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[OFFICIAL] Savior dropped to CJ Team B!! - Page 6

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KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
June 26 2008 04:09 GMT
#101
Good thing to hear!
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
June 26 2008 04:11 GMT
#102
On June 26 2008 12:57 Vasoline73 wrote:
Good for Savior. This will only make him better like Much and Xellos


Or crush his spirit completely. I think sAvior is done. I'm waiting for him to become a coach.
Every time Jung Myung Hoon builds a vulture, two probes die. || My post count was a palindrome and I was never posting again.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
June 26 2008 04:23 GMT
#103
I thought teams practiced 14 hours. And savior never did well in 2v2 games
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-26 04:27:24
June 26 2008 04:25 GMT
#104
savior.justgotowned.com
Fish_Baguettes
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia589 Posts
June 26 2008 04:33 GMT
#105
Watching a former bonjwa and one of the best SC players in the world go to the B team is just devastating. But once again like many other people have said, this just proves that Starcraft is an active and constantly changing field where faster, dedicated players will push the past pro's to lift their game or be left behind.

The fact that it wasn't Savior's decision to move to the B team but the coach's decision does seem worrying, because unlike Xellos who willingly wished to skill up by going to the B team, will Savior just give up on Starcraft? Personally i hope not.
Elite00fm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States548 Posts
June 26 2008 04:34 GMT
#106
don't the B-team players have to like scrub the floors and do the laundry and other crap work like that?
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
June 26 2008 04:37 GMT
#107
Dosent this mean he'll start to play in the minor leauges vs other b team players?
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Tinithor
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1552 Posts
June 26 2008 04:41 GMT
#108
Savior looks like he gave up starcraft a long time ago to me...
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TheOvermind77
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States923 Posts
June 26 2008 04:43 GMT
#109
Even six gallons of Heaven Hill vodka won't give you this bad of a hangover. He is done for...goodbye, Maestro...
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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10830 Posts
June 26 2008 04:45 GMT
#110
On June 26 2008 13:37 Scaramanga wrote:
Dosent this mean he'll start to play in the minor leauges vs other b team players?

no, you have to have played under X (not sure of the exact number) amount of A-matches to be able to play on B-leagues.

obviously savior has played more than X amount of A-matches.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 26 2008 04:50 GMT
#111
To put things in perspective, Ho Jing Ho, Kang Min and Reach have not been demoted.

But Ma Jae Yoon has.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
June 26 2008 04:52 GMT
#112
Aw man. Let's hope he uses this time to practice and come back to dominance. The way I see it, his slump is mostly psychological and started with Bisu 3-0ing him. Come back Maestro!
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Ash
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Malaysia1978 Posts
June 26 2008 05:07 GMT
#113
On June 26 2008 13:50 Southlight wrote:
To put things in perspective, Ho Jing Ho, Kang Min and Reach have not been demoted.

But Ma Jae Yoon has.


this is part of the reasons why Goodfriend hates KTF so much
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
June 26 2008 05:08 GMT
#114
On June 26 2008 13:50 Southlight wrote:
To put things in perspective, Ho Jing Ho, Kang Min and Reach have not been demoted.

But Ma Jae Yoon has.


Though I'm not saying you don't have a point regardless, it is worth noting that CJ and KTF are not the same team or coached by the same people. :p

KTF is partly fueled by name/aesthetic power, after all. : x Demoting deeply rooted, good looking advertising/fangirl machines would probably be a bad idea.
Think. :)
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 26 2008 05:15 GMT
#115
Oh I know, it's just amazing how far Ma Jae Yoon has fallen, I think the only other player that's been slogged that far down after string of grand success is July.

Ironically, another zerg.

I mean think about it, what multiple-title-holding player, other than MJY, has been forcibly demoted? Not even July, who got dumped around teams for a while, but that's arguably less humiliating. I mean, we're not talking about "We're hoping he becomes good again soon, and sometimes he'll pull out a win in PL, too" level of July and even frickin' Casy. Being demoted to B team is basically "so long, you're essentially a detriment to our team." I know it's CJ Powerhouse (-_-) team we're talking about, but still, I have to think this is the finishing blow to Savior.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
June 26 2008 05:20 GMT
#116
So humiliating to him, lets hope he p0wns the minor pl
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
June 26 2008 05:24 GMT
#117
On June 26 2008 14:15 Southlight wrote:
Being demoted to B team is basically "so long, you're essentially a detriment to our team." I know it's CJ Powerhouse (-_-) team we're talking about, but still, I have to think this is the finishing blow to Savior.


To use a common Liquibet phrase:

My head says you're right, but my heart hopes (like hell) not.
Think. :)
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
June 26 2008 05:30 GMT
#118
Nal_ra, Reach and YellOw are far more marketable than Goodfriend. They've been in KTF forever (silly puns) and they're cuter (goes back to the idea of name and marketing purposes 0.o)
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
June 26 2008 05:36 GMT
#119
fuck
fuck
FUCK
asshole...
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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
June 26 2008 05:44 GMT
#120
On June 26 2008 11:57 Wizard wrote:
I don't think he's burned out at all. I think after winning osl, winning msl, winning title after title, he has nothing to work towards. He has no real goals. Added some luxury I would assume being on the A team and being an accomplished player, he probably wasted a lot of time not practicing [while still minimal due to the control on training] and thus has fallen even more. It's a lack of motivation to practice imo, and this is the correct move by the coaching staff to force him back into it.

Yea, I agree with this. I've gone through the same thing but with running.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
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