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Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-26 02:57:42
June 26 2008 02:57 GMT
#81
On June 26 2008 11:17 Jumperer wrote:
savior is burned out and he need to take a break. CJ is going to ruin him completely with this move. You can't just practice 24/7 at something without burning out completely.

I don't think he's burned out at all. I think after winning osl, winning msl, winning title after title, he has nothing to work towards. He has no real goals. Added some luxury I would assume being on the A team and being an accomplished player, he probably wasted a lot of time not practicing [while still minimal due to the control on training] and thus has fallen even more. It's a lack of motivation to practice imo, and this is the correct move by the coaching staff to force him back into it.
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
June 26 2008 02:58 GMT
#82
It's demoralizing loosing over and over again to the same player. Maybe next season they'll make the maps super zerg friendly and savior will return
Live to win.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
June 26 2008 03:00 GMT
#83
On June 26 2008 11:57 Wizard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2008 11:17 Jumperer wrote:
savior is burned out and he need to take a break. CJ is going to ruin him completely with this move. You can't just practice 24/7 at something without burning out completely.

I don't think he's burned out at all. I think after winning osl, winning msl, winning title after title, he has nothing to work towards.


Beating Firebathero so badly he cries? I think that's probably on his list.
TW WiNNinG 54
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States250 Posts
June 26 2008 03:06 GMT
#84
Dude! I totally called this.
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=72028&currentpage=2#21

I think this will be good for Savior. He will be at least to brush up. Get his drive back. A week of washing floors will tip him up in shape ^^. I think B-Team is better than not playing at all. Savior can be reborn when he owns in SC2 (if hes around). Has Darkelf been struggling? Didnt notice.

At least itll open up my B League dream match of Savior v Idra. Savior ftw.
Keep fighting Savior! Ull get back there.
Keep Fighting Savior!!! U can do it!
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
June 26 2008 03:07 GMT
#85
On June 26 2008 11:10 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2008 11:08 gnuvince wrote:
I started watching the Pro Starcraft a couple months after his defeat to Bisu, so I don't know how hot he was before, but I sure hope to get to see that.


He was very, very, very hot.
+ Show Spoiler +



Yeah, but you really had to actually watch a full game of him playing to see it all. He was a master at the waiting and timing games, which fell through after his crushing defeat to Bisu. He played smart and seemingly intuitively during those times...

I hope the move to the B team helps. I really, really, realllllly do.

O, and I can't remember exactly when it happened (I think it was after the loss to Bisu, actually), but this is something I would definitely put in a Savior highlight:

Before this video starts, the Terran finds the base at one o'clock. Savior has four Lurks up in that area, two of which he burrows to catch the M&M moving towards the base. I'll call them Distractions. The other two he sends up higher, and burrows nearby the natural. I'll call them Surprise Sex. STC moves his M&M force up, and retreats upon being fired at by Distractions, the ones further out.

After STC retreats, Savior unburrows Distractions and puts them on top of the ramp. This is where the video (and the Surprise Sexing) starts.



I'd also highly recommend checking out VODs of his OSL games, namely the oft mentioned Savior vs Iris Game 5 and the entire vs Nada finals.

(Each of those is a link to games. :p)
Think. :)
YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
June 26 2008 03:07 GMT
#86
If all the gosus are inB team for CJ, whos in A team the coach? Rofl
sMi.Gladstone | BW: B high| SC2: gold T_T
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
June 26 2008 03:09 GMT
#87
--- Nuked ---
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
June 26 2008 03:14 GMT
#88
On June 26 2008 08:43 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2008 08:35 OhThatDang wrote:
maybe hell get the adrenaline rush


for once.

ba dum psh*


hahaha i hope so too
Teamliquidian townie
Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
June 26 2008 03:14 GMT
#89
So sad. I still believe, always will.
Make a lot of friends. Wear good clothes. Drink good beer. Love a nice girl.
Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
June 26 2008 03:30 GMT
#90
On June 26 2008 11:49 B1nary wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2008 11:21 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
On June 26 2008 10:26 ForAdun wrote:
On June 26 2008 09:39 HaLLeBaRy wrote:
On June 26 2008 08:29 ForAdun wrote:
On June 26 2008 08:13 LosingID8 wrote:
fomos article seems to say that moving savior to the B-team was a coaching decision, not voluntary.

it also says that B-team life in CJ Entus is much stricter. mandatory 10 hours a day of practice, internet use is prohibited other than freetime, etc.

it also states that savior will remain on the B-team until he gets past the qualifiers of both the MSL and OSL.


