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araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 07:58:24
December 22 2007 01:17 GMT
#1
Hey guys,

I've just made a quick and dirty small program which checks weather your rep/reps are that suspicious ones.
Go on and try it out for your replays.

Some qucik notes from my testing!
It is actually possible to make the first action under the 5 frame!
I've seen some NOT-AT-ALL suspicious reps, where the guy made the command centre selection at 4th frame.
So the "humanly impossible" argument is just nothing. So I've added a parameter to check first N actions to be below a configurable number of frames.

Well, another thing: who is that maestro_pl guy? he seems very-very suspicious during this game:
F:\broodwar\maps\replays\wcg\2007\ITura\wcg\27.07\PvP_maestro_pl-Norad_IV.rep is suspicious: 5
(lol, WCG game?)

the program:
http://rapidshare.de/files/38104247/unobliver.zip.html
edit: for those of you, if the program gives something lie "The program failed to initialize....", try the VC++ 6.0 version, I'll look what the real problem with VC 2005 is later.
http://rapidshare.de/files/38105536/unoblivervc6.zip.html

the maestro replay:
http://www.battlereports.com/viewreplays.php?replaynum=32767
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9949 Posts
December 22 2007 01:21 GMT
#2
wait, does it scan a folder or just a replay?
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 22 2007 01:22 GMT
#3
Downloading, thanks

EDIT : "This application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem"
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Lycaeus
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1420 Posts
December 22 2007 01:23 GMT
#4
the whole folder, though it's a bit bugged, didn't find every replay I had, but most.
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
December 22 2007 01:24 GMT
#5
file and folder - obviously

sorry not willing to type much now, it's 5:30 am here and i am still working :-/
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 22 2007 01:25 GMT
#6
On December 22 2007 10:22 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
This application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem"


Any idea how to alleviate this?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
December 22 2007 01:26 GMT
#7
so who is that maestro guy?

Shollow, it's compiled by vc++ 2005, i think that can be problem with older OSes/frameworks, will compile it later with VC++ 6.0, sorry
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5520 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 02:31:07
December 22 2007 02:26 GMT
#8
This does not scan subfolders, is there any way to make it do so?

Edit: Thats what recursive does! Thanks.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
December 22 2007 02:32 GMT
#9
On December 22 2007 10:22 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Downloading, thanks

EDIT : "This application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem"


same
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5520 Posts
December 22 2007 02:39 GMT
#10
On December 22 2007 11:32 tKd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2007 10:22 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Downloading, thanks

EDIT : "This application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem"


same


Haha now I have the same thing happening on my desktop. Drats. It works on my laptop though!
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5520 Posts
December 22 2007 03:15 GMT
#11
Here is my list of haxX0rz:

cA.Nij
Xel)Eclipse.G
ilove.tQ
loltor
TurnRound-N
waitstop0
ever44
TardCraft
and9
NormaJean
lastsamourai
Option
xxx777

kdhfor1
wjdckdgh0405

Most, if not all, are from east 'cause thats where I play. Not bad considering I had 700+ replays.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 22 2007 03:22 GMT
#12
nice, thank you. Everyone should check all of their replays and post here the hackers, only known ones though would be good
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
December 22 2007 03:23 GMT
#13
On December 22 2007 11:32 tKd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2007 10:22 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Downloading, thanks

EDIT : "This application has failed to start because the application configuration is incorrect. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem"


same


Same for both on Vista and XP
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11584 Posts
December 22 2007 03:30 GMT
#14
ditto
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Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
December 22 2007 03:35 GMT
#15
"The application has failed to start because its side-to-side configuration is incorrect. Please see the application event log for more details."

?!?!
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11584 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 03:37:00
December 22 2007 03:36 GMT
#16
NVM
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Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 03:39:23
December 22 2007 03:38 GMT
#17
I've been wrongly accused of hacking today, by someone I would consider a good bnet friend. But that's cause my response time was 6. I later went on hamachi and did the same thing first time, and made a fpvod of my split with response time of 6, doesnt mean much really.

NVM!
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
chiflutz
Profile Joined June 2006
Romania1025 Posts
December 22 2007 03:52 GMT
#18
Processed: 6145; Good: 6115; Corrupted: 20; Hacks: 10

Thresholds: 2, 5

4 is humanly possible (one action), so I suggest you make it check no. of actions per player.

