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mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey682 Posts
July 19 2025 12:54 GMT
#221
On July 19 2025 21:32 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2025 21:02 mtcn77 wrote:
Team popcorn all the way.
Still, I would like to know what I'm arguing against sometimes. TMNT please talk in plain english rather than negatives. I don't think no one has to suffer reading through your texts until you held the responsibility of clearing up the confusion you started by sending mixed messages.
PS: this thread is so much like Flash's persona. People claim Shuttle is a joke, but Flash as time goes by is proving himself to be just the jester himself.

A confusion that seems quite limited to yourself. I certainly don’t find our resident mutant turtle’s contributions confusing at all.

Shuttle isn’t a joke? He very much does seem to be the butt of many a joke, albeit in a generally good-natured fashion.

Show nested quote +
On July 19 2025 21:21 mtcn77 wrote:
On July 19 2025 08:00 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Hey TMNT You literally said that FlaSh is not playing ASL to no damage his stats and keep it godlike. And you know what ? People in that poll support your theory. You won the war bro.

I literally stick to FlaSh words. Guy is recovering from a surgery and want to give himself time. People dont wanna believe him. It is what it is.

Fighting games have this put up or shut up policy. If you can do better, rather than bad mouthing the players, why not play in the tournament. I think these posters need to remember to stake their own reputation instead of others, first and foremost.
Flash is by all records a respectable pro, not in the least up to TMNT's credibility of his intentions in the actions he takes. The fact that he has surpassed a starcraft pro is no less the same as rain whenever he wants to compete that he can return to the scene. It is silly to try to malign more knowledgeble people such as flash and rain. They have better checkpoints to understand where they stand in the game. What might seem ignorance might be prospective patience until their skills, or the their opponents are ready for a burst into the scene. Let's face it, these players don't have the tenacity of JyJ and Soulkey. Those are true grinders.

TMNT never said he could do better lmao, so why would they challenge Flash?
Show nested quote +
If you hide the name of Flash and look at that record, it gives you the impression of someone who is slightly better than Royal/JYJ (just a rough estimation). You think that level is not enough for ASL?

I mean it’s right here. TMNT thinks Flash’s current level is more than respectable/competitive. He’s not saying he’s some scrub lmao


This might be lost in translation, but I'm saying he should, otherwise not claim to know any better. It is very irritating to watch a no name attach flash's name as catchphrase to present his conspiracy theories. It is doubly irritating when said player is under rehabilitation and he is being very shortsighted when talking about a disease he cannot treat to argue whether it exists at all. I tried reasoning with it before bringing forth medical information. His response is total silence.
Turrican
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey682 Posts
July 19 2025 13:06 GMT
#222
On July 19 2025 21:48 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2025 21:46 mtcn77 wrote:
On July 19 2025 21:44 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On July 19 2025 21:21 mtcn77 wrote:
On July 19 2025 08:00 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Hey TMNT You literally said that FlaSh is not playing ASL to no damage his stats and keep it godlike. And you know what ? People in that poll support your theory. You won the war bro.

I literally stick to FlaSh words. Guy is recovering from a surgery and want to give himself time. People dont wanna believe him. It is what it is.

Fighting games have this put up or shut up policy. If you can do better, rather than bad mouthing the players, why not play in the tournament. I think these posters need to remember to stake their own reputation instead of others, first and foremost.
Flash is by all records a respectable pro, not in the least up to TMNT's credibility of his intentions in the actions he takes. The fact that he has surpassed a starcraft pro is no less the same as rain whenever he wants to compete that he can return to the scene. It is silly to try to malign more knowledgeble people such as flash and rain. They have better checkpoints to understand where they stand in the game. What might seem ignorance might be prospective patience until their skills, or the their opponents are ready for a burst into the scene. Let's face it, these players don't have the tenacity of JyJ and Soulkey. Those are true grinders.



Correction. JyJ reduced his activity by 90% after winning ASL. He is the opposite of a grinder these days. Soulkey also doesn't grind. Soulkey plays best with moderate amounts of physical practice. he likely brainstorms a whole lot more than he practices.

No, no, I only mean right after Royal's ASL14 victory. Those two filled the gap Royal left behind. I don't mean today.


ah, you mean true competitors :p

Sorry, I'm ESL. I cannot always remember the correct terminology the first time.
PS: I think those years were the best. Maybe I should watch the past seasons to weigh in. It feels like the skill gap was wider in older seasons. ASL14 and onwards, things seem very balanced to me. Still, wraith play at 76 is peak terran for me. It feels so timeless, it could be 98 08 or 2023. There will never be a time when there is an era for wraiths.
Turrican
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26572 Posts
July 19 2025 14:12 GMT
#223
On July 19 2025 21:54 mtcn77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2025 21:32 WombaT wrote:
On July 19 2025 21:02 mtcn77 wrote:
Team popcorn all the way.
Still, I would like to know what I'm arguing against sometimes. TMNT please talk in plain english rather than negatives. I don't think no one has to suffer reading through your texts until you held the responsibility of clearing up the confusion you started by sending mixed messages.
PS: this thread is so much like Flash's persona. People claim Shuttle is a joke, but Flash as time goes by is proving himself to be just the jester himself.

