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Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL - Page 13

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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27234 Posts
July 31 2025 00:21 GMT
#241
Flash seems to be effectively confirming what Flash hating monsters like myself and TMNT were saying, good to know
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-31 01:11:38
July 31 2025 00:28 GMT
#242
On July 31 2025 08:50 jinjin5000 wrote:




Hmm..ASL Winter? I thought there's only two ASLs/year. Or does Flash mean early next year? Who's got the inside scoop.

Pretty big if true.

edit: i mean big if there is a 3rd asl this year.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3247 Posts
July 31 2025 00:54 GMT
#243
"I can't stand losing that's why I can't participate"

*win rate reaching 80%, considering playing ASL again.

It's almost as if Flash himself voted team TMNT.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27234 Posts
July 31 2025 01:39 GMT
#244
On July 31 2025 09:54 TMNT wrote:
"I can't stand losing that's why I can't participate"

*win rate reaching 80%, considering playing ASL again.

It's almost as if Flash himself voted team TMNT.

‘He’s probably healthy enough to play and play well, but doesn’t want to if he’s not feeling absolute 100%’

‘How dare you hate Flash!’

*Flash literally says that*
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
July 31 2025 06:01 GMT
#245
Bisu only now switching from playing in a small window with a wired mouse made me chuckle.
Calendaraka Foxhan
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1267 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-31 06:40:33
July 31 2025 06:40 GMT
#246
On July 31 2025 15:01 HaN- wrote:
Bisu only now switching from playing in a small window with a wired mouse made me chuckle.

would be funny if he reached the next level after changing things up because it was holding him back lol.
JDON MY SOUL!
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
July 31 2025 06:41 GMT
#247
On July 31 2025 09:54 TMNT wrote:
"I can't stand losing that's why I can't participate"

*win rate reaching 80%, considering playing ASL again.

It's almost as if Flash himself voted team TMNT.


Now I'm sure everyone else will jump to admit they were wrong and they'll stop being toxic
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1730 Posts
July 31 2025 08:02 GMT
#248
He is just saying the same thing over and over you guys just don't want to understand. He can't give it all as he needs time to recover from surgery and that bothers him coze bro isn't going to eat pizza without cheese just to make his fans happy.

Btw, "time to go wireless " haha!
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7009 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-31 09:55:05
July 31 2025 09:54 GMT
#249
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mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey729 Posts
July 31 2025 10:14 GMT
#250
On July 31 2025 18:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
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LOL, again what is TMNT going to spin it as this time?
I think I called on TMNT it wasn't wise talking about Flash as a percentile point. Here it is demonstated again. Health is not a discussion point. Flash goes to compete when going gets easy on his health.
Turrican
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1267 Posts
July 31 2025 12:05 GMT
#251
as i said, flash is an all or nothing kind of guy. plus he states having to cut on streaming. steeaming is 99% of the starcraft income.
JDON MY SOUL!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27234 Posts
July 31 2025 12:28 GMT
#252
On July 31 2025 21:05 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
as i said, flash is an all or nothing kind of guy. plus he states having to cut on streaming. steeaming is 99% of the starcraft income.

Flash can literally say that in this very video and folks will be like ‘nah’.

It’s really quite something to observe.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3247 Posts
July 31 2025 13:05 GMT
#253
What he said in those screenshots, assuming they are all true (given screenshot 1 and 3 are not even consistent between themselves), are not even contradictory to what he said previously or what he said in the other part of this video or what I said.

These guys don't have an argument. They are just nitpicking on minor, irrelevant details or making strawman arguments. Sigh.

This is just like the time we argued about the Shuttle vs Queen game, and then jinjin released a video with all the pros confirming my side of the argument, but Eon still had his head buried deep in the sand and kept doubling down on his.

Anyway, with this video this case is settled now. Nothing needs to be said anymore.
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden557 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-31 14:04:12
July 31 2025 14:00 GMT
#254
On July 31 2025 22:05 TMNT wrote:
What he said in those screenshots, assuming they are all true (given screenshot 1 and 3 are not even consistent between themselves), are not even contradictory to what he said previously or what he said in the other part of this video or what I said.

These guys don't have an argument. They are just nitpicking on minor, irrelevant details or making strawman arguments. Sigh.

This is just like the time we argued about the Shuttle vs Queen game, and then jinjin released a video with all the pros confirming my side of the argument, but Eon still had his head buried deep in the sand and kept doubling down on his.