It found a suspicious rep (5) in which the first actions are at frame 15 o_O
kt violet Korea (South). July 27 2012 15:54. Posts 23
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
December 22 2007 07:59 GMT
#19
updated the first porst and included vc++ 6.0 version

so, nothing about the WCG Poland replay guy? :-/

On December 22 2007 12:52 chiflutz wrote:
Processed: 6145; Good: 6115; Corrupted: 20; Hacks: 10

Thresholds: 2, 5

4 is humanly possible (one action), so I suggest you make it check no. of actions per player.

It found a suspicious rep (5) in which the first actions are at frame 15 o_O


enable Obs
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
Aurious
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1772 Posts
December 22 2007 08:09 GMT
#20
can't find server please re-upload
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 08:40:02
December 22 2007 08:30 GMT
#21
On December 22 2007 16:59 araav wrote:
updated the first porst and included vc++ 6.0 version

so, nothing about the WCG Poland replay guy? :-/

Show nested quote +
On December 22 2007 12:52 chiflutz wrote:
Processed: 6145; Good: 6115; Corrupted: 20; Hacks: 10

Thresholds: 2, 5

4 is humanly possible (one action), so I suggest you make it check no. of actions per player.

It found a suspicious rep (5) in which the first actions are at frame 15 o_O


enable Obs


Cool the new version works. So is it a definite that the person is hacking if "this replay is suspicious" comes up? What does the number beside the replay mean as well? (they were all 5s for me)

[Edit]Nvm I looked in bwchart of the suspicious reps and the opponent splits before the first second has even passed >< Still would like to know what the numbers mean though.

I had the |God|Dream guy turn up in both of the games I played against him where the split is done within the first second.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 11:56:18
December 22 2007 08:35 GMT
#22
Here's my list of random ICCUP hackers (checked each rep individually):
M[o]H-XiaYu
lovisu
FateRun
bonja.
Qcg.Park
aquarel.oo
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
December 22 2007 08:37 GMT
#23
you should forward that with proof to an iccup admin, imo
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
Aurious
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1772 Posts
December 22 2007 08:44 GMT
#24
ok it works now how, what do i put in the fields?
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 22 2007 08:46 GMT
#25
nice job Please maintain / update the device/this thread. If we create awareness that Oblivion is not a safe hack we can at least stop some hackers.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
December 22 2007 08:50 GMT
#26
On December 22 2007 17:37 LumberJack wrote:
you should forward that with proof to an iccup admin, imo

Are there any on TL?
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 08:53:40
December 22 2007 08:51 GMT
#27
On December 22 2007 17:46 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
nice job Please maintain / update the device/this thread. If we create awareness that Oblivion is not a safe hack we can at least stop some hackers.

I highly doubt that, all it will do, is that they will no longer use the detectable features and the hack will be updated, so they are not obvious(i.e. they will scan a database of legit reps and make the hack imitate the real players actions).
I'll call Nada.
ReTrooper
Profile Joined February 2003
Germany526 Posts
December 22 2007 08:52 GMT
#28
Wow, Europe is quite hack free. Checked my 13000 replays, found 3 to be suspicious.
De omnibus dubitandum.
Aurious
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1772 Posts
December 22 2007 08:59 GMT
#29
once again nvm i figured it out XD
nOob
Profile Joined November 2005
Spain120 Posts
December 22 2007 11:02 GMT
#30
woot, 0 hackers here O_O

I dont play ladders tho, so its just pure CW / friendly games
LRM)nOob MgZ)inneoov LRM)DadA DadA(elite)
Taiche *
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
France1963 Posts
December 22 2007 11:08 GMT
#31
araav, about the "application failed to initialize, blahblah" thing, it's because people do not have the Visual 2005 runtime. This can be found at Microsoft's : http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=32BC1BEE-A3F9-4C13-9C99-220B62A191EE

I had this problem too when developing ReXplorer ;p
Manifesto7 Uses ReXplorer, and so should you! : http://repasm.net/rx/
kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
December 22 2007 11:34 GMT
#32
656 games and only 1 hacker... Previously mentioned Kkae_go_su @Iccup
Thx for the program.
I have Sick Timing and UnReal Macro
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15355 Posts
December 22 2007 11:45 GMT
#33
Nice. Is the source / specs what it looks for released too?
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9949 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 12:01:36
December 22 2007 11:51 GMT
#34
Bet.LeiLei on Europe is a hacker.
hes not the real LeiLei, but hes a hacker

edit: oh lol hes a minhacker too
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9949 Posts
December 22 2007 11:53 GMT
#35
it doesnt scan subfolders here though :o
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9949 Posts
December 22 2007 11:56 GMT
#36
hahahaha i remember playing By.KiRa and he refused to tell his non-smurf account. Turns out he hacks.
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 12:37:04
December 22 2007 12:36 GMT
#37
i'm just waiting for CoL.Drake to search through his huge database for* hackers ^^
#1 Kwanro[saM] fan!
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
December 22 2007 13:26 GMT
#38
On December 22 2007 20:53 RaGe wrote:
it doesnt scan subfolders here though :o