A confusion that seems quite limited to yourself. I certainly don’t find our resident mutant turtle’s contributions confusing at all.

Shuttle isn’t a joke? He very much does seem to be the butt of many a joke, albeit in a generally good-natured fashion.

On July 19 2025 21:21 mtcn77 wrote:
On July 19 2025 08:00 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Hey TMNT You literally said that FlaSh is not playing ASL to no damage his stats and keep it godlike. And you know what ? People in that poll support your theory. You won the war bro.

I literally stick to FlaSh words. Guy is recovering from a surgery and want to give himself time. People dont wanna believe him. It is what it is.

Fighting games have this put up or shut up policy. If you can do better, rather than bad mouthing the players, why not play in the tournament. I think these posters need to remember to stake their own reputation instead of others, first and foremost.
Flash is by all records a respectable pro, not in the least up to TMNT's credibility of his intentions in the actions he takes. The fact that he has surpassed a starcraft pro is no less the same as rain whenever he wants to compete that he can return to the scene. It is silly to try to malign more knowledgeble people such as flash and rain. They have better checkpoints to understand where they stand in the game. What might seem ignorance might be prospective patience until their skills, or the their opponents are ready for a burst into the scene. Let's face it, these players don't have the tenacity of JyJ and Soulkey. Those are true grinders.

TMNT never said he could do better lmao, so why would they challenge Flash?
If you hide the name of Flash and look at that record, it gives you the impression of someone who is slightly better than Royal/JYJ (just a rough estimation). You think that level is not enough for ASL?

I mean it’s right here. TMNT thinks Flash’s current level is more than respectable/competitive. He’s not saying he’s some scrub lmao


This might be lost in translation, but I'm saying he should, otherwise not claim to know any better. It is very irritating to watch a no name attach flash's name as catchphrase to present his conspiracy theories. It is doubly irritating when said player is under rehabilitation and he is being very shortsighted when talking about a disease he cannot treat to argue whether it exists at all. I tried reasoning with it before bringing forth medical information. His response is total silence.

The conspiracy theory of *checks notes*, observing that Flash has quite a lot of games logged, and decent, but not outstanding records by his standards?

Your counter-points would be totally valid if they weren’t in response to claims not even being made in the first place.

Flash at 80%, 90% or whatever arbitrary number we stick on it is still good enough to be competitive in ASL.

Flash may have the kind of mentality where he doesn’t like competing if he can’t show 95-100% of his potential, plenty have that mentality nothing wrong with that.

It’s less a conspiracy theory and more the logical conclusion that that, or something similar is the case.

If, however Flash’s game activity falls off a cliff for the next week while, the logical conclusion would shift to him being physically unable to play this edition.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey682 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-19 14:36:40
July 19 2025 14:31 GMT
#224
On July 19 2025 23:12 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2025 21:54 mtcn77 wrote:
On July 19 2025 21:32 WombaT wrote:
On July 19 2025 21:02 mtcn77 wrote:
Team popcorn all the way.
Still, I would like to know what I'm arguing against sometimes. TMNT please talk in plain english rather than negatives. I don't think no one has to suffer reading through your texts until you held the responsibility of clearing up the confusion you started by sending mixed messages.
PS: this thread is so much like Flash's persona. People claim Shuttle is a joke, but Flash as time goes by is proving himself to be just the jester himself.

A confusion that seems quite limited to yourself. I certainly don’t find our resident mutant turtle’s contributions confusing at all.

Shuttle isn’t a joke? He very much does seem to be the butt of many a joke, albeit in a generally good-natured fashion.

On July 19 2025 21:21 mtcn77 wrote:
On July 19 2025 08:00 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Hey TMNT You literally said that FlaSh is not playing ASL to no damage his stats and keep it godlike. And you know what ? People in that poll support your theory. You won the war bro.

I literally stick to FlaSh words. Guy is recovering from a surgery and want to give himself time. People dont wanna believe him. It is what it is.

