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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33584 Posts
January 21 2008 06:45 GMT
#1
Was browsing PGR21.com as usual, came across some tidbits. All the links are in Korean, so don't bother if you can't read them.

First...
http://www.fighterforum.com/news/news_read.asp?cat=ISS&idx=23485

The map Haunted Forest might be on it's way out of the current OSL. The pro teams have expressed their displeasure with the map, in particular the trees in the middle causing units to become stuck under certain circumstances (vultures planting mines, lurkers burrowing/unburrowing in close proximity with other units). OGN is looking into replacing the map mid-season.

Some other posts I've read suggest the map makers were aware of these problems during testing, but OGN approved of the map anyway.


Second
http://itnews.inews24.com/php/news_view.php?g_menu=020500&g_serial=308113

Gretech, the makers of GomPlayer and GomTV, and sponsors of the MSL are interested in becoming a producer and broadcaster of their own progaming content. Already having a studio of their own, they plan to hold a 16 man invitational tournament of the league winners + top kespa rankers of 2007. They are also said to be interested in the broadcasting rights to the proleague, currently shared half and half by OGN and MBCGame.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Aepplet
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden2908 Posts
January 21 2008 06:52 GMT
#2
argh, Haunted Forest looked like an interesting map, sad to hear there were some bugs =(

Also, what's up with Gretech? Do they have a TV-channel or are they looking to broadcast solely over the internet?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
January 21 2008 06:55 GMT
#3
Thanks for the news Wax, interesting about Gretech now wanting to host their own channel/events, probably will be a failure like CJ Superfights though.
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Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
January 21 2008 07:00 GMT
#4
wow cool about the Gretech event and stuff and sad to hear about Haunted Forest and there used to be a failure for CJ Superfights? never knew that
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
January 21 2008 07:01 GMT
#5
This means more new maps right? HURRAY!
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
January 21 2008 07:06 GMT
#6
Maybe we'll see "Haunted Field" soon.
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
January 21 2008 07:06 GMT
#7
I think they should at least remove SOME trees, that forest is WAYYY too crowded.
Do your best, God will do the rest.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-21 07:08:52
January 21 2008 07:07 GMT
#8
If you've actually played Demon's Forest, there are a fuckload of expansions.

edit: i hope they dont remove it, but modify it it heavily, like put an eleveated area in the middle (peaksy style)
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
January 21 2008 07:15 GMT
#9
never was a fan of demon forest..
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
January 21 2008 07:24 GMT
#10
On January 21 2008 16:06 jkillashark wrote:
I think they should at least remove SOME trees, that forest is WAYYY too crowded.

yeah my unit pathing always gets messed up

boo gretech
daum > gretech ><
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33584 Posts
January 21 2008 07:31 GMT
#11
On January 21 2008 15:55 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Thanks for the news Wax, interesting about Gretech now wanting to host their own channel/events, probably will be a failure like CJ Superfights though.


amusingly enough, I think CJ is the majority shareholder in Gretech by a gigantic margin
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
January 21 2008 07:40 GMT
#12
On January 21 2008 16:31 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2008 15:55 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Thanks for the news Wax, interesting about Gretech now wanting to host their own channel/events, probably will be a failure like CJ Superfights though.


amusingly enough, I think CJ is the majority shareholder in Gretech by a gigantic margin


haha thats funny, maybe CJ is trying to launch its gaming channel through a different company.
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HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
January 21 2008 08:03 GMT
#13
On January 21 2008 16:31 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2008 15:55 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Thanks for the news Wax, interesting about Gretech now wanting to host their own channel/events, probably will be a failure like CJ Superfights though.


amusingly enough, I think CJ is the majority shareholder in Gretech by a gigantic margin


CJ has 24.5%, which is the largest share to a single entity. (Second: the CEO of Gretech, with 10.1%

However, in terms of CJ (24.5) versus the Gretech executives (35.8% all together) CJ's not really in a place to be calling the shots.
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Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
January 21 2008 08:33 GMT
#14
Interesting news. Thanks for the update..