Check the recursive option
Coulthard
Profile Joined September 2005
Greece3359 Posts
December 22 2007 13:28 GMT
#39
Found 0 hacks on Europe,2 on ICCup some newbie 2v2 gamers
born-to-porn
Profile Joined January 2004
Denmark400 Posts
December 22 2007 13:46 GMT
#40
Here's who I've found:

OnLy.Grey
Master_Lion
Howdydo
heheh123
Han.G)Leader
NicK
JungMiMo
luffi21
ilovesaurOn
H.3.RomeO
Rreaver]DOM[
Osi.Si (although he only has 2 actions at 5, whereas all the others had 8 or more)
AriZonaT (also had multi select hack, which he used to select both his gateways at the same time)
nincompoop31
Zerg-Ultralisk
Centurion
KILLTHERABBIT

Most of these were random pubbies, so it doesn't really bother me too much.
Nobody beats the Beater
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1600 Posts
December 22 2007 13:51 GMT
#41
I only had 7.5[DxS] :<
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
fbs
Profile Joined February 2003
United Kingdom2476 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 16:34:37
December 22 2007 13:59 GMT
#42
I wish I saved more replays

Only have like 30 replays, 2 hackers found:

BalOOO
Qcg.Oynx <---- this entire clan hacks or what ??? LOL

saving every game now update:
ATHENA[ARZ]
k)mOjitO-
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
December 22 2007 13:59 GMT
#43
hey guys please post the replays we cant just go around banning people because you named them :l
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
December 22 2007 14:01 GMT
#44
Hehe I just checked, every hacker in 1v1 I won, but in 2v2's we've lost¨^^
Thank you for this program!
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 14:25:32
December 22 2007 14:21 GMT
#45
I have a replay where one player at time 5 selects his larvae, trains drone, selects all 4 drones separately and sends them to the mineral patches.

If this auto split is in the replay it is very easy to find if you know what to look for. And since this hack here generated 10 actions at 5 time, if it's really humanly possible to execute 2 actions in the first 5 frames then change it to 3 or 4 actions in the first 5 frames.

But, it will be easy in the future for this program to execute a split just like a progamer would.

BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 14:46:45
December 22 2007 14:35 GMT
#46
Damn this pisses me off. So many of these people I could actually beat, beat me barely because they are hacking. Damn.

I see some pretty obvious maphack now that I know what I am looking for as well.

[edit]
All of them that I find are zergs. Is that just coincidence?
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11584 Posts
December 22 2007 14:45 GMT
#47
This program still doesnt work for me even with that C+ redistribute thing.
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
December 22 2007 14:50 GMT
#48
On December 22 2007 23:35 BlackStar wrote:
Damn this pisses me off. So many of these people I could actually beat, beat me barely because they are hacking. Damn.

I see some pretty obvious maphack now that I know what I am looking for as well.

[edit]
All of them that I find are zergs. Is that just coincidence?


Zergs are the one that can use that mineral hack where you cancel eggs and it gives you tons of cash.
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11584 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 15:05:16
December 22 2007 15:04 GMT
#49
Alright I got it to work I got a list of 25+

Fashionshow
Newlifezf
L2K-Trouble
Thanks4LastNite
HybridCarOwns
rockage
worstplayerinsc
xalnaga
Carbox
Only.GosuMsg
Jheum
ChemicalPrince
Falcon)eD(
Junai
Firebat[MuJi]
Rico)pp(1000
iLikeLings
mbc12
seeingred
DarkMysticChaos
YourAreAllGaywad
zerot
terran_90
DanceOfTheTards
TheTrapper
Qcg.Rose <-- another wtf?!


thats my list.
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BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
December 22 2007 15:12 GMT
#50
On December 22 2007 23:50 skyglow1 wrote:
Zergs are the one that can use that mineral hack where you cancel eggs and it gives you tons of cash.


Everyone knows that. But when I scanned with this program I found 8 people that have a 10 action auto split in the first 5 time frames. And all of them were zerg. They didn't mineral hack as far as I know.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
December 22 2007 15:22 GMT
#51
What's the recursive action do? And how many actions before the 5 frame mean they hack? Is two actions a certain hack or does it have to be more.
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 15:27:24
December 22 2007 15:27 GMT
#52
On December 23 2007 00:22 Jonoman92 wrote:
What's the recursive action do? And how many actions before the 5 frame mean they hack? Is two actions a certain hack or does it have to be more.