Fighting games have this put up or shut up policy. If you can do better, rather than bad mouthing the players, why not play in the tournament. I think these posters need to remember to stake their own reputation instead of others, first and foremost.
Flash is by all records a respectable pro, not in the least up to TMNT's credibility of his intentions in the actions he takes. The fact that he has surpassed a starcraft pro is no less the same as rain whenever he wants to compete that he can return to the scene. It is silly to try to malign more knowledgeble people such as flash and rain. They have better checkpoints to understand where they stand in the game. What might seem ignorance might be prospective patience until their skills, or the their opponents are ready for a burst into the scene. Let's face it, these players don't have the tenacity of JyJ and Soulkey. Those are true grinders.

TMNT never said he could do better lmao, so why would they challenge Flash?
If you hide the name of Flash and look at that record, it gives you the impression of someone who is slightly better than Royal/JYJ (just a rough estimation). You think that level is not enough for ASL?

I mean it’s right here. TMNT thinks Flash’s current level is more than respectable/competitive. He’s not saying he’s some scrub lmao


This might be lost in translation, but I'm saying he should, otherwise not claim to know any better. It is very irritating to watch a no name attach flash's name as catchphrase to present his conspiracy theories. It is doubly irritating when said player is under rehabilitation and he is being very shortsighted when talking about a disease he cannot treat to argue whether it exists at all. I tried reasoning with it before bringing forth medical information. His response is total silence.

The conspiracy theory of *checks notes*, observing that Flash has quite a lot of games logged, and decent, but not outstanding records by his standards?

Your counter-points would be totally valid if they weren’t in response to claims not even being made in the first place.

Flash at 80%, 90% or whatever arbitrary number we stick on it is still good enough to be competitive in ASL.

Flash may have the kind of mentality where he doesn’t like competing if he can’t show 95-100% of his potential, plenty have that mentality nothing wrong with that.

It’s less a conspiracy theory and more the logical conclusion that that, or something similar is the case.

If, however Flash’s game activity falls off a cliff for the next week while, the logical conclusion would shift to him being physically unable to play this edition.

I don't get it when people assume they have the capacity to weigh in on a matter as heavy as 4 time ASL winner Flash. What is more, this is also a medical issue. Just looking at numbers on a paper, can you point out which era a player is? Jaedong kept playing albeit losing to flash. Hence I say, put up, or shut up as fighting game casters say.
This is flash we are talking about. I told this before: the guy made his entrance doing cheese against Bisu, the player who stopped Savior become bonjwa who would become bonjwa himself if flash wasn't around. Don't compare him with shuttle who takes every opportunity he can. Flash is not fooling around, ever.
PS: you ok with tmnt underestimating flash? I'm not.
Turrican
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6833 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-19 18:50:18
July 19 2025 18:39 GMT
#225
On July 19 2025 23:31 mtcn77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2025 23:12 WombaT wrote:
On July 19 2025 21:54 mtcn77 wrote:
On July 19 2025 21:32 WombaT wrote:
On July 19 2025 21:02 mtcn77 wrote:
Team popcorn all the way.
Still, I would like to know what I'm arguing against sometimes. TMNT please talk in plain english rather than negatives. I don't think no one has to suffer reading through your texts until you held the responsibility of clearing up the confusion you started by sending mixed messages.
PS: this thread is so much like Flash's persona. People claim Shuttle is a joke, but Flash as time goes by is proving himself to be just the jester himself.

A confusion that seems quite limited to yourself. I certainly don’t find our resident mutant turtle’s contributions confusing at all.

Shuttle isn’t a joke? He very much does seem to be the butt of many a joke, albeit in a generally good-natured fashion.

On July 19 2025 21:21 mtcn77 wrote:
On July 19 2025 08:00 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Hey TMNT You literally said that FlaSh is not playing ASL to no damage his stats and keep it godlike. And you know what ? People in that poll support your theory. You won the war bro.

I literally stick to FlaSh words. Guy is recovering from a surgery and want to give himself time. People dont wanna believe him. It is what it is.

Fighting games have this put up or shut up policy. If you can do better, rather than bad mouthing the players, why not play in the tournament. I think these posters need to remember to stake their own reputation instead of others, first and foremost.
Flash is by all records a respectable pro, not in the least up to TMNT's credibility of his intentions in the actions he takes. The fact that he has surpassed a starcraft pro is no less the same as rain whenever he wants to compete that he can return to the scene. It is silly to try to malign more knowledgeble people such as flash and rain. They have better checkpoints to understand where they stand in the game. What might seem ignorance might be prospective patience until their skills, or the their opponents are ready for a burst into the scene. Let's face it, these players don't have the tenacity of JyJ and Soulkey. Those are true grinders.

TMNT never said he could do better lmao, so why would they challenge Flash?
If you hide the name of Flash and look at that record, it gives you the impression of someone who is slightly better than Royal/JYJ (just a rough estimation). You think that level is not enough for ASL?

