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On June 26 2008 14:08 MTF wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2008 13:50 Southlight wrote:
To put things in perspective, Ho Jing Ho, Kang Min and Reach have not been demoted.
But Ma Jae Yoon has. Though I'm not saying you don't have a point regardless, it is worth noting that CJ and KTF are not the same team or coached by the same people. :p KTF is partly fueled by name/aesthetic power, after all. : x Demoting deeply rooted, good looking advertising/fangirl machines would probably be a bad idea.
2v2s are very random and require less skill than regular 1v1 games, so i dont think its a bad trade off for KTF, and they need the fangirls to get more sponsors... more money, more power. Let flash do all the winning while yellow and reach try their best to lose less and look pretty.
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It looks like back in the day, he really cared about every zergie he produced, never wanting to lose one unit...but now it hardly looks anything like that.
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He needs to put the time in and rework his whole game from scratch. On A team it didn't seem like there was any motivation for him to change drastically. If he decides to drop out instead of improving, that's probably a good thing since all he is doing now is destroying his record.
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On June 26 2008 14:59 moebius_string wrote:
Good, he needs to put the time in and rework his whole game from scratch. Where he was there just was no motivation for him to change.
A FBH poster in his room would be good motivation...
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On June 26 2008 07:24 grobo wrote:
I kinda saw this coming, hopefully this will force him to put some more effort into it.
btw. where did you hear this? a source would be nice.
H'ell just give up sc and go for sc2
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we should send this shirt to savior
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I thought the was already in "Team B" when they demoted him to 2v2s? 
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i can only hope this move will stimulate savior to get back to owning again. it kinda worked for much and xellos so SAVIOR I BELIEVE!!!
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the only B team player to be on kespa top 30?
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Savior doesn't currently play better then any player in the top 30 ....
He got his heart broken on stage, and then after his heart got broken his ego shriveled to a raisin and his intuitive tacical thinking/planning for the game left, as did his effort.
Savior obviously isn't trying like he was before, he no longer has the spirit for it, not that he hasn't tried, but that he can't, this is how I see his play.
He lost his self to bisu when he least expected it. I would bet money if I had it that his personal life has gone down quit alot as well since the bisu deflowering ... girls-money-depression-booze-boredom-health something outside of starcraft helped him crash .... anybody agree?
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Savior does have a chance to retool his game like Xellos and Much did successfully some time ago when they moved themselves to B team. Both came roaring back into the leagues after slumps.
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Finally
i wont miss him. but darkelf, wtf? he doesnt suck
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maybe someone from team B can tell him what the hotkey for adrenal glands is :<
- only hoping for the best
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On June 26 2008 07:41 clazziquai wrote:
Savior, I understand
But why Darkelf?
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On June 26 2008 12:30 Dr.Dragoon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2008 11:49 B1nary wrote:On June 26 2008 11:21 Dr.Dragoon wrote:On June 26 2008 10:26 ForAdun wrote:On June 26 2008 09:39 HaLLeBaRy wrote:On June 26 2008 08:29 ForAdun wrote:On June 26 2008 08:13 LosingID8 wrote:
fomos article seems to say that moving savior to the B-team was a coaching decision, not voluntary.
it also says that B-team life in CJ Entus is much stricter. mandatory 10 hours a day of practice, internet use is prohibited other than freetime, etc.
it also states that savior will remain on the B-team until he gets past the qualifiers of both the MSL and OSL. 10 hours... no wonder CJ members are all so pale compared to say KTF or SKT members. 10 hours is too much, it can destroy someone's health completely. It's also no wonder that every team has about 10 hours practice time LOL OWNED 8 hours in team Estro. What owned...? ... estro gets like 11.5 hours practice I think Idra posted a little while ago that it was 10.5. I don't remember which thread it was in. Show nested quote +On June 18 2008 00:14 IdrA wrote:
im not sure where the 8 hours thing started, i think i must have misspoken in my interview.
we have 11.5 hours scheduled practice 6 days a week, and most people practice on their own on free days/during free time.
What the, I thought team Estro seemed more interested in having healthy gamers from what Daniel Lee said in an interview. Guess I was wrong, they're even practicing in their free time? They're stupid, and the coaches have to read some good books about learning. The learning effect ends after about 7-8 hours of practice/day no matter what you're learning. Muscle memory stops at about 6 hours already. That's a protective function from the brain, it starts filtering most of the information and even though you can still think and understand you can't memorize most of it anymore.
