EPTFlash On JaeDongs ASL Struggles & Perseverance
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jinjin5000
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iFU.pauline
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jinjin5000
United States1449 Posts
On September 30 2025 03:43 iFU.pauline wrote: Thanks for the translation. Btw, who is Gu-Yeol? it was on tl note, ASL organizer and former pro who went by 910 | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7913 Posts
On September 30 2025 03:48 jinjin5000 wrote: it was on tl note, ASL organizer and former pro who went by 910 I remember him, he was a Terran for Hero or something? No idea he was involved in the organizing of ASL. | ||
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RogueTheGOAT
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I personally like to think that he has nightmares about his 2013 SC2 WCS Global Finals series with sOs every time he has to play offline. It isn't Jaedong's fault, but hearing casters flat out root for him to win makes me an anti-fan. | ||
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jinjin5000
United States1449 Posts
On September 30 2025 04:46 RogueTheGOAT wrote: Jaedong was killing it online prior to this ASL, so there is a decent chance he either has health issues that impact his offline play (ByuN in SC2 performs a lot better online than offline due to wrist issues and home vs. studio setup) or he feels pressure in his 30s in a way he didn't when he was winning 8 premier tournaments. I personally like to think that he has nightmares about his 2013 SC2 WCS Global Finals series with sOs every time he has to play offline. It isn't Jaedong's fault, but hearing casters flat out root for him to win makes me an anti-fan. He admitted it was one of those days where he's "playing so bad he's guaranteed to lose no matter what". JD knew Mini wasn't in best form but he felt helpless against it since his condition that day was the worst and he knew he'd lose despite Mini's form. Seems to be mental block | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines581 Posts
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TornadoSteve
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prosatan
Romania8336 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66307 Posts
On September 30 2025 06:28 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: i was hoping jaedong's back-to-back race war all-kill form would last a bit longer, but sadly didn't last until the ASL match for whatever reason https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/KCM/Race_Survival/2025/3 that 10 game win streak was seriously nuts, and it was so close to ASL too so i was hoping he would advance further but what Flash said, i'm sure JD will eventually win an ASL, his performance has really improved in the last one year | ||
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rotta
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Kespa1988
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Ideas
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Shinokuki
United States923 Posts
On September 30 2025 23:35 Ideas wrote: I figured JD would never have nerves after playing 100s (1000s?) of offline games throughout his life in BW and SC2. But I guess since there's so few offline games for BW now, it makes the pressure so much higher. And someone like JD probably always feel extra pressure to perform since he was once the best in the world. But he hasn't actually won an offline BW event since 2010 iirc. JD is unfortunate case of a player relying so much on his instinct and mechanical plays and he was a real god when he was young and both of his strengths were maxed out. Now that the scene has mellowed out in favor of more macro oriented style, its no question macro style zergs who have also added newer exciting strategies have started winning ASL. JD doesn't have that "macro" base and it is said that he used to not rank in top 5 or even 10 whenever the teams did some practice matchups against themselves and Woongjin zergs always reigned top (queen/Soulkey). JD also has habits from his glorious days he can't shake off whenever he's in critical moment. It seems like its hard wired in him to micro in a certain way or make split second decision. It may have worked back then when his decision making/micro was instanteous and step ahead of his opponent but not anymore. I'm just happy he's still participating. His mentality is easily the best among all pros IMO. | ||
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Ideas
United States8128 Posts
On September 30 2025 23:55 Shinokuki wrote: JD is unfortunate case of a player relying so much on his instinct and mechanical plays and he was a real god when he was young and both of his strengths were maxed out. Now that the scene has mellowed out in favor of more macro oriented style, its no question macro style zergs who have also added newer exciting strategies have started winning ASL. JD doesn't have that "macro" base and it is said that he used to not rank in top 5 or even 10 whenever the teams did some practice matchups against themselves and Woongjin zergs always reigned top (queen/Soulkey). JD also has habits from his glorious days he can't shake off whenever he's in critical moment. It seems like its hard wired in him to micro in a certain way or make split second decision. It may have worked back then when his decision making/micro was instanteous and step ahead of his opponent but not anymore. I'm just happy he's still participating. His mentality is easily the best among all pros IMO. I'm pretty sure you're mistaken about him doing bad in internal rankings. In the Ginuda interview that jinjin posted the other month he said he would go 36-0 in internal ranking matches. | ||
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Shinokuki
United States923 Posts
On October 01 2025 02:31 Ideas wrote: I'm pretty sure you're mistaken about him doing bad in internal rankings. In the Ginuda interview that jinjin posted the other month he said he would go 36-0 in internal ranking matches. I think i said that wrong. I meant like cross internal ranking matches. Yes he would easily rank top in his own team but when combining with other teams he would rank outside of top 5 | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13181 Posts
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Uldridge
Belgium4903 Posts
That, at least for me, was how prime JD operated and now you barely see that coming out when it matters, although his recent ASL entries had glimpses of that. This doubt started at the tail end of Kespa, when he started getting smacked by Flash. No doubt that, if he ever finds it again, he will be very scary once again. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8709 Posts
On October 01 2025 09:04 Shinokuki wrote: I think i said that wrong. I meant like cross internal ranking matches. Yes he would easily rank top in his own team but when combining with other teams he would rank outside of top 5 source? seems full of shit | ||
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iFU.pauline
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Kespa1988
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88)trAncE
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On October 02 2025 03:47 Kespa1988 wrote: JD just casually beat Bisu today, 4-1 in bo7 showmatch , only losing game after canon rush, after like 1week of inactive. Salut, ou peut-on voit le match ? Merci | ||
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LUCKY_NOOB
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Kespa1988
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https://vod.sooplive.co.kr/player/173612723?change_second=12625 | ||
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oBlade
United States5724 Posts
On October 01 2025 17:39 iFU.pauline wrote: Imo there is no need to overthink it. Jaedong stated explicitly in past videos that he doesn't have the same drive to win as before but he will not let his skill drop too much. He also stated that during his peak years, he was not a human, more like an AI training non stop. Pretty sure he is no where near that approach anymore. On top of that he is at an age where he probably would like to meet someone, have a family etc... Regardless he still has the best macro as zerg with effort and soma not being far from him, but his screen still moves twice faster than anyone, I swear bro has a 10 terabytes bandwidth between neurones. That's no excuse, PirateZerg could do it and he was active around the same time. | ||
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prosatan
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands979 Posts
On October 02 2025 16:22 prosatan wrote: Why is Lucky-noob banned for 30 days ? he showed his penis in a troll post. | ||
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prosatan
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prosatan
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Phyanketto
United States571 Posts
something about one-upping larva's playing with foot | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands979 Posts
On October 03 2025 02:17 Phyanketto wrote: something about one-upping larva's playing with foot Wonder what drugs he was on to think that was a remotely good idea lol. | ||
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