jaedong are really close of each other! That reminds me Federer vs Nadal. Haaha. Im amazed they're so far ahead of the rest of the players
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On August 02 2008 08:14 InfeSteD[rA] wrote:According to TLPD after his horrific loss to Bisu 0-3 in the MSL final, the only 2 chumps that I could see he's played against were Saint and TheStC, we have to be honest here... SaviOr can't beat anyone anymore... I mean go and look at his games history... it seems like he gets 1 win out of every 5 losses
Almost everyone he's lost to has name value in one way or other, and almost all of those said players can be found in the kespa top 30.
Everyone else he has a tendency to beat. See GomTV and OSL prelim.
Which therein puts him "above average" in the progaming scene, even if he isn't even a-class anymore. And thus, it's not that surprising he hangs around in the top 30, because he beats who he's "supposed" to beat and loses to people who are considered "okay." It's not like Ra who consistently loses to no-names, and thus is deservedly WAY out of the top 30.
EDIT:
Yeah, seriously, aside from those two "chumps" and all the "chumps" that he apparently beat in the Intel-Averatec as well as his romp through his group in the OSL prelim prior to losing 2-1 to free, everyone on that record and games list has name value. No, they're not top 5 players and it clearly shows Savior isn't top 10 or anything, but it's not like him being top 30 is like "omg what he loses to chumps he doesn't deserve!"
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Its a virtual tie between JD and Flash anyway, but is there anywhere I can see beyond top 50? Maybe 100?
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Well my Storkypie is still in line to make both leagues (unlike a certain #2) so he's clearly gonna make a comeback starting with revenging himself against Backho in the WCG quals.
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Damn, Bisu/Stork falling is making me sad. Forgg just keeps rolling on up however. Good to see the return of Midas too.
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Russian Federation1208 Posts
July is up!!! Go-go-go, the former TOP1 KeSPA, make it again!
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On August 02 2008 10:14 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
How fitting that BackHo is 18, because that's what I think every time I see him beating anyone.
Indeed.
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MrHoon
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its surprising to see how many of TL people dont like the idea of flash being good
I thought people would be happy to see a somewhat of a dominate terran o.O
Except you ForGG, I hate your starport plays it pisses me off
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I think Elo should be more respected then KeSPa but it isn't T.T
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On August 03 2008 04:31 Wasabi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2008 04:18 G5 wrote:
I think Elo should be more respected then KeSPa but it isn't T.T Let's compare iloveoov and Nada. Nada has won more accomplishments than iloveoov, yet iloveoov has a higher ELO rank than him. This is because his domination was stronger than Nada's. Would you, however, say that iloveoov is better than Nada just because he has a higher ELO rank, but Nada has... a lot more 2nd place and one more OSL title than iloveoov?ELO is a good ranking system determining a player's actual winning statistics, but does not scale accomplishments adequately.
During his prime, iloveoov was better than Nada. I'd say an on-form oov was more dominant than an on-form Nada. However, Nada has the somewhat better career*, iloveoov had the greater peak.... kinda like Tim Duncan vs Hakeem Olajuwon.
* Nada's advantage is mostly due to career length and the symbolic Golden Mouse. Oov was able to capture the "career slam" by winning proleague and WCG, which Nada has never won.
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The light that burns twice as bright burns for half as long - and iloveoov has burned so very, very brightly. Some people value domination and skill, others value the bottom line. Oov has been excellent in both. Oov has led his team to Proleague victories and has won a WCG; which evens out Nada's extra OSL.
Stork is a very skilled player, but also a choker ._. and a bit unlucky.
P&C didn't win the Grand Final Otherwise, you would be counting 4 SKT1 victories vs 1 P&C. Still an advantage in PL.
edit: Winning WCG/WCG Korea is still an accomplishment, whether it counts for Kespa or not. I maintain that Nada and Oov's career accomplishments are comparable. You can weigh it in Nada's favor or Oov's.
Oov was more dominant and achieved more in a 2.5 year window. Nada deserves credit for longer career and getting out of the big slump, winning the Golden Mouse.
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United States5262 Posts
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Flash JD 4 point rivalry.
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thedeadhaji
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:O:O how is rumble higher than midas~~~
I guess his ogn qualifier games counted for some points?
I'm rather perplexed X_X
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The top 7 Kespas are monsters , the others are meh ...
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i would say that top 10 are such a monsters and the rest are still waaay better than foreigners .... and thats sad gogo Flash !!! :D
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United States10774 Posts
On August 03 2008 05:22 Sinedd wrote:i would say that top 10 are such a monsters and the rest are still waaay better than foreigners .... and thats sad gogo Flash !!! :D
edited: nvm, misread.
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On August 03 2008 05:05 thedeadhaji wrote:
:O:O how is rumble higher than midas~~~
I guess his ogn qualifier games counted for some points?
I'm rather perplexed X_X
Rumble's a quality 2v2 player and 2v2 points are actually worth quite a bit. I know Flower/Justin made waaayyy up there (like 20th) just by virtue of their 2v2 games. But Midas is looking pretty good lately, I'm sure he'll make it back up there soon.
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LOL for GG just popped outta nowhere it seems to me. I am suprised Bisu is still up so high though. FBH is so low....what happened? He was on fire a bit back. Heh, too bad for yellow, I guess luxury just got the better sc genes xD
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Yeah, Forgg just exploded in the rankings and flash is still 1 even though he's seemed pretty human lately
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On August 03 2008 06:38 NexyNexy wrote:
LOL for GG just popped outta nowhere it seems to me. I am suprised Bisu is still up so high though. FBH is so low....what happened? He was on fire a bit back. Heh, too bad for yellow, I guess luxury just got the better sc genes xD
Yeah i expected firebathero to be around 20 but not 25 thats to low imo. He has looked great in proleague but i guess since proleagues over and he wasnt in either tournament. I guess inactivity can hurt you a bit in the ranks. I definetly expect him to climb when the tournaments/proleague get going again.
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Forgg and July both made huge jumps 
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those are some big movers in the top ten
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Savior's still better than Firebathero!!!
AAAHHHHH!!!!
Yeah, I just need something to scream about right now~
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
there is not enough red on that list.
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Lol, at the almost 700points difference between the 2nd and the 3rd ones .
Flash is still number 1  and so it will be .
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Man, flash and jaedong are like batman and the joker.
I wonder if they get along?
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On September 15 2008 23:43 Kong John wrote:
Man, flash and jaedong are like batman and the joker.
I wonder if they get along?
I wish that was funny
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They seemed to have fun during the 'All Star' game on Katrina.
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At least the point gap between Jaedong and Flash is a lot more even.
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Top 10 very well proportioned, I like that 4P's,3T's,3Z's
and wow at Luxury on #3 :O
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Valhalla18444 Posts
this is august's kespa rank
the current month is september
thank you for bumping this thread
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GOGOANYTIME...
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WOOO AIRFORCE FIGHTING... ...
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Wow, Savior still pretty high. Shows how amazing he used to be.
Xellos hanging in there. Probably the last we'll see of him until he retires.
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holy bejesus.
guess we can rule out who wasn't a one-time deal
flash and jaedong :p
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