Do the trees cause miss chance without foliage, btw? Or are they just there to limit vision?
aka Moletrap
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 21 2008 08:43 GMT
#15
yeah fuck demons forest looked like a piece of shit
but wouldn't it be so unfair for the people that had to play on it -_-
like yellow[arnc] and rock and w/e -. -a lol
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
pachi
Profile Joined October 2006
Melbourne5338 Posts
January 21 2008 09:20 GMT
#16
Is the GomTV the same as this: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=46184&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 21 2008 09:28 GMT
#17
They will probably keep the map untill the ro16 is over then bring back fantasy (i presume)

The map is fucking hard to play on though =/
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
January 21 2008 09:33 GMT
#18
Fantasy would be worse
aka Moletrap
Jonteman
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden644 Posts
January 21 2008 09:41 GMT
#19
invite old schools!
and bisu!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
January 21 2008 09:59 GMT
#20
On January 21 2008 18:33 f10esqftw wrote:
Fantasy would be worse


atleast it doesnt have alot of trees which glitch units
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semioldguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States7488 Posts
January 21 2008 10:10 GMT
#21
Top16 KeSPA will be an amazing tournament. Any champions will likely be in the top 16 though already. It'll be like WCG Korea, but with less chaff (not to say that 17-22 are chaff, but top 16 is just so much power.

Also sad to hear bad news about Demon Forest. Hopefully they just modify the map to help pathing rather than chuck it all together. Don't expect a new map though, they will bring in a previously used (and likely fair) map to replace it if they do.
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doc.x
Profile Joined December 2007
94 Posts
January 21 2008 10:26 GMT
#22
why not just edit the map so there are trees but they don't disrupt movement? should be easy to do with some of the advanced map editors. the trees will still provide cover and disrupt line of sight, but they won't disrupt movement.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
January 21 2008 11:01 GMT
#23
I would take the glitching middle in Demon's forest over Katrina.
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dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
January 21 2008 11:15 GMT
#24
i like the idea of "haunted forest" lol. i think the map is still usable if we stop being a tree hugger and support the paper industry.
...from the land of imba
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 21 2008 11:29 GMT
#25
On January 21 2008 20:01 IntoTheWow wrote:
I would take the glitching middle in Demon's forest over Katrina.


NO WAI
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
January 21 2008 11:32 GMT
#26
I agree, take away demon forest and bring PYTHON T_T
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51574 Posts
January 21 2008 13:19 GMT
#27
Bringing back a generic, four-player, Luna like macro map?

FUCK NO
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Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
January 21 2008 13:35 GMT
#28
On January 21 2008 20:32 DragoonPK wrote:
I agree, take away demon forest and bring PYTHON T_T


haha oh gawd no!

Just put some more space in between. I tought the trees idea was really cool but without the trees it looks kinda crappy and too organised. I tought it was more random wich would have been a lot cooler.
Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
January 21 2008 13:54 GMT
#29
You could make the forest smaller so that there are clean ways around it. Then you could actually use the forest to hide.
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
January 21 2008 16:13 GMT
#30
I was more hoping for a new KT-KTFesque tournament with everyone playing everyone. Top 16 KeSPA sounds nice anyway. Thanks for the news!
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 21 2008 16:20 GMT
#31
at least python was balanced
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
January 21 2008 16:25 GMT
#32
On January 22 2008 01:20 fusionsdf wrote:
at least Python was balanced


Please
Look at the stats
All the Matchups were 40/60%, it was a Terran map, the number of the mirror matches prove it

56 TvTs on Python
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Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
January 21 2008 18:27 GMT
#33
bring back DMZ gogogogogogo
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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
January 21 2008 18:36 GMT
#34
just spread the trees out more... make them two large units apart instead of one. I really don't want to see that map go just yet.
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
January 21 2008 19:37 GMT
#35
On January 21 2008 18:59 GTR-2-Go wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2008 18:33 f10esqftw wrote:
Fantasy would be worse


atleast it doesnt have alot of trees which glitch units



Well, I guess I don't know how bad things glitch.. I was just thinking that sometimes vultures got stuck for a couple seconds or something, but they will even do that sometimes going around buildings or other units anyways.

If it's worse than that, then it might be a big deal, but the spawn imba on Fantasy just pisses me off...
aka Moletrap
Steelflight-Rx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1389 Posts
January 22 2008 01:36 GMT
#36
Honestly i think they should just remove some of the trees, i think this map is really cool and innovative, and opens up a lot more strategies that we haven't seen before (i mean he went fcking parasite!! xD badass!) ..thats my two cents.
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