Recursive searches subfolders.

All people I found have a total 10 action split at 5 and all of them are zerg.
Maybe a non-zerg Oblivion hack escapes this scan because it functions differently.
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
December 22 2007 15:44 GMT
#53
On December 22 2007 10:17 araav wrote:
Some qucik notes from my testing!
It is actually possible to make the first action under the 5 frame!
I've seen some NOT-AT-ALL suspicious reps, where the guy made the command centre selection at 4th frame.
So the "humanly impossible" argument is just nothing. So I've added a parameter to check first N actions to be below a configurable number of frames.


im completly sure that you cant clone 4 peons into diferent minerals in 5 frames.
Teamliquidian townie
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
December 22 2007 15:52 GMT
#54
It looks like this:

5 lOsEr26 Select Larva
5 lOsEr26 Hatch Drone
5 lOsEr26 Select Drone
5 lOsEr26 Gather (0,0),3589,228,
5 lOsEr26 Select Drone
5 lOsEr26 Gather (0,0),3590,228,
5 lOsEr26 Select Drone
5 lOsEr26 Gather (0,0),3591,228,
5 lOsEr26 Select Drone
5 lOsEr26 Gather (0,0),3592,228,
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 16:01:53
December 22 2007 15:54 GMT
#55
On December 23 2007 00:27 BlackStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2007 00:22 Jonoman92 wrote:
What's the recursive action do? And how many actions before the 5 frame mean they hack? Is two actions a certain hack or does it have to be more.


Recursive searches subfolders.

All people I found have a total 10 action split at 5 and all of them are zerg.
Maybe a non-zerg Oblivion hack escapes this scan because it functions differently.


I found a terran and protoss using the scan with many actions at the 5 frame so it might just be a coincidence that you don't have any.

The only people I found were 2 bnet newbies, and haypro from the ToT rep pack...

Random questions: Does ICCUP antihack actually prevent any hacks?
And if they used oblivion does that mean they had map hack as well?
Artosis *
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States2140 Posts
December 22 2007 16:00 GMT
#56
i have multiple replays of myself and friends on hamachi doing 4 actions at the time 4.
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BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 16:14:42
December 22 2007 16:13 GMT
#57
If you have hamachi replays of very good players, setting it to 'Hack, if the time of the first 10 actions <= 5' should work.

Maybe make that default as well. It catches the most obvious version of the hack and I doubt progamers on LAN can split that quickly.

Anyway, top players and this hack split differently anyway. No one selects and orders each individual worker. They either clone with shift or they select x4, x2, etc.


I have several progame LAN replays and they split using 6 actions in the first 6 frames. And of course the x4 select followed with x2 select. They don't get caught, even with the default setting.
born-to-porn
Profile Joined January 2004
Denmark400 Posts
December 22 2007 16:25 GMT
#58
Somebody take a look at this replay:
http://www.battlereports.com/viewreplays.php?replaynum=32770

Would you say that Osi.Si hacks? He selects his nexus at 5 and makes a probe at 5, but his next action isn't until 25 and then 40. Also if you watch the replay he plays a lot like a map hacker, but that is of course a little more subjective. (don't watch the replay through to the end. It sucks.)
Nobody beats the Beater
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
December 22 2007 16:30 GMT
#59
On December 22 2007 17:51 lololol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2007 17:46 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
nice job Please maintain / update the device/this thread. If we create awareness that Oblivion is not a safe hack we can at least stop some hackers.

I highly doubt that, all it will do, is that they will no longer use the detectable features and the hack will be updated, so they are not obvious(i.e. they will scan a database of legit reps and make the hack imitate the real players actions).


THats fine The ones we catch will be known hackers from now on and distrusted. That is enough for me. This is the LARGEST hacking catch the community has ever seen. I will settle for that!
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 16:38:41
December 22 2007 16:34 GMT
#60
born-to-porn, no. Read my post above. The whole split will be at 5. And they will use the technique of selecting and ordering each individual worker.

Not only does Osi.Si only start his actual split at 25. He also selects all 4 probes, Probe(x4), and then separates the 3 from them.