I mean it’s right here. TMNT thinks Flash’s current level is more than respectable/competitive. He’s not saying he’s some scrub lmao


This might be lost in translation, but I'm saying he should, otherwise not claim to know any better. It is very irritating to watch a no name attach flash's name as catchphrase to present his conspiracy theories. It is doubly irritating when said player is under rehabilitation and he is being very shortsighted when talking about a disease he cannot treat to argue whether it exists at all. I tried reasoning with it before bringing forth medical information. His response is total silence.

The conspiracy theory of *checks notes*, observing that Flash has quite a lot of games logged, and decent, but not outstanding records by his standards?

Your counter-points would be totally valid if they weren’t in response to claims not even being made in the first place.

Flash at 80%, 90% or whatever arbitrary number we stick on it is still good enough to be competitive in ASL.

Flash may have the kind of mentality where he doesn’t like competing if he can’t show 95-100% of his potential, plenty have that mentality nothing wrong with that.

It’s less a conspiracy theory and more the logical conclusion that that, or something similar is the case.

If, however Flash’s game activity falls off a cliff for the next week while, the logical conclusion would shift to him being physically unable to play this edition.

I don't get it when people assume they have the capacity to weigh in on a matter as heavy as 4 time ASL winner Flash. What is more, this is also a medical issue. Just looking at numbers on a paper, can you point out which era a player is? Jaedong kept playing albeit losing to flash. Hence I say, put up, or shut up as fighting game casters say.
This is flash we are talking about. I told this before: the guy made his entrance doing cheese against Bisu, the player who stopped Savior become bonjwa who would become bonjwa himself if flash wasn't around. Don't compare him with shuttle who takes every opportunity he can. Flash is not fooling around, ever.
PS: you ok with tmnt underestimating flash? I'm not.


After the crypto incident i think a lot of people dont trust FlaSh anymore. It doesnt help that FlaSh also bullied out Jangbi or so are the rumours so TMNT is not kind to such actions.

YO T. SUP DAWG.
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BONYTH CLOSE THE POLL. STOP COUNTING !!

I wanna take this moment to thank all the people that stick to real facts and not that BS that flash is scared of sh*t.
THE GOAT AINT SCARE OF NOTHING MAN COMMON NOW.

We not dominate the starcraft scene since the Kespa era to now the afreeca Era just for this fake Turtle ninja spill that bs on God.

Hey T. GOod try tho. I respect that.

Crazy part is . Im not even the biggest FlaSh fan. Im just a zerg bro.

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Chill T im just playing.
Kraekkling
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
641 Posts
July 19 2025 18:41 GMT
#226
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26572 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-19 19:14:06
July 19 2025 19:11 GMT
#227
On July 19 2025 23:31 mtcn77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2025 23:12 WombaT wrote:
On July 19 2025 21:54 mtcn77 wrote:
On July 19 2025 21:32 WombaT wrote:
On July 19 2025 21:02 mtcn77 wrote:
Team popcorn all the way.
Still, I would like to know what I'm arguing against sometimes. TMNT please talk in plain english rather than negatives. I don't think no one has to suffer reading through your texts until you held the responsibility of clearing up the confusion you started by sending mixed messages.
PS: this thread is so much like Flash's persona. People claim Shuttle is a joke, but Flash as time goes by is proving himself to be just the jester himself.

A confusion that seems quite limited to yourself. I certainly don’t find our resident mutant turtle’s contributions confusing at all.

Shuttle isn’t a joke? He very much does seem to be the butt of many a joke, albeit in a generally good-natured fashion.

On July 19 2025 21:21 mtcn77 wrote:
On July 19 2025 08:00 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Hey TMNT You literally said that FlaSh is not playing ASL to no damage his stats and keep it godlike. And you know what ? People in that poll support your theory. You won the war bro.

I literally stick to FlaSh words. Guy is recovering from a surgery and want to give himself time. People dont wanna believe him. It is what it is.

Fighting games have this put up or shut up policy. If you can do better, rather than bad mouthing the players, why not play in the tournament. I think these posters need to remember to stake their own reputation instead of others, first and foremost.
Flash is by all records a respectable pro, not in the least up to TMNT's credibility of his intentions in the actions he takes. The fact that he has surpassed a starcraft pro is no less the same as rain whenever he wants to compete that he can return to the scene. It is silly to try to malign more knowledgeble people such as flash and rain. They have better checkpoints to understand where they stand in the game. What might seem ignorance might be prospective patience until their skills, or the their opponents are ready for a burst into the scene. Let's face it, these players don't have the tenacity of JyJ and Soulkey. Those are true grinders.

TMNT never said he could do better lmao, so why would they challenge Flash?
If you hide the name of Flash and look at that record, it gives you the impression of someone who is slightly better than Royal/JYJ (just a rough estimation). You think that level is not enough for ASL?

