EPTMouse wheel scrolling speed
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Ucmh
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WGT-Baal
France3462 Posts
Please keep us informed on how it goes, meanwhile i ll try it too | ||
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MeSaber
Sweden1235 Posts
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MineraIs
United States846 Posts
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Cheesefome
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Comedy
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26457 Posts
On June 05 2023 04:39 Comedy wrote: sadly you can't adjust the setting for brood war drag scroll. Try playing SC2. I really don’t understand why because I’ve never found it to be anything other than unusable It’s a pity, I think for most many cases it is better than other methods, has its drawbacks too but it’s a useful tool | ||
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outscar
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Ucmh
6 Posts
On June 05 2023 09:20 outscar wrote: BTW fun fact: one of the best, if not the best player in the world finnish zerg Serral plays using ONLY drag scrolling to move his screen. He NEVER goes to corner with his mouse to move his screen which is insane. Well that's the way it should be. Why would you go MOVE MOUSE TO EDGE + MOVE SCREEN + MOVE MOUSE BACK when you can just go HOLD BUTTON + MOVE SCREEN? | ||
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Ucmh
6 Posts
On June 05 2023 04:39 Comedy wrote: sadly you can't adjust the setting for brood war drag scroll. Try playing SC2. No, not in-game. Looking at Windows settings, there also seems to be nothing. I use an Xtrfy mouse, but the associated official software doesn't recognize my mouse and therefore doesn't work. Is there perhaps software from another brand that's free and available for mice of different brands? | ||
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Comedy
469 Posts
On June 05 2023 23:37 Ucmh wrote: No, not in-game. Looking at Windows settings, there also seems to be nothing. I use an Xtrfy mouse, but the associated official software doesn't recognize my mouse and therefore doesn't work. Is there perhaps software from another brand that's free and available for mice of different brands? the drag scroll is a game specific setting. you can never change it with software or drivers as far as im aware. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26457 Posts
On June 05 2023 09:20 outscar wrote: BTW fun fact: one of the best, if not the best player in the world finnish zerg Serral plays using ONLY drag scrolling to move his screen. He NEVER goes to corner with his mouse to move his screen which is insane. It’s insane that more people don’t do it tbh, you can keep your mouse reliably centred the majority of the time, which seems pretty advantageous. Does he really never do it? I’ll have to keep a closer eye on his streams haha. I think there are good use cases for hitting the mouse to the edge of the screen. Retreating and attack while stutter stepping, especially if you’re splitting being one. Perhaps I’m still not a full convert and it’s not 100% naturally ingrained in me but it definitely feels more natural/simple to move in/out of the edge of your screen the ‘old fashioned’ way. | ||
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MeSaber
Sweden1235 Posts
Using middle-click scrolling is inprecise at best and waste more time than it saves. Most pros dont even side-scroll at all because it isnt necessary. You jump through your locations by hotkeying buildings/locations(f-keys) and thats how you move the viewport most efficient. Lesson here is hotkeys/location hotkeys = good, side-scrolling/map-scrolling/middleclick-scrolling = bad. Best to learn the correct way while ure a noob because later its difficult to change bad habits. I play this new game called 'BAR' and asked a fellow PRO why he doesnt use hotkeys more, he said back in the day in 'Total Annihilation' you didnt have hotkeys so he got used to never use em and now cant change his behaviour. | ||
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Ucmh
6 Posts
On June 06 2023 04:47 Comedy wrote: the drag scroll is a game specific setting. you can never change it with software or drivers as far as im aware. Oh OK. If you hold and drag in a web browser for instance, that movement has a certain speed, so there is an equivalent for mouse work outside of BW. | ||
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Ucmh
6 Posts