You need to check each replay individually. This program only find suspicious replays.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 17:26:05
December 22 2007 17:25 GMT
#61
this thread is a mistake. This should've been tested extensively and then given to ICCup or something. This way, we will only have short term effect. I can understand the author tho, i doubt anyone would be able to have something like this and keep it private.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
December 22 2007 17:42 GMT
#62
I just scaned my autoreplay folder:
i have 3 suspicious replays; 2 are from my LAN games with my little brother. In both of them i make my first moves at frame 3. First replay there are 5 actions, second there are 7 actions. However in both of them, my peon splitting is obviously very human - starts at 13+.
This 3, last suspicious replay is my brothers rep from a pub game. This guy splits all his workers in frame 5 so im pretty sure he hacks.

So, it is possible make actions in frame 3. The time and duration of the actual split is what is indicative.
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
December 22 2007 17:57 GMT
#63
On December 23 2007 02:42 niteReloaded wrote:
So, it is possible make actions in frame 3. The time and duration of the actual split is what is indicative.


No. Since on battle.net you can't be faster than 5, it seems.

I already determined the optimal setting above.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 18:36:42
December 22 2007 18:26 GMT
#64
Wow, I just found a replay where I make the first two actions at frame 4 O_O (on Hamachi)

EdiT:

DarkCombo @ West
Light(ReQuieM)@West <-- this one's funny because i beat him in game with in-base proxy hatch into sunken
Stork[gm] @ West <--- 18 actions in frame 5.
D)c-Angel @ West

Thank god it's a pretty small list
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
BlackStar
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Netherlands3029 Posts
December 22 2007 18:48 GMT
#65
Again, check the replay manually.
ZoDD
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada309 Posts
December 22 2007 19:02 GMT
#66
cool this program is pretty nice, i scanned my dir's and found reps of this guy who kept calling me a hacker on iccup. funny how that works

5 [(o.O)] Select Larva 3599
5 [(o.O)] Hatch Drone
5 [(o.O)] Select Drone 3614
5 [(o.O)] Gather (0,0),3649,228, 3649
5 [(o.O)] Select Drone 3615
5 [(o.O)] Gather (0,0),3665,228, 3665
5 [(o.O)] Select Drone 3616
5 [(o.O)] Gather (0,0),3672,228, 3672
5 [(o.O)] Select Drone 3617
5 [(o.O)] Gather (0,0),3684,228, 3684
smarr pee pee
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
December 22 2007 19:13 GMT
#67
On December 23 2007 03:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Stork[gm] @ West <--- 18 actions in frame 5.


+ Show Spoiler [OSL FINALS SPOILER] +
no wonder he lost vs jaedong, you exposed him and he had to stop using his hacks!!
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
reps)Defi
Profile Joined September 2007
Russian Federation337 Posts
December 22 2007 20:21 GMT
#68
On December 23 2007 04:13 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2007 03:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Stork[gm] @ West <--- 18 actions in frame 5.


+ Show Spoiler [OSL FINALS SPOILER] +
no wonder he lost vs jaedong, you exposed him and he had to stop using his hacks!!

haha :D
CoL_Drake
Profile Joined March 2005
Germany455 Posts
December 22 2007 20:27 GMT
#69
On December 22 2007 21:36 Pads wrote:
i'm just waiting for CoL.Drake to search through his huge database for* hackers ^^


its CoL_Drake not CoL.Drake but
u call and here i am xD
how long does it need to scan 140.000 reps ?
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 22 2007 20:29 GMT
#70
On December 23 2007 04:13 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2007 03:26 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Stork[gm] @ West <--- 18 actions in frame 5.


+ Show Spoiler [OSL FINALS SPOILER] +
no wonder he lost vs jaedong, you exposed him and he had to stop using his hacks!!


+ Show Spoiler +
Kekekeke, what will you do now Birdtoss? WHAT NOW?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
CoL_Drake
Profile Joined March 2005
Germany455 Posts
December 22 2007 20:42 GMT
#71
ok i scanned my wgt folder:

Hunter[Hope] is suspected in every game (in games vs gosia cloud etc etc and he only 100apm xD)
others often this msg by all gamers (every gamer from the top5 have 1-5 suspected things)

but hunter is in every rep vs every enemy suspectet hehe xD
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
December 22 2007 20:55 GMT
#72
On December 23 2007 04:02 ZoDD wrote:
cool this program is pretty nice, i scanned my dir's and found reps of this guy who kept calling me a hacker on iccup. funny how that works

5 [(o.O)] Select Larva 3599
5 [(o.O)] Hatch Drone
5 [(o.O)] Select Drone 3614
5 [(o.O)] Gather (0,0),3649,228, 3649
5 [(o.O)] Select Drone 3615
5 [(o.O)] Gather (0,0),3665,228, 3665
5 [(o.O)] Select Drone 3616
5 [(o.O)] Gather (0,0),3672,228, 3672
5 [(o.O)] Select Drone 3617
5 [(o.O)] Gather (0,0),3684,228, 3684
From my too many years playing this game I have learned that hackers are the most likely to call hack for whatever reason. Since they can see what you do and also think everyone has the same moral as they do.