I mean it’s right here. TMNT thinks Flash’s current level is more than respectable/competitive. He’s not saying he’s some scrub lmao


This might be lost in translation, but I'm saying he should, otherwise not claim to know any better. It is very irritating to watch a no name attach flash's name as catchphrase to present his conspiracy theories. It is doubly irritating when said player is under rehabilitation and he is being very shortsighted when talking about a disease he cannot treat to argue whether it exists at all. I tried reasoning with it before bringing forth medical information. His response is total silence.

The conspiracy theory of *checks notes*, observing that Flash has quite a lot of games logged, and decent, but not outstanding records by his standards?

Your counter-points would be totally valid if they weren’t in response to claims not even being made in the first place.

Flash at 80%, 90% or whatever arbitrary number we stick on it is still good enough to be competitive in ASL.

Flash may have the kind of mentality where he doesn’t like competing if he can’t show 95-100% of his potential, plenty have that mentality nothing wrong with that.

It’s less a conspiracy theory and more the logical conclusion that that, or something similar is the case.

If, however Flash’s game activity falls off a cliff for the next week while, the logical conclusion would shift to him being physically unable to play this edition.

I don't get it when people assume they have the capacity to weigh in on a matter as heavy as 4 time ASL winner Flash. What is more, this is also a medical issue. Just looking at numbers on a paper, can you point out which era a player is? Jaedong kept playing albeit losing to flash. Hence I say, put up, or shut up as fighting game casters say.
This is flash we are talking about. I told this before: the guy made his entrance doing cheese against Bisu, the player who stopped Savior become bonjwa who would become bonjwa himself if flash wasn't around. Don't compare him with shuttle who takes every opportunity he can. Flash is not fooling around, ever.
PS: you ok with tmnt underestimating flash? I'm not.

What on Earth are you even talking about? How is basically any of your post even relevant to the topic?

Your inability to respond to what people actually say is as embarrassing as your fawning over Flash as if he’s some kind of god among mortals that nobody has the right to even question under any circumstance whatsoever.

Thoroughly ridiculous stuff. I mean not as ridiculous as ‘Protoss are idiots for fast expanding’ or ‘rushing a Queen to infest a command centre is better than standard mutas’, but pretty ridiculous.

Ironically with those you claim to know better than seasoned pros, but for this topic for some reason you think plebs shouldn’t be allowed an opinion and Flash’s word is law.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway764 Posts
July 19 2025 19:25 GMT
#228
Just ignore him, he lives in his own bubble and does not read what he’s responding to.
He’s either a troll or just very very not smart.
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey682 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-19 21:22:44
July 19 2025 21:13 GMT
#229
On July 20 2025 04:11 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2025 23:31 mtcn77 wrote:
On July 19 2025 23:12 WombaT wrote:
On July 19 2025 21:54 mtcn77 wrote:
On July 19 2025 21:32 WombaT wrote:
On July 19 2025 21:02 mtcn77 wrote:
Team popcorn all the way.
Still, I would like to know what I'm arguing against sometimes. TMNT please talk in plain english rather than negatives. I don't think no one has to suffer reading through your texts until you held the responsibility of clearing up the confusion you started by sending mixed messages.
PS: this thread is so much like Flash's persona. People claim Shuttle is a joke, but Flash as time goes by is proving himself to be just the jester himself.

A confusion that seems quite limited to yourself. I certainly don’t find our resident mutant turtle’s contributions confusing at all.

Shuttle isn’t a joke? He very much does seem to be the butt of many a joke, albeit in a generally good-natured fashion.

On July 19 2025 21:21 mtcn77 wrote:
On July 19 2025 08:00 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Hey TMNT You literally said that FlaSh is not playing ASL to no damage his stats and keep it godlike. And you know what ? People in that poll support your theory. You won the war bro.

I literally stick to FlaSh words. Guy is recovering from a surgery and want to give himself time. People dont wanna believe him. It is what it is.

Fighting games have this put up or shut up policy. If you can do better, rather than bad mouthing the players, why not play in the tournament. I think these posters need to remember to stake their own reputation instead of others, first and foremost.
Flash is by all records a respectable pro, not in the least up to TMNT's credibility of his intentions in the actions he takes. The fact that he has surpassed a starcraft pro is no less the same as rain whenever he wants to compete that he can return to the scene. It is silly to try to malign more knowledgeble people such as flash and rain. They have better checkpoints to understand where they stand in the game. What might seem ignorance might be prospective patience until their skills, or the their opponents are ready for a burst into the scene. Let's face it, these players don't have the tenacity of JyJ and Soulkey. Those are true grinders.