Anyway, with this video this case is settled now. Nothing needs to be said anymore.


yeah and you said the asl 20 maps werent "anti-soulkey", yet soulkey himself says the maps are shit for zerg. Anyways, i think Flash is starting to regret not entering ASL 20 as he's absolutely smashing everyone in the daily proleagues.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27234 Posts
July 31 2025 14:34 GMT
#255
On July 31 2025 23:00 A.Alm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2025 22:05 TMNT wrote:
What he said in those screenshots, assuming they are all true (given screenshot 1 and 3 are not even consistent between themselves), are not even contradictory to what he said previously or what he said in the other part of this video or what I said.

These guys don't have an argument. They are just nitpicking on minor, irrelevant details or making strawman arguments. Sigh.

This is just like the time we argued about the Shuttle vs Queen game, and then jinjin released a video with all the pros confirming my side of the argument, but Eon still had his head buried deep in the sand and kept doubling down on his.

Anyway, with this video this case is settled now. Nothing needs to be said anymore.


yeah and you said the asl 20 maps werent "anti-soulkey", yet soulkey himself says the maps are shit for zerg. Anyways, i think Flash is starting to regret not entering ASL 20 as he's absolutely smashing everyone in the daily proleagues.

Not a conversation I was privy to, but TMNT can be wrong there and 100% right here.

Their argument (and mine incidental) is that Flash’s injury can still be debilitating, but he could play ASL based on his level of activity and his actual level, he’s just not doing so because he wants to feel 100% or as close as he can get, and if he doesn’t feel he can actually win, he doesn’t want to enter. Which, incidentally I don’t have any problem with, especially as ASL is more for prestige than money versus what Flash could lose out on from streaming.

Which Flash literally says in this video is a factor.

If TMNT was saying Flash is a pussy and isn’t really as injured as he says, which is the strawman of his actual posts, then yeah I’d think it fair to call him out
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2941 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-31 14:50:40
July 31 2025 14:47 GMT
#256
On July 31 2025 23:00 A.Alm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2025 22:05 TMNT wrote:
What he said in those screenshots, assuming they are all true (given screenshot 1 and 3 are not even consistent between themselves), are not even contradictory to what he said previously or what he said in the other part of this video or what I said.

These guys don't have an argument. They are just nitpicking on minor, irrelevant details or making strawman arguments. Sigh.

This is just like the time we argued about the Shuttle vs Queen game, and then jinjin released a video with all the pros confirming my side of the argument, but Eon still had his head buried deep in the sand and kept doubling down on his.

Anyway, with this video this case is settled now. Nothing needs to be said anymore.


yeah and you said the asl 20 maps werent "anti-soulkey", yet soulkey himself says the maps are shit for zerg. Anyways, i think Flash is starting to regret not entering ASL 20 as he's absolutely smashing everyone in the daily proleagues.


"Anti-Soulkey" and "Anti-Zerg" are completely different things. ZvZ is arguably his worst matchup, so maps that are favorable for TvZ and PvZ are perhaps helpful for Soulkey because it knocks out other Zerg players that he'd have more difficulty with. Meanwhile his skill vT and vP is so high that a moderate map imbalance doesn't slow him down.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden557 Posts
July 31 2025 15:21 GMT
#257
On July 31 2025 23:34 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2025 23:00 A.Alm wrote:
On July 31 2025 22:05 TMNT wrote:
What he said in those screenshots, assuming they are all true (given screenshot 1 and 3 are not even consistent between themselves), are not even contradictory to what he said previously or what he said in the other part of this video or what I said.

These guys don't have an argument. They are just nitpicking on minor, irrelevant details or making strawman arguments. Sigh.

This is just like the time we argued about the Shuttle vs Queen game, and then jinjin released a video with all the pros confirming my side of the argument, but Eon still had his head buried deep in the sand and kept doubling down on his.

Anyway, with this video this case is settled now. Nothing needs to be said anymore.


yeah and you said the asl 20 maps werent "anti-soulkey", yet soulkey himself says the maps are shit for zerg. Anyways, i think Flash is starting to regret not entering ASL 20 as he's absolutely smashing everyone in the daily proleagues.

Not a conversation I was privy to, but TMNT can be wrong there and 100% right here.

Their argument (and mine incidental) is that Flash’s injury can still be debilitating, but he could play ASL based on his level of activity and his actual level, he’s just not doing so because he wants to feel 100% or as close as he can get, and if he doesn’t feel he can actually win, he doesn’t want to enter. Which, incidentally I don’t have any problem with, especially as ASL is more for prestige than money versus what Flash could lose out on from streaming.