Caught a few whit the prog, mostly random pubbies or people I knew hacked due to that bwchart thing that alerts to some or a hack.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
December 22 2007 20:57 GMT
#73
On December 23 2007 05:42 CoL_Drake wrote:
ok i scanned my wgt folder:

Hunter[Hope] is suspected in every game (in games vs gosia cloud etc etc and he only 100apm xD)
others often this msg by all gamers (every gamer from the top5 have 1-5 suspected things)

but hunter is in every rep vs every enemy suspectet hehe xD
Well he got caught (since it is so obvious) for money hack thing in all his zerg games. So obviously he had other hacks on as well.

Sry if this was a double post.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5520 Posts
December 22 2007 21:39 GMT
#74
From the guy who wrote oblivion:

Show nested quote +
Originally Posted by VuDu
people know about oblivion if u look in bwchart u can see the scv split is to quick for any human to do it(at 5 ms)

in a new version can u aloso add Autosplit off/on ?
and i will also like the multicommand feature back cause selection hack is also detectable in bwchart

cheers


Multicommand is just as detectable as selection hack, it will make no difference. I also do not plan on changing anything in my hack to make it less or fully undetectable by BWChart, if you are worried about this crappy program detecting you then I suggest you don't use Oblivion at all. I might however include a safe mode feature into Oblivion that will disable all hacks like selection hack/multicommand, auto build/mine and anything else that could be detected by programs such as BWChart.
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skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
December 22 2007 22:38 GMT
#75
On December 23 2007 00:12 BlackStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2007 23:50 skyglow1 wrote:
Zergs are the one that can use that mineral hack where you cancel eggs and it gives you tons of cash.


Everyone knows that. But when I scanned with this program I found 8 people that have a 10 action auto split in the first 5 time frames. And all of them were zerg. They didn't mineral hack as far as I know.


Well if you're using oblivion, and the mineral hack function is only available to zerg, then it makes sense to use zerg with oblivion so you can use the mineral hack if you need to (like if you're losing badly or something).
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
December 23 2007 05:13 GMT
#76
on bnet, you cant get below 10 and this is from experience, maybe some other people can but i cant, but on lag free zones, you can go under 10 and thats for sure, maybe dl a lot of progaming reps and see if theres progamers that can go insanely fast.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51497 Posts
December 23 2007 05:24 GMT
#77
seriously the maker of oblivion deserves to be lynched for his comment about bwchart
Commentator
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 23 2007 05:32 GMT
#78
On December 23 2007 14:24 GTR-2-Go wrote:
seriously the maker of oblivion deserves to be lynched


fixed.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
December 23 2007 10:13 GMT
#79
If only that guys coding skills could be put to better use
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
December 23 2007 10:45 GMT
#80
lol... nice program.

funny all 23 hackers in my folder are bghers... fucking bastards.
Rillanon.au
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5520 Posts
December 23 2007 10:53 GMT
#81
On December 23 2007 14:32 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2007 14:24 GTR-2-Go wrote:
seriously the maker of oblivion deserves to be lynched


fixed.


Haha I dont know, he actually seems against people (idiots) using his program. Its like he wrote the hack but doesnt like people using it T_T. Just check that popular hack site to see. He discourages alot of people from using it o_O.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
SunToucher
Profile Joined October 2007
Belgium4 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-23 14:16:49
December 23 2007 14:16 GMT
#82
Processed: 224
Good: 204
Corrupted:2
Hacks: 18!

That's more than 8%
Nothing is completely true, not even this
caveman:caveman
Profile Joined August 2007
United States74 Posts
December 23 2007 21:24 GMT
#83
All of these were 10+ actions in 5 frames. All are pubbies.