TMNT never said he could do better lmao, so why would they challenge Flash?
If you hide the name of Flash and look at that record, it gives you the impression of someone who is slightly better than Royal/JYJ (just a rough estimation). You think that level is not enough for ASL?

I mean it’s right here. TMNT thinks Flash’s current level is more than respectable/competitive. He’s not saying he’s some scrub lmao


This might be lost in translation, but I'm saying he should, otherwise not claim to know any better. It is very irritating to watch a no name attach flash's name as catchphrase to present his conspiracy theories. It is doubly irritating when said player is under rehabilitation and he is being very shortsighted when talking about a disease he cannot treat to argue whether it exists at all. I tried reasoning with it before bringing forth medical information. His response is total silence.

The conspiracy theory of *checks notes*, observing that Flash has quite a lot of games logged, and decent, but not outstanding records by his standards?

Your counter-points would be totally valid if they weren’t in response to claims not even being made in the first place.

Flash at 80%, 90% or whatever arbitrary number we stick on it is still good enough to be competitive in ASL.

Flash may have the kind of mentality where he doesn’t like competing if he can’t show 95-100% of his potential, plenty have that mentality nothing wrong with that.

It’s less a conspiracy theory and more the logical conclusion that that, or something similar is the case.

If, however Flash’s game activity falls off a cliff for the next week while, the logical conclusion would shift to him being physically unable to play this edition.

I don't get it when people assume they have the capacity to weigh in on a matter as heavy as 4 time ASL winner Flash. What is more, this is also a medical issue. Just looking at numbers on a paper, can you point out which era a player is? Jaedong kept playing albeit losing to flash. Hence I say, put up, or shut up as fighting game casters say.
This is flash we are talking about. I told this before: the guy made his entrance doing cheese against Bisu, the player who stopped Savior become bonjwa who would become bonjwa himself if flash wasn't around. Don't compare him with shuttle who takes every opportunity he can. Flash is not fooling around, ever.
PS: you ok with tmnt underestimating flash? I'm not.

What on Earth are you even talking about? How is basically any of your post even relevant to the topic?

Your inability to respond to what people actually say is as embarrassing as your fawning over Flash as if he’s some kind of god among mortals that nobody has the right to even question under any circumstance whatsoever.

Thoroughly ridiculous stuff. I mean not as ridiculous as ‘Protoss are idiots for fast expanding’ or ‘rushing a Queen to infest a command centre is better than standard mutas’, but pretty ridiculous.

Ironically with those you claim to know better than seasoned pros, but for this topic for some reason you think plebs shouldn’t be allowed an opinion and Flash’s word is law.


First, no one shames flash when his wrist suffers and he plays goliaths to win. There is more than one way to skin a dog. FE is STUPID and the scores speak for itself. Every player who tried to FE has either turned a blind eye to gameplay, or has outright been ridiculed. Protoss has incredible odds at winning when they play early aggression. FE is not fast, nor is it expanding properly. We saw how bad FE is. Just look at snow vs soulkey on troy. Yeah, that bad. A good strategy works all the time, not just one time. Just because you are stupid at cutting corners, you cannot gloat at playing FE.
I told you I play zerg, don't ever try to teach me how I play zerg. Queens are prime zerg material. Every zerg player at their prime have played queens. It is almost a benchmark at zerg strategy, just like wraiths are for terran.
Flash's word is law until you claim 4ASLs yourself.
PS: to give flash analogy. Until Royal is about to win 3 ASLs under his belt and JYJ swoops in, puts a stop to that and is about to win 3 ASLs himself, then you show up at thirteen years old and win 4 ASLs will you be able to judge flash. That is what he just did. Let me kindly remind you of that.
Turrican
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26572 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-19 21:53:21
July 19 2025 21:53 GMT
#230
On July 20 2025 04:25 Timebon3s wrote:
Just ignore him, he lives in his own bubble and does not read what he’s responding to.
He’s either a troll or just very very not smart.

See - above.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1112 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-19 22:28:51
July 19 2025 22:21 GMT
#231
Most of you haven't considered that Flash is right-handed.
Especially you, TMNT. Its so frustrating to see you arguing with everybody without even considering the fact that the guy is right-handed.
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway764 Posts
July 20 2025 07:52 GMT
#232
So what exactly? Does that really matter?
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4478 Posts
July 20 2025 08:20 GMT
#233
On July 20 2025 16:52 Timebon3s wrote:
So what exactly? Does that really matter?


I think he's poking fun at the people arguing with TMNT.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10035 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-20 16:18:44
July 20 2025 09:29 GMT
#234
On July 20 2025 03:41 Kraekkling wrote:
[image loading]


Based on the image you sent, it looks like you're trying to figure out the area of a triangle on a coordinate plane.