The only reason they keep playing after 8 hours is that they're addicted. They don't know what else to do. They should better use the 2 extra hours for sports/exercises/rest/anything but not gaming.
This is retarded. That way they definitely will destroy their own health, step by step.
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On June 26 2008 20:13 ForAdun wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2008 12:30 Dr.Dragoon wrote:On June 26 2008 11:49 B1nary wrote:On June 26 2008 11:21 Dr.Dragoon wrote:On June 26 2008 10:26 ForAdun wrote:On June 26 2008 09:39 HaLLeBaRy wrote:On June 26 2008 08:29 ForAdun wrote:On June 26 2008 08:13 LosingID8 wrote:
fomos article seems to say that moving savior to the B-team was a coaching decision, not voluntary.
it also says that B-team life in CJ Entus is much stricter. mandatory 10 hours a day of practice, internet use is prohibited other than freetime, etc.
it also states that savior will remain on the B-team until he gets past the qualifiers of both the MSL and OSL. 10 hours... no wonder CJ members are all so pale compared to say KTF or SKT members. 10 hours is too much, it can destroy someone's health completely. It's also no wonder that every team has about 10 hours practice time LOL OWNED 8 hours in team Estro. What owned...? ... estro gets like 11.5 hours practice I think Idra posted a little while ago that it was 10.5. I don't remember which thread it was in. On June 18 2008 00:14 IdrA wrote:
im not sure where the 8 hours thing started, i think i must have misspoken in my interview.
we have 11.5 hours scheduled practice 6 days a week, and most people practice on their own on free days/during free time. What the, I thought team Estro seemed more interested in having healthy gamers from what Daniel Lee said in an interview. Guess I was wrong, they're even practicing in their free time? They're stupid, and the coaches have to read some good books about learning. The learning effect ends after about 7-8 hours of practice/day no matter what you're learning. Muscle memory stops at about 6 hours already. That's a protective function from the brain, it starts filtering most of the information and even though you can still think and understand you can't memorize most of it anymore. The only reason they keep playing after 8 hours is that they're addicted. They don't know what else to do. They should better use the 2 extra hours for sports/exercises/rest/anything but not gaming. This is retarded. That way they definitely will destroy their own health, step by step.
lol since when is there a restriction to learning? Where did you get this nonsense
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wah, gl savior
thats all im gonna say
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On June 26 2008 20:27 HaLLeBaRy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2008 20:13 ForAdun wrote:On June 26 2008 12:30 Dr.Dragoon wrote:On June 26 2008 11:49 B1nary wrote:On June 26 2008 11:21 Dr.Dragoon wrote:On June 26 2008 10:26 ForAdun wrote:On June 26 2008 09:39 HaLLeBaRy wrote:On June 26 2008 08:29 ForAdun wrote:On June 26 2008 08:13 LosingID8 wrote:
fomos article seems to say that moving savior to the B-team was a coaching decision, not voluntary.
it also says that B-team life in CJ Entus is much stricter. mandatory 10 hours a day of practice, internet use is prohibited other than freetime, etc.
it also states that savior will remain on the B-team until he gets past the qualifiers of both the MSL and OSL. 10 hours... no wonder CJ members are all so pale compared to say KTF or SKT members. 10 hours is too much, it can destroy someone's health completely. It's also no wonder that every team has about 10 hours practice time LOL OWNED 8 hours in team Estro. What owned...? ... estro gets like 11.5 hours practice I think Idra posted a little while ago that it was 10.5. I don't remember which thread it was in. On June 18 2008 00:14 IdrA wrote:
im not sure where the 8 hours thing started, i think i must have misspoken in my interview.
we have 11.5 hours scheduled practice 6 days a week, and most people practice on their own on free days/during free time. What the, I thought team Estro seemed more interested in having healthy gamers from what Daniel Lee said in an interview. Guess I was wrong, they're even practicing in their free time? They're stupid, and the coaches have to read some good books about learning. The learning effect ends after about 7-8 hours of practice/day no matter what you're learning. Muscle memory stops at about 6 hours already. That's a protective function from the brain, it starts filtering most of the information and even though you can still think and understand you can't memorize most of it anymore. The only reason they keep playing after 8 hours is that they're addicted. They don't know what else to do. They should better use the 2 extra hours for sports/exercises/rest/anything but not gaming. This is retarded. That way they definitely will destroy their own health, step by step. lol since when is there a restriction to learning? Where did you get this nonsense
Common sense, I went to school just like you. 10 hours of gaming makes 35-40 games/day not including time to analyze. If you want to improve your play you have to analyze some of your own games and you should analyze games from other gamers as well, I hope you agree on that. IdrA never talked about analyzing games so I exclude it from the learning process which reduces the overall improvement by about 20-30%. If they build in time to analyze games they have to reduce something else. What should they reduce? Practice? Exercise? Sports? Rest? Free time?
ps: it is also a fact that everyone needs a different amount of sleep. Usually I need 7:00 - 7:30 hours and if I always sleep 7:00 I start getting stressed, if I always sleep 7:30 I get too relaxed, I have to mix it.
