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FriedrichNietzsche
Profile Joined January 2024
92 Posts
February 07 2024 06:53 GMT
#21
On February 07 2024 13:52 RowdierBob wrote:
Pretty rough losing to a bbs when you go pool first.



Isnt it almost a hard counter?
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13000 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-09 07:04:46
February 07 2024 09:20 GMT
#22
On February 07 2024 15:53 FriedrichNietzsche wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2024 13:52 RowdierBob wrote:
Pretty rough losing to a bbs when you go pool first.



Isnt it almost a hard counter?

Yeah he really shouldn’t have lost. From watching the replay I’m guessing he thought he’d back off after seeing the overpool. Hard to see if he made drones instead of lings given we didn’t see full replay. But yeah, you shouldnt lose to a BBS if you go pool first.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands775 Posts
February 07 2024 10:44 GMT
#23
On February 07 2024 18:20 RowdierBob wrote:
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On February 07 2024 15:53 FriedrichNietzsche wrote:
On February 07 2024 13:52 RowdierBob wrote:
Pretty rough losing to a bbs when you go pool first.



Isnt it almost a hard counter?

Yeah he really shouldn’t have lost. From watching the replay I’m guessing he thought he’d back off after seeing the overpool. Hard to see if he made drones instead of lings given we didn’t see full replay. But yeah, you should lose to a BBS if you go pool first.

usually the zerg would pull drones to leverage the fight and win. Kim myung wun mentiond this and JD also pointed it out. He seemed to assume he could get away with cutting corners because his opponent was a "nobody". Which is undersrandable. cutting corners to get an economic advantage sometimes works. but here he just way underestimated.
JDON MY SOUL!
Xeln4g4
Profile Joined January 2005
Italy1209 Posts
February 07 2024 14:54 GMT
#24
funny video
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8081 Posts
February 07 2024 15:04 GMT
#25
I guess the skill-gap between pros and amateurs is a lot bigger now but I remember in the kespa days the qualifiers for OSL/MSL were pretty tough. Even S-class players would sometimes fail them. Famously Savior didn't even qualify for OSL until 2007 at the peak of his career and winning several MSLs, becoming a royal roader even though he was the most feared player on the scene.
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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1525 Posts
February 07 2024 15:43 GMT
#26
lol deception classic mm push since 1998, never dies
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6172 Posts
February 07 2024 18:17 GMT
#27
Ha poor Zero.. Grats to the terran.
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States341 Posts
February 07 2024 19:02 GMT
#28
lol Queen lost to Shuttle on day 1 and immediately got round1/2'd the next day, what a tragedy
End1ess
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada73 Posts
February 08 2024 17:11 GMT
#29
So funny Calm keep rubbing on Queen his a salaryman needs to work night shift.
engineNOVA
Profile Joined April 2021
United States67 Posts
February 08 2024 17:43 GMT
#30
Great vod. Thank you jinjin! Makes me feel good to know this can happen to anyone.
With lings like these, who needs friends?
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway651 Posts
February 08 2024 18:24 GMT
#31
Harsh donations. Poor Queen.

Nice desktop background though, very cozy.
Soft_General_5023
Profile Joined December 2023
70 Posts
February 08 2024 19:23 GMT
#32
quite funny but if you lose pool first vs bbs there is only one person to blame

thank you for the translation jinjin, please continue
Comedy
Profile Joined March 2016
455 Posts
February 08 2024 19:30 GMT
#33
there is definitely a moment in time before the hatchery finishes where 2 rax production vs 1 hatch ling production is pretty dangerous vs the zerg. you'd have to be very technically sound to perfectly defend it everytime.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2242 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-08 23:25:10
February 08 2024 23:24 GMT
#34
welcome to protoss

On February 07 2024 15:53 FriedrichNietzsche wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2024 13:52 RowdierBob wrote:
Pretty rough losing to a bbs when you go pool first.



Isnt it almost a hard counter?



No hardcounter when execution is trash
StarCraft & Audax Italiano
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
February 08 2024 23:38 GMT
#35
Why didn't he get a sunken up asap?
#1 Terran hater
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines526 Posts
February 09 2024 00:52 GMT
#36
tvz the most statistically imba matchup, according to both 8million rep analysis of 2400+ players and also eloboard results. damn terrans apes
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
February 09 2024 04:29 GMT
#37
On February 09 2024 09:52 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
tvz the most statistically imba matchup, according to both 8million rep analysis of 2400+ players and also eloboard results. damn terrans apes


Isn't ZvP the most imbalanced?
#1 Terran hater
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1400 Posts
February 09 2024 05:56 GMT
#38
On February 09 2024 13:29 Highways wrote:
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On February 09 2024 09:52 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
tvz the most statistically imba matchup, according to both 8million rep analysis of 2400+ players and also eloboard results. damn terrans apes


Isn't ZvP the most imbalanced?


He's trying to imply balance was factor here when Queen just played way too cocky/half assed and unexpectedly lost lol
End1ess
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada73 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-26 22:08:24
August 26 2024 22:08 GMT
#39
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Jinjin can't wait for you to make another Queen reaction video
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