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ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-26 14:23:21
June 26 2008 14:22 GMT
#141
@ dinmsab

Are you saying you were able to stay healthy and fit while studying 12 hours a day? I mean like doing sports, eating at normal times, getting enough sleep, having a good condition, no signs of weakness, no long-term tiredness, no taking drugs/else to stay focused, etc.?
Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-26 14:32:39
June 26 2008 14:32 GMT
#142
It can be speculated that Savior's actually a tester for SC2 given how Blizz chose him over others to attend WWI as well as this seemingly strange move by CJ. Just a speculation.
"Eyes in the sky."
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
June 26 2008 14:32 GMT
#143
On June 26 2008 23:22 ForAdun wrote:
@ dinmsab

Are you saying you were able to stay healthy and fit while studying 12 hours a day? I mean like doing sports, eating at normal times, getting enough sleep, having a good condition, no signs of weakness, no long-term tiredness, no taking drugs/else to stay focused, etc.?


Depends on your definition of "fit and healthy", I still had to walk around a lot to go from my school to tuition classes... so I got my exercise there, but I did feel really tired by the time I get home which is around 7-8pm. I got enough sleep since I usually sleep at 10, and wake up at 6... but I usually end up using saturdays and sundays to take long naps . I admit, its not exactly the healthiest lifestyle but over here its pretty normal thing to do if your going to stay ahead in class. Although this is nothing compared to the studying some college students do for final exams.. all nighters etc, i've seen them all.
..
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-26 14:49:37
June 26 2008 14:47 GMT
#144
So you admit that you didn't do any real sports? That's my definition of living unhealthy.
Oh, and playing soccer twice a week doesn't count, sorry. It's better than nothing but still below anything I would call healthy.
Chromyne
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada561 Posts
June 26 2008 15:07 GMT
#145
I'm quite sure football (soccer) is a real sport, and I don't think you have to play "real sports" to live a healthy life. Walking is a perfectly good way to exercise (and there is less wear on the body). And if playing soccer twice a week is better than nothing, then it obviously counts as something. If he can get meaningful cardio workout 3-4 times a week, that is great. I'm not saying his lifestyle if healthy, but it's not bad for an aspiring student.
Soli Deo gloria.
Ryot
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada316 Posts
June 26 2008 15:11 GMT
#146
I think he means that regular sports everyday is important for living healthy, which I completely agree with.
nortydog
Profile Joined December 2003
Australia3067 Posts
June 26 2008 15:14 GMT
#147
ForAdun is completely right, forcing savior to devote even more time to a game that is obviously draining him mentally and physically is just going to push him way past his limits.. it's insane to expect someone to throw away thier health for thier profession and if I was Savior I'd be leaving CJ for the airforce or something after this shortsighted move.

Give the guy a fucking break and let him return on his own initiative, when HE is ready he'll come back with the motivation and energy required to achieve whatever goals he might have. If in that time he realises he has none then he can quit as an A team player.
NoCleanFeed.com
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
June 26 2008 15:29 GMT
#148
A sad day for sure. He went downhill pretty quickly. He might bounce back but I don't think that's very likely.
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-26 15:36:43
June 26 2008 15:30 GMT
#149
On June 26 2008 20:13 ForAdun wrote:
What the, I thought team Estro seemed more interested in having healthy gamers from what Daniel Lee said in an interview. Guess I was wrong, they're even practicing in their free time? They're stupid, and the coaches have to read some good books about learning. The learning effect ends after about 7-8 hours of practice/day no matter what you're learning. Muscle memory stops at about 6 hours already. That's a protective function from the brain, it starts filtering most of the information and even though you can still think and understand you can't memorize most of it anymore.
The only reason they keep playing after 8 hours is that they're addicted. They don't know what else to do. They should better use the 2 extra hours for sports/exercises/rest/anything but not gaming.
This is retarded. That way they definitely will destroy their own health, step by step.


Good points. Those extra hours IMO aren't really about getting better. They are actually for showing off to their sponsors to justify any cost they incur. "Look! 2 extra hours of practice. That is 25% increase in productivity!" On paper, it sounds right and sponsors won't really understand, but nod and agree when the reality is so far off. Who cares if they burn out? It's not about the players, it's about the money.
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-26 15:37:44
June 26 2008 15:34 GMT
#150
On June 27 2008 00:07 Chromyne wrote:
I'm quite sure football (soccer) is a real sport, and I don't think you have to play "real sports" to live a healthy life. Walking is a perfectly good way to exercise (and there is less wear on the body). And if playing soccer twice a week is better than nothing, then it obviously counts as something. If he can get meaningful cardio workout 3-4 times a week, that is great. I'm not saying his lifestyle if healthy, but it's not bad for an aspiring student.