Dr.own
Magicday007
Destroyer[TLH]
Pearl_Mws
Natural-01
My)toss
Dillonater
Hero1984
Marinecorps (I played this kid like 10 times one day.)
Spaghetti626
luxor921
Like 4 of the IlIIl1I| names. I just avoid these names now
rajy[kac]
tmdnlxmrjdwb
xeisiaopasta
zxzzxzzxzzxzzxz
Snipe)r(
qmfflwkemtqfa
alswjddk
kix.clipp.cer
battle.loser
2late
Fog-Rush


T.T
Pisses me off.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
December 23 2007 21:28 GMT
#84
I think if I used this program I could add some surprising names to the list.
But I can't get it to work. And what's worse, my old comp with 99% of my replays won't start.
Terrifying bananas.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5520 Posts
December 23 2007 21:35 GMT
#85
On December 24 2007 06:28 MYM.Testie wrote:
I think if I used this program I could add some surprising names to the list.
But I can't get it to work. And what's worse, my old comp with 99% of my replays won't start.
Terrifying bananas.


Oh noes! You've tried both versions in the op? Rip that old hard drive out and throw it in your new comp asap! Terrifying bananas indeed!(lol)
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
December 23 2007 23:43 GMT
#86
Question about a player: Does gStar_GoodSir from usa team B play on East?

I obsed a newb with that handle (even did a /whois to make sure it wasn't a spoof) and his apm was 100, so I assumed (and told him) he wasn't the real gStar_GoodSir. Long story short, the replay shows he uses oblivion. If someone can confirm he has this ID on USEast, I'll upload the replay.

Also, downloading the program gave me this:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

I <3 서지훈
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
December 23 2007 23:55 GMT
#87
On December 24 2007 06:28 MYM.Testie wrote:
I think if I used this program I could add some surprising names to the list.
But I can't get it to work. And what's worse, my old comp with 99% of my replays won't start.
Terrifying bananas.


You can still manually check some of them
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
Lycaeus
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1420 Posts
December 23 2007 23:58 GMT
#88
On December 24 2007 08:43 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Question about a player: Does gStar_GoodSir from usa team B play on East?

I obsed a newb with that handle (even did a /whois to make sure it wasn't a spoof) and his apm was 100, so I assumed (and told him) he wasn't the real gStar_GoodSir. Long story short, the replay shows he uses oblivion. If someone can confirm he has this ID on USEast, I'll upload the replay.

Also, downloading the program gave me this:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]



That goodsir on east is the same on europe. The same who played in the usa b tournament.
LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
December 24 2007 00:04 GMT
#89
On December 24 2007 08:58 Lycaeus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2007 08:43 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Question about a player: Does gStar_GoodSir from usa team B play on East?

I obsed a newb with that handle (even did a /whois to make sure it wasn't a spoof) and his apm was 100, so I assumed (and told him) he wasn't the real gStar_GoodSir. Long story short, the replay shows he uses oblivion. If someone can confirm he has this ID on USEast, I'll upload the replay.

Also, downloading the program gave me this:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]



That goodsir on east is the same on europe. The same who played in the usa b tournament.


Is there someone on bwusa I should send the replay to? He shouldn't be on the team if he hacks.
I <3 서지훈
Lycaeus
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States1420 Posts
December 24 2007 00:35 GMT
#90
On December 24 2007 09:04 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2007 08:58 Lycaeus wrote:
On December 24 2007 08:43 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Question about a player: Does gStar_GoodSir from usa team B play on East?

I obsed a newb with that handle (even did a /whois to make sure it wasn't a spoof) and his apm was 100, so I assumed (and told him) he wasn't the real gStar_GoodSir. Long story short, the replay shows he uses oblivion. If someone can confirm he has this ID on USEast, I'll upload the replay.

Also, downloading the program gave me this:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]



That goodsir on east is the same on europe. The same who played in the usa b tournament.


Is there someone on bwusa I should send the replay to? He shouldn't be on the team if he hacks.


Just post it on this forum... Xeris reads these forums as well (usab leader)
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-24 01:06:50
December 24 2007 00:54 GMT
#91
cool i only had a 2% 0.3% hacker rate
one of them is called cheaterdonterase.rep so uhh i guess that didn't help much
another one is me making actions at frames 2,3,4,6,7,8,9 in single player which i guess it thought suspicious
others are jus obvious split@5th frame stuff

edit: oopsie forgot recursive check
hmm no extra hacks found in subfolders

well here's my extensive (lol) list:
Su.Speed
Feel-My-ROCK

that is all
think they're some random iccup or wgt guys, i have no idea.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 25 2007 07:02 GMT
#92
Can you reupload on Yousendit Please
Rapidshare doesnt work for me
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
December 25 2007 08:52 GMT
#93
Here you go:
http://download.yousendit.com/CD30822D03DFC6D0
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
December 26 2007 07:24 GMT
#94
if someone use another hack he wont be caught
because this is for oblivion only, but in this case where someone play with hack but without
the oblivion he get a loss in his stats. wright ?
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
iCCup.Trent
Profile Joined May 2005
Argentina450 Posts
October 18 2008 21:08 GMT
#95
Sorry for the bump. Can someone reupload it for me plz? I'm ICCup SA and I would absolutely take advantage of this tool! Thanks!
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
October 19 2008 21:24 GMT
#96
here you go - http://rapidshare.com/files/155636073/unobliver.zip.html