Which Flash literally says in this video is a factor.

If TMNT was saying Flash is a pussy and isn’t really as injured as he says, which is the strawman of his actual posts, then yeah I’d think it fair to call him out


i was just showing the irony of his pride to agree on some stupid thing with progamers, i dont care about ur arguments about this other stupid jinjin drama thing.
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden557 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-31 15:24:23
July 31 2025 15:22 GMT
#258
On July 31 2025 23:47 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2025 23:00 A.Alm wrote:
On July 31 2025 22:05 TMNT wrote:
What he said in those screenshots, assuming they are all true (given screenshot 1 and 3 are not even consistent between themselves), are not even contradictory to what he said previously or what he said in the other part of this video or what I said.

These guys don't have an argument. They are just nitpicking on minor, irrelevant details or making strawman arguments. Sigh.

This is just like the time we argued about the Shuttle vs Queen game, and then jinjin released a video with all the pros confirming my side of the argument, but Eon still had his head buried deep in the sand and kept doubling down on his.

Anyway, with this video this case is settled now. Nothing needs to be said anymore.


yeah and you said the asl 20 maps werent "anti-soulkey", yet soulkey himself says the maps are shit for zerg. Anyways, i think Flash is starting to regret not entering ASL 20 as he's absolutely smashing everyone in the daily proleagues.


"Anti-Soulkey" and "Anti-Zerg" are completely different things. ZvZ is arguably his worst matchup, so maps that are favorable for TvZ and PvZ are perhaps helpful for Soulkey because it knocks out other Zerg players that he'd have more difficulty with. Meanwhile his skill vT and vP is so high that a moderate map imbalance doesn't slow him down.


his full statement was "maps are bad vs zerg, so i dont think i will win next ASL", but great theory considering he did 4-3 against both best and snow in the semi's and final's of asl 19
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey729 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-31 17:29:30
July 31 2025 17:29 GMT
#259
On July 31 2025 22:05 TMNT wrote:
What he said in those screenshots, assuming they are all true (given screenshot 1 and 3 are not even consistent between themselves), are not even contradictory to what he said previously or what he said in the other part of this video or what I said.

These guys don't have an argument. They are just nitpicking on minor, irrelevant details or making strawman arguments. Sigh.

This is just like the time we argued about the Shuttle vs Queen game, and then jinjin released a video with all the pros confirming my side of the argument, but Eon still had his head buried deep in the sand and kept doubling down on his.

Anyway, with this video this case is settled now. Nothing needs to be said anymore.

You are wrong. I told you before general consensus FE>all is not established. Just like ZvZ in PvZ, the one who makes zealots vs hatchery first will always win.
Turrican
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey729 Posts
July 31 2025 17:34 GMT
#260
On July 31 2025 23:34 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2025 23:00 A.Alm wrote:
On July 31 2025 22:05 TMNT wrote:
What he said in those screenshots, assuming they are all true (given screenshot 1 and 3 are not even consistent between themselves), are not even contradictory to what he said previously or what he said in the other part of this video or what I said.

These guys don't have an argument. They are just nitpicking on minor, irrelevant details or making strawman arguments. Sigh.

This is just like the time we argued about the Shuttle vs Queen game, and then jinjin released a video with all the pros confirming my side of the argument, but Eon still had his head buried deep in the sand and kept doubling down on his.

Anyway, with this video this case is settled now. Nothing needs to be said anymore.


yeah and you said the asl 20 maps werent "anti-soulkey", yet soulkey himself says the maps are shit for zerg. Anyways, i think Flash is starting to regret not entering ASL 20 as he's absolutely smashing everyone in the daily proleagues.

Not a conversation I was privy to, but TMNT can be wrong there and 100% right here.

Their argument (and mine incidental) is that Flash’s injury can still be debilitating, but he could play ASL based on his level of activity and his actual level, he’s just not doing so because he wants to feel 100% or as close as he can get, and if he doesn’t feel he can actually win, he doesn’t want to enter. Which, incidentally I don’t have any problem with, especially as ASL is more for prestige than money versus what Flash could lose out on from streaming.

Which Flash literally says in this video is a factor.

If TMNT was saying Flash is a pussy and isn’t really as injured as he says, which is the strawman of his actual posts, then yeah I’d think it fair to call him out

There is a missing point in this sentiment. His injury is not in remission. It can get worse when he enters. Much intuition is spent on the progress of the injury. It can get like Tony Hawk, although this isn't a bone injury. It can still get worse. ASL isn't like streaming on and off games.
Turrican
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