10 hours... no wonder CJ members are all so pale compared to say KTF or SKT members.
10 hours is too much, it can destroy someone's health completely.


It's also no wonder that every team has about 10 hours practice time LOL
OWNED


8 hours in team Estro. What owned...? ...

estro gets like 11.5 hours practice I think


Idra posted a little while ago that it was 10.5. I don't remember which thread it was in.

On June 18 2008 00:14 IdrA wrote:
im not sure where the 8 hours thing started, i think i must have misspoken in my interview.
we have 11.5 hours scheduled practice 6 days a week, and most people practice on their own on free days/during free time.
~o~ I have returned
HaLLeBaRy
Profile Joined May 2008
Turkey340 Posts
June 26 2008 03:30 GMT
#91
On June 26 2008 12:07 MTF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2008 11:10 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On June 26 2008 11:08 gnuvince wrote:
I started watching the Pro Starcraft a couple months after his defeat to Bisu, so I don't know how hot he was before, but I sure hope to get to see that.


He was very, very, very hot.
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqdt5sHcxls


Yeah, but you really had to actually watch a full game of him playing to see it all. He was a master at the waiting and timing games, which fell through after his crushing defeat to Bisu. He played smart and seemingly intuitively during those times...

I hope the move to the B team helps. I really, really, realllllly do.

O, and I can't remember exactly when it happened (I think it was after the loss to Bisu, actually), but this is something I would definitely put in a Savior highlight:

Before this video starts, the Terran finds the base at one o'clock. Savior has four Lurks up in that area, two of which he burrows to catch the M&M moving towards the base. I'll call them Distractions. The other two he sends up higher, and burrows nearby the natural. I'll call them Surprise Sex. STC moves his M&M force up, and retreats upon being fired at by Distractions, the ones further out.

After STC retreats, Savior unburrows Distractions and puts them on top of the ramp. This is where the video (and the Surprise Sexing) starts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hH2Wl168qE

I'd also highly recommend checking out VODs of his OSL games, namely the oft mentioned Savior vs Iris Game 5 and the entire vs Nada finals.

(Each of those is a link to games. :p)

was that against hwasin? it sais stx for the other team
HaLLeBaRy
Profile Joined May 2008
Turkey340 Posts
June 26 2008 03:31 GMT
#92
On June 26 2008 12:30 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2008 11:49 B1nary wrote:
On June 26 2008 11:21 Dr.Dragoon wrote:
On June 26 2008 10:26 ForAdun wrote:
On June 26 2008 09:39 HaLLeBaRy wrote:
On June 26 2008 08:29 ForAdun wrote:
On June 26 2008 08:13 LosingID8 wrote:
fomos article seems to say that moving savior to the B-team was a coaching decision, not voluntary.

it also says that B-team life in CJ Entus is much stricter. mandatory 10 hours a day of practice, internet use is prohibited other than freetime, etc.

it also states that savior will remain on the B-team until he gets past the qualifiers of both the MSL and OSL.


10 hours... no wonder CJ members are all so pale compared to say KTF or SKT members.
10 hours is too much, it can destroy someone's health completely.


It's also no wonder that every team has about 10 hours practice time LOL
OWNED


8 hours in team Estro. What owned...? ...

estro gets like 11.5 hours practice I think


Idra posted a little while ago that it was 10.5. I don't remember which thread it was in.

Show nested quote +
On June 18 2008 00:14 IdrA wrote:
im not sure where the 8 hours thing started, i think i must have misspoken in my interview.
we have 11.5 hours scheduled practice 6 days a week, and most people practice on their own on free days/during free time.

adun got destroyed

owned~
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
June 26 2008 03:48 GMT
#93
On June 26 2008 10:33 tKd_ wrote:
soon ggplay will be B team too i bet


GGplay doesnt even deserve to be in team C.... if CJ has one

Poor maestro though, did he get kicked out of his room?
..
Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
June 26 2008 03:50 GMT
#94
wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww......... how the mighty have fallen
https://twitter.com/quanticfograw
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
June 26 2008 03:52 GMT
#95
On June 26 2008 12:48 dinmsab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2008 10:33 tKd_ wrote:
soon ggplay will be B team too i bet


GGplay doesnt even deserve to be in team C.... if CJ has one

Poor maestro though, did he get kicked out of his room?


almost certainly
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
June 26 2008 03:53 GMT
#96
On June 26 2008 07:27 BlackStar wrote:
What does this mean exactly? Does this mean Savior will practice vs other B team players rather than A team? If so, is that really better for him?