Here's how you can do it:

Understanding the Vertices
The image shows a triangle with the following vertices (corner points):

A: (-3, 1)

B: (2, 3)

C: (0, -2)

Calculating the Area
You can use the determinant formula (also known as the shoelace formula) to find the area of a triangle given its vertices:

Area =
2
1
​
∣(x
1
​
(y
2
​
−y
3
​
)+x
2
​
(y
3
​
−y
1
​
)+x
3
​
(y
1
​
−y
2
​
))∣

Let's plug in the coordinates:

x
1
​
=−3, y
1
​
=1

x
2
​
=2, y
2
​
=3

x
3
​
=0, y
3
​
=−2

Area =
2
1
​
∣(−3(3−(−2))+2(−2−1)+0(1−3))∣
Area =
2
1
​
∣(−3(5)+2(−3)+0(−2))∣
Area =
2
1
​
∣(−15−6+0)∣
Area =
2
1
​
∣−21∣
Area =
2
1
​
×21
Area =10.5 square units

Alternative Method: Base and Height
If you prefer, you could also calculate the length of one side (the base) using the distance formula and then find the perpendicular height to that base. However, this method can be more complex if the sides aren't aligned with the axes.

For example, let's find the length of side AB:
Length AB =
((2−(−3))
2
+(3−1)
2
)

Length AB =
((5)
2
+(2)
2
)

Length AB =
(25+4)

Length AB =
29

Then, you would need to find the equation of the line passing through A and B, and calculate the perpendicular distance from point C to that line. This is generally more involved than the determinant formula.

The area of the triangle with vertices (-3, 1), (2, 3), and (0, -2) is 10.5 square units.


hehe ya thx im a bigger genius than every1 else in this dicsuccion


ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Shinrei
Profile Joined February 2007
United States241 Posts
July 20 2025 13:13 GMT
#235
On July 20 2025 18:29 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2025 03:41 Kraekkling wrote:
[image loading]


Based on the image you sent, it looks like you're trying to figure out the area of a triangle on a coordinate plane.

Here's how you can do it:

Understanding the Vertices
The image shows a triangle with the following vertices (corner points):

A: (-3, 1)

B: (2, 3)

C: (0, -2)

Calculating the Area
You can use the determinant formula (also known as the shoelace formula) to find the area of a triangle given its vertices:

Area =
2
1
​
∣(x
1
​
(y
2
​
−y
3
​
)+x
2
​
(y
3
​
−y
1
​
)+x
3
​
(y
1
​
−y
2
​
))∣

Let's plug in the coordinates:

x
1
​
=−3, y
1
​
=1

x
2
​
=2, y
2
​
=3

x
3
​
=0, y
3
​
=−2

Area =
2
1
​
∣(−3(3−(−2))+2(−2−1)+0(1−3))∣
Area =
2
1
​
∣(−3(5)+2(−3)+0(−2))∣
Area =
2
1
​
∣(−15−6+0)∣
Area =
2
1
​
∣−21∣
Area =
2
1
​
×21
Area =10.5 square units

Alternative Method: Base and Height
If you prefer, you could also calculate the length of one side (the base) using the distance formula and then find the perpendicular height to that base. However, this method can be more complex if the sides aren't aligned with the axes.

For example, let's find the length of side AB:
Length AB =
((2−(−3))
2
+(3−1)
2
)

Length AB =
((5)
2
+(2)
2
)

Length AB =
(25+4)

Length AB =
29

Then, you would need to find the equation of the line passing through A and B, and calculate the perpendicular distance from point C to that line. This is generally more involved than the determinant formula.

The area of the triangle with vertices (-3, 1), (2, 3), and (0, -2) is 10.5 square units.


hehe ya thx im a bigger genius than every1 else in this dicksuccion




Definitely not AI generated
=^.^=
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3137 Posts
July 22 2025 06:12 GMT
#236
On July 19 2025 23:12 WombaT wrote:
Flash at 80%, 90% or whatever arbitrary number we stick on it is still good enough to be competitive in ASL.

Flash's results yesterday in Major Proleague is a good example to demonstrate this point.

Beat Royal x2, Mini, Snow. Lost to Best. MVP performance. And it is off the back of a 10-day break for him. I don't know how much he can get better by grinding as many games as he wants, but if that's the performance he can pull off after a 10-day break, he was certainly good enough to play the previous ASL and the upcoming one.

(by the way, the 10-day break is likely related to his university activity, since Soulkey, Soma, Bisu all had a break in that exact time frame - Soulkey in fact hasn't even came back yet).
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
July 22 2025 11:08 GMT
#237
On July 20 2025 22:13 Shinrei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2025 18:29 TT1 wrote:
On July 20 2025 03:41 Kraekkling wrote:
[image loading]


Based on the image you sent, it looks like you're trying to figure out the area of a triangle on a coordinate plane.