Some people need more sleep, some need less. Finding out how much sleep you need is possible only if you try out different lengths, each for a few weeks.
You also have to consider that most people don't fall asleep in a split second. Usually it takes 10+ minutes, some people need more.
Eating time shall not be seen as rest time. Whenever you ate something you should not have to use your brain too much directly afterwards because your digestion is busy. It's a saying that your guts are your second brain which is actually true in some way.
Sport improves your learning. Sport also keeps you fit and healthy. If you do 1 hour of sports every day you should be fine but that's only for your fitness and health (and it's only the minimum, don't forget). Say you want to work out your upper body you must add exercise time of 1 hour every day.
Sports should be done in the early morning before breakfast when your energy is high. Exercise should be done a few hours after lunch.
That makes 2 hours of training plus 1 hour of eating. Add 10 hours of practice. Add 2 hours of rest. Add at least 7 hours of sleep but probably 1 hour more. 1 hour is left for analysis and free time.
Conclusion: If you want to stay fit, work out, practice, rest, analyze and sleep enough you have no free time and you will most likely go crazy.
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On June 26 2008 20:13 ForAdun wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2008 12:30 Dr.Dragoon wrote:On June 26 2008 11:49 B1nary wrote:On June 26 2008 11:21 Dr.Dragoon wrote:On June 26 2008 10:26 ForAdun wrote:On June 26 2008 09:39 HaLLeBaRy wrote:On June 26 2008 08:29 ForAdun wrote:On June 26 2008 08:13 LosingID8 wrote:
fomos article seems to say that moving savior to the B-team was a coaching decision, not voluntary.
it also says that B-team life in CJ Entus is much stricter. mandatory 10 hours a day of practice, internet use is prohibited other than freetime, etc.
it also states that savior will remain on the B-team until he gets past the qualifiers of both the MSL and OSL. 10 hours... no wonder CJ members are all so pale compared to say KTF or SKT members. 10 hours is too much, it can destroy someone's health completely. It's also no wonder that every team has about 10 hours practice time LOL OWNED 8 hours in team Estro. What owned...? ... estro gets like 11.5 hours practice I think Idra posted a little while ago that it was 10.5. I don't remember which thread it was in. On June 18 2008 00:14 IdrA wrote:
im not sure where the 8 hours thing started, i think i must have misspoken in my interview.
we have 11.5 hours scheduled practice 6 days a week, and most people practice on their own on free days/during free time. What the, I thought team Estro seemed more interested in having healthy gamers from what Daniel Lee said in an interview. Guess I was wrong, they're even practicing in their free time? They're stupid, and the coaches have to read some good books about learning. The learning effect ends after about 7-8 hours of practice/day no matter what you're learning. Muscle memory stops at about 6 hours already. That's a protective function from the brain, it starts filtering most of the information and even though you can still think and understand you can't memorize most of it anymore. The only reason they keep playing after 8 hours is that they're addicted. They don't know what else to do. They should better use the 2 extra hours for sports/exercises/rest/anything but not gaming. This is retarded. That way they definitely will destroy their own health, step by step.
The koreans aint stupid you know... they would do anything to get the best out of their players, if anyone would know the limit of these pros it would be the coach and players themselves. I would agree that once you reach 8 hours+ of studying it would definitely be harder to take in information, but that doesnt mean your brain just totally died at that point. Slower input... but its still input non the less, this is what makes koreans more gosu in SC than the rest of the world. Back when I was in school I had 8 hours of "official" classes, plus another 4 hours of extra classes.. its the normal thing to do here if you want to be ahead of your class... so saying its impossible to take more than 8 hours of studying is certaintly wrong.
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Really, ForAdun, go and show those dumbazz'z how it's done the healthy way! Show them you know better!
Oh, the hilarity of an interwebz forum, eh?
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