if you have improvement suggestions please let me know
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
October 19 2008 21:26 GMT
#97
just for the sake of interest i ran it on my recent games and found 2 iccup suspicious and several podolsk definite hacks
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
October 19 2008 21:43 GMT
#98
What hacks does it detect atm?
Only automine or also some other hacks which are detectable from BWChart?
LiquipediaOne eye to kill. Two eyes to live.
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
October 19 2008 21:44 GMT
#99
What the hell lol how does this work?
I have a bunch that say suspicious '5' or '2' with people I know that don't hack.

I got 130 hacks found with recursive. Mostly of people from ELITE on East and I got like 10 of Agent)DK from east. Lots of TT1 replays are corrupted by I don't know what that means tbh.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
October 19 2008 21:53 GMT
#100
Check the replays manually for a dronesplit which consists of selecting a single worker and sending it to the minerals and that repeated four times in that one frame.
Corrupted probably means that the replay file is broken.
LiquipediaOne eye to kill. Two eyes to live.
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
October 21 2008 12:03 GMT
#101
On October 20 2008 06:43 MasterOfChaos wrote:
What hacks does it detect atm?
Only automine or also some other hacks which are detectable from BWChart?


it currently detects automine only.
never had enough time/hack replays to work around other hacks.

Dakota has some algorithm to find some hacks from the replays. If he shares the algorithm I can add it here. Or some hacking replays would help me finding some heuristics for the hacks.

Any contribution is welcomed

The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
darnoconrad
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada110 Posts
October 21 2008 15:31 GMT
#102
It would also help alot of your program complied a list of hacker into a txt tile. Currently it only directs you to the replay in which there was a suspected hacker. So you've got to manually open up each replay and see who it was. Of course, this takes alot of time.
Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be convinced by it. Do not count on them. Leave them alone. - Ayn Rand
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-21 21:05:15
October 21 2008 21:04 GMT
#103
On October 20 2008 06:44 SCC-Faust wrote:
What the hell lol how does this work?
I have a bunch that say suspicious '5' or '2' with people I know that don't hack.

I got 130 hacks found with recursive. Mostly of people from ELITE on East and I got like 10 of Agent)DK from east. Lots of TT1 replays are corrupted by I don't know what that means tbh.

Programs like this are always semi unreliable and are to be used as a tool not an end all be all of if they're hacking or not.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-21 22:02:21
October 21 2008 22:02 GMT
#104
Chances are, if you post an anti-hack/hack detector technique on a large, well known forum, Zynastor will find it, and rape it ezpz2ez.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
October 21 2008 22:56 GMT
#105
Cool dood ^__^

Ive found 30 hacks on my replays *thats ignoring some of the reps i .rared cuz i had 2k *

Im wondering though: If a player lags at start, it is possible that this program detects it as hack?
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
iCCup.Trent
Profile Joined May 2005
Argentina450 Posts
October 27 2008 06:20 GMT
#106
On October 20 2008 06:24 araav wrote:
here you go - http://rapidshare.com/files/155636073/unobliver.zip.html

if you have improvement suggestions please let me know

Thanks and I will!
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
October 27 2008 06:54 GMT
#107
SCC-Faust (8 times with 8 aliases)
SCC-Micronesia
SCC-Arcology
SCC-Caliban
SCC-Toss
SCC-Squirrel
SCC-Tennis.fan

wow i didn't know my whole clan hacks, you bastards (lawl jkjkjk)

but srsly Faust you are hacking in this UMS game here lol
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
October 27 2008 07:46 GMT
#108
I always knew micronesia hacked
Moderator<:3-/-<
hubfub
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Australia352 Posts
October 27 2008 08:00 GMT
#109
whats oblivion hack do?
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
October 27 2008 08:04 GMT
#110
On October 27 2008 16:46 IntoTheWow wrote:
I always knew micronesia hacked

my vote for the next TL meme
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24740 Posts
October 27 2008 10:42 GMT
#111
On October 27 2008 16:46 IntoTheWow wrote:
I always knew micronesia hacked

Yeah and you still caught me offguard with that drill rofl
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