Here's how you can do it:

Understanding the Vertices
The image shows a triangle with the following vertices (corner points):

A: (-3, 1)

B: (2, 3)

C: (0, -2)

Calculating the Area
You can use the determinant formula (also known as the shoelace formula) to find the area of a triangle given its vertices:

Area =
2
1
​
∣(x
1
​
(y
2
​
−y
3
​
)+x
2
​
(y
3
​
−y
1
​
)+x
3
​
(y
1
​
−y
2
​
))∣

Let's plug in the coordinates:

x
1
​
=−3, y
1
​
=1

x
2
​
=2, y
2
​
=3

x
3
​
=0, y
3
​
=−2

Area =
2
1
​
∣(−3(3−(−2))+2(−2−1)+0(1−3))∣
Area =
2
1
​
∣(−3(5)+2(−3)+0(−2))∣
Area =
2
1
​
∣(−15−6+0)∣
Area =
2
1
​
∣−21∣
Area =
2
1
​
×21
Area =10.5 square units

Alternative Method: Base and Height
If you prefer, you could also calculate the length of one side (the base) using the distance formula and then find the perpendicular height to that base. However, this method can be more complex if the sides aren't aligned with the axes.

For example, let's find the length of side AB:
Length AB =
((2−(−3))
2
+(3−1)
2
)

Length AB =
((5)
2
+(2)
2
)

Length AB =
(25+4)

Length AB =
29

Then, you would need to find the equation of the line passing through A and B, and calculate the perpendicular distance from point C to that line. This is generally more involved than the determinant formula.

The area of the triangle with vertices (-3, 1), (2, 3), and (0, -2) is 10.5 square units.


hehe ya thx im a bigger genius than every1 else in this dicksuccion




Definitely not AI generated

Do you really think people would try to pratend to be smart on the internet?
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1207 Posts
July 22 2025 14:57 GMT
#238
On July 22 2025 20:08 SenorChang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2025 22:13 Shinrei wrote:
On July 20 2025 18:29 TT1 wrote:
On July 20 2025 03:41 Kraekkling wrote:
[image loading]


Based on the image you sent, it looks like you're trying to figure out the area of a triangle on a coordinate plane.

Here's how you can do it:

Understanding the Vertices
The image shows a triangle with the following vertices (corner points):

A: (-3, 1)

B: (2, 3)

C: (0, -2)

Calculating the Area
You can use the determinant formula (also known as the shoelace formula) to find the area of a triangle given its vertices:

Area =
2
1
​
∣(x
1
​
(y
2
​
−y
3
​
)+x
2
​
(y
3
​
−y
1
​
)+x
3
​
(y
1
​
−y
2
​
))∣

Let's plug in the coordinates:

x
1
​
=−3, y
1
​
=1

x
2
​
=2, y
2
​
=3

x
3
​
=0, y
3
​
=−2

Area =
2
1
​
∣(−3(3−(−2))+2(−2−1)+0(1−3))∣
Area =
2
1
​
∣(−3(5)+2(−3)+0(−2))∣
Area =
2
1
​
∣(−15−6+0)∣
Area =
2
1
​
∣−21∣
Area =
2
1
​
×21
Area =10.5 square units

Alternative Method: Base and Height
If you prefer, you could also calculate the length of one side (the base) using the distance formula and then find the perpendicular height to that base. However, this method can be more complex if the sides aren't aligned with the axes.

For example, let's find the length of side AB:
Length AB =
((2−(−3))
2
+(3−1)
2
)

Length AB =
((5)
2
+(2)
2
)

Length AB =
(25+4)

Length AB =
29

Then, you would need to find the equation of the line passing through A and B, and calculate the perpendicular distance from point C to that line. This is generally more involved than the determinant formula.

The area of the triangle with vertices (-3, 1), (2, 3), and (0, -2) is 10.5 square units.


hehe ya thx im a bigger genius than every1 else in this dicksuccion




Definitely not AI generated

Do you really think people would try to pratend to be smart on the internet?


Pretend.
JDON MY SOUL!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3137 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-26 21:31:21
July 26 2025 21:30 GMT
#239
Flash is boasting a 80+% win rate in July in Major Proleague, destroying almost everyone left and right. In set 2 (winners league) he's always had 3, 4 or 5 kills.

80% win rate. So yeah, he's good enough to play ASL, for whatever the practice regime he's doing at the moment, and after 1 month since resuming play after the surgery.
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1493 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-07-30 23:50:53
July 30 2025 23:50 GMT
#240


Pretty much confirms it's mostly form thing that made his 1st announcement when he was down low xd
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