Will winning in training vs weaker players or practicing more really fix his problem? I mean, what is his problem?


What I'd think is self confidence regained?

Maybe he'll be like wtf... these fucking noobs suck.. I am an A player baby and more ^_^
w/e
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7816 Posts
June 26 2008 03:57 GMT
#97
Good for Savior. This will only make him better like Much and Xellos
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 26 2008 04:02 GMT
#98
On June 26 2008 12:30 HaLLeBaRy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2008 12:07 MTF wrote:
On June 26 2008 11:10 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On June 26 2008 11:08 gnuvince wrote:
I started watching the Pro Starcraft a couple months after his defeat to Bisu, so I don't know how hot he was before, but I sure hope to get to see that.


He was very, very, very hot.
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqdt5sHcxls


Yeah, but you really had to actually watch a full game of him playing to see it all. He was a master at the waiting and timing games, which fell through after his crushing defeat to Bisu. He played smart and seemingly intuitively during those times...

I hope the move to the B team helps. I really, really, realllllly do.

O, and I can't remember exactly when it happened (I think it was after the loss to Bisu, actually), but this is something I would definitely put in a Savior highlight:

Before this video starts, the Terran finds the base at one o'clock. Savior has four Lurks up in that area, two of which he burrows to catch the M&M moving towards the base. I'll call them Distractions. The other two he sends up higher, and burrows nearby the natural. I'll call them Surprise Sex. STC moves his M&M force up, and retreats upon being fired at by Distractions, the ones further out.

After STC retreats, Savior unburrows Distractions and puts them on top of the ramp. This is where the video (and the Surprise Sexing) starts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hH2Wl168qE

I'd also highly recommend checking out VODs of his OSL games, namely the oft mentioned Savior vs Iris Game 5 and the entire vs Nada finals.

(Each of those is a link to games. :p)

was that against hwasin? it sais stx for the other team


Against TheStC[GnH] aka 52Layla[GnH]

On June 26 2008 12:06 TW WiNNinG 54 wrote:


At least itll open up my B League dream match of Savior v Idra. Savior ftw.


Have you looked at the WWI Day 1 match list? sAviOr vs IdrA is going to be played.

ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
KingFool
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada428 Posts
June 26 2008 04:05 GMT
#99
Everyone who sees this as a negative thing, does so because they no longer have faith that the maestro can make a come back.
Stimin myself on a daily basis
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
June 26 2008 04:08 GMT
#100
On June 26 2008 12:30 HaLLeBaRy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2008 12:07 MTF wrote:
On June 26 2008 11:10 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On June 26 2008 11:08 gnuvince wrote:
I started watching the Pro Starcraft a couple months after his defeat to Bisu, so I don't know how hot he was before, but I sure hope to get to see that.


He was very, very, very hot.
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqdt5sHcxls


Yeah, but you really had to actually watch a full game of him playing to see it all. He was a master at the waiting and timing games, which fell through after his crushing defeat to Bisu. He played smart and seemingly intuitively during those times...

I hope the move to the B team helps. I really, really, realllllly do.

O, and I can't remember exactly when it happened (I think it was after the loss to Bisu, actually), but this is something I would definitely put in a Savior highlight:

Before this video starts, the Terran finds the base at one o'clock. Savior has four Lurks up in that area, two of which he burrows to catch the M&M moving towards the base. I'll call them Distractions. The other two he sends up higher, and burrows nearby the natural. I'll call them Surprise Sex. STC moves his M&M force up, and retreats upon being fired at by Distractions, the ones further out.

After STC retreats, Savior unburrows Distractions and puts them on top of the ramp. This is where the video (and the Surprise Sexing) starts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hH2Wl168qE

I'd also highly recommend checking out VODs of his OSL games, namely the oft mentioned Savior vs Iris Game 5 and the entire vs Nada finals.

(Each of those is a link to games. :p)

was that against hwasin? it sais stx for the other team


It was against (T)TheStC.
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