A lot of "if" there as you see. Cardio workout is exactly one of the things that you need to stay fit. I know people who look really good but have a bad condition at the same time because their cardio is so bad. I outrun them so easily it's a shame.
Thing is, you can't just do one thing over and over again and then think it's enough. Like when IdrA said he's running a hill up and down every day I thought: "Ok, that's a start. What else?" but there was nothing else, his sentence ended there. I was worried when I heard that because what he described there is a very bad training schedule. It burns your energy. So you have to wonder where you get that energy back? I tell you.
What you need is different types of sport 5 times in a week, and on the 2 rest days you can do easy stuff, like riding a bike 30 minutes, easy breathing. Breathing hard doesn't mean you're doing good sports, that's a misbelief. For example long jog (very slow jog) and normal jog (still not running) each twice a weak is good sports and it adds to your cardio. I described the long jog there (and normal jog is about 60 minutes):
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=73863#9
On the 5th day you can do something that really burns your energy like running - jogging - running - jogging etc. but it's not neccessary so often. Do this every 10th day or so and you're alright.
To all this you must add workout because it makes your everyday life much easier and it also does improve your SC techniques. I do workout 4-5 days a week, different parts of my body, each in a session. I take my time for this, I have improved a lot over the past 1 year and I can promise that your SC skill will raise up to 50% if you do it really, really good.

What I mean is not that the progamers are doing it wrong, I'm saying that they don't do it right. I mean that they should add more time to care about their body because it's their potential not only in their everyday life but it also specifically adds to their SC skills.
Believe it or not but even good cardio is useful in SC.
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-26 16:22:58
June 26 2008 16:16 GMT
#151
ForAdun I agree with everything you have said... but the thread has got derailed so much with all the staying healthy part. Let's talk about SaviOr more T.T I am so sad..

@Aerox "I wish it was true man"
w/e
ForAdun
Profile Joined August 2007
Germany986 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-26 16:31:14
June 26 2008 16:30 GMT
#152
lol yeah sorry, I forgot the actual topic over that talk. I think it's such an important topic, but yeah I should make a new thread if I feel it's neccessary.

About Savior, I can only see him improving in the B team, I don't know why it's considered such a bad thing. Much improved a lot when he joined the B team and I think XellOs, too. I only hope Savior hasn't given up yet, he's one of the few remaining zerg to mix into the current t/p dominance. I don't even know whether t or p is more dominant right now, it's so strange oO.
Maybe Savior's fall has got to do with the overall score of zerg nowadays... I think Jaedong and Luxury can change things, all zerg will follow into their footsteps and copy their play and since Savior is already one top gamer he has easier times to do so.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
June 26 2008 16:32 GMT
#153
cant imagine savior scrubing floors every day lol!!
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
tre2ettsexsju
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden248 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-26 16:52:41
June 26 2008 16:50 GMT
#154
well hes been playing at "b-level" lately :C
hm so he wont be playing 2on2 either or what?
moebius_string
Profile Joined December 2007
United States264 Posts
June 26 2008 17:22 GMT
#155
Savior is not some delicate thing thats going to crumble from a demotion. If you suck, you suck, the team should not be in the business of playing favorites. What sport team is going to keep you on the starting line up for long if you can't perform?
FBH is insurance.
skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
June 26 2008 17:23 GMT
#156
On June 27 2008 02:22 moebius_string wrote:
Savior is not some delicate thing thats going to crumble from a demotion. If you suck, you suck, the team should not be in the business of playing favorites. What sport team is going to keep you on the starting line up for long if you can't perform?


KTF?
Its not only the rain that brings the thunder
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
June 26 2008 17:39 GMT
#157
On June 27 2008 02:23 skindzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2008 02:22 moebius_string wrote:
Savior is not some delicate thing thats going to crumble from a demotion. If you suck, you suck, the team should not be in the business of playing favorites. What sport team is going to keep you on the starting line up for long if you can't perform?


KTF?


Hahahaha... so true.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
moebius_string
Profile Joined December 2007
United States264 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-26 17:44:14
June 26 2008 17:43 GMT
#158
On June 27 2008 02:23 skindzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2008 02:22 moebius_string wrote:
Savior is not some delicate thing thats going to crumble from a demotion. If you suck, you suck, the team should not be in the business of playing favorites. What sport team is going to keep you on the starting line up for long if you can't perform?


KTF?


Speak English instead of acronyms.
FBH is insurance.
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
June 26 2008 17:47 GMT
#159
On June 27 2008 02:43 moebius_string wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2008 02:23 skindzer wrote:
On June 27 2008 02:22 moebius_string wrote:
Savior is not some delicate thing thats going to crumble from a demotion. If you suck, you suck, the team should not be in the business of playing favorites. What sport team is going to keep you on the starting line up for long if you can't perform?


KTF?


Speak English instead of acronyms.


Ummm he just answered your question.

"What sport team is going to keep you on the starting line up for long if you can't perform?"

And that's KTF <.<

Though not so much anymore I guess.
boss420
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Cyprus109 Posts
June 26 2008 17:48 GMT
#160
Korea Team Fighting
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