On June 06 2023 14:48 MeSaber wrote: If you have a look at pros how they use their mouse after side-scrolling from an edge youll notice they dont want the mouse centralized as it waste time, once you find your target on the edge you click then use hotkeys/location hotkeys to get back to where you are 'working'. Using middle-click scrolling is inprecise at best and waste more time than it saves. Most pros dont even side-scroll at all because it isnt necessary. You jump through your locations by hotkeying buildings/locations(f-keys) and thats how you move the viewport most efficient. Lesson here is hotkeys/location hotkeys = good, side-scrolling/map-scrolling/middleclick-scrolling = bad. Best to learn the correct way while ure a noob because later its difficult to change bad habits. I play this new game called 'BAR' and asked a fellow PRO why he doesnt use hotkeys more, he said back in the day in 'Total Annihilation' you didnt have hotkeys so he got used to never use em and now cant change his behaviour. That's totally unrealistic. Yes, hotkeys are great and you should use them a lot, but there are many instances still where you will want to scroll the screen. That goes for pros as well. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26457 Posts
On June 06 2023 14:48 MeSaber wrote: If you have a look at pros how they use their mouse after side-scrolling from an edge youll notice they dont want the mouse centralized as it waste time, once you find your target on the edge you click then use hotkeys/location hotkeys to get back to where you are 'working'. Using middle-click scrolling is inprecise at best and waste more time than it saves. Most pros dont even side-scroll at all because it isnt necessary. You jump through your locations by hotkeying buildings/locations(f-keys) and thats how you move the viewport most efficient. Lesson here is hotkeys/location hotkeys = good, side-scrolling/map-scrolling/middleclick-scrolling = bad. Best to learn the correct way while ure a noob because later its difficult to change bad habits. I play this new game called 'BAR' and asked a fellow PRO why he doesnt use hotkeys more, he said back in the day in 'Total Annihilation' you didnt have hotkeys so he got used to never use em and now cant change his behaviour. BW pros constantly screen-scroll when moving armies around and fighting. All the time. Scroll wheel scrolling is mostly more efficient here, if it actually worked in BW, which it doesn’t due to settings because you keep your mouse centred. So come to that jump to your base or your macro facilities you’re reliably centred on that stuff already Versus screen scrolling where you can be at the edge of your screen before jumping to something else and have to move accordingly You want your mouse centred, otherwise you wouldn’t have your building hotkeys and camera hotkeys centred Nothing you said was particularly accurate. Wheel button scrolling just outright doesn’t work in BW, but it’s objectively the better way to do it in most scenarios | ||
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XenOsky
Chile2355 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + sux | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26457 Posts
Being completely uncontrollable and uneditable will do that | ||
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MeSaber
Sweden1235 Posts
On June 08 2023 06:21 Ucmh wrote: That's totally unrealistic. Yes, hotkeys are great and you should use them a lot, but there are many instances still where you will want to scroll the screen. That goes for pros as well. Which instances are you referring to? Dont get confused with what i mean by scrolling, if you need to move your screen to move a unit in a battle thats totally understandable, but you shouldnt move from your base to battle using scroll, thats a hotkey action. To give a great example of perfect usage of hotkeys and as little scrolling as possible: | ||
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tec27
United States3702 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26457 Posts
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Ucmh
6 Posts
On June 08 2023 08:03 MeSaber wrote: if you need to move your screen to move a unit in a battle thats totally understandable, but you shouldnt move from your base to battle using scroll, thats a hotkey action. OK, that's something very different from "Most pros dont even side-scroll at all" which you said before. | ||
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Mutaller
United States1051 Posts
The best starcraft 2 players switched to this even players that didn't before, because if you need to move your units downward, you don't need scroll down then move your mouse back up to click. Also when you're dynamically moving your units around this will be the most effective method since you can see where your units are going before you even press, and your mouse will always be in the middle of your screen | ||
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dopa041
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I know I am late to answer but I have found a solution. I always use scroll wheel to move in sc2, only that I have it bound to "e" instead since I like that keybind more, this way I dont need to move my right pointerfinger of left mouse button. Anyway, the solution is this: Use a autohotkey script that lowers the sensitivity of your mouse while holding down scroll button, in my case this is E. This is my full ahk script that works very well for me, you can use any ai to tailor it to your specific needs: #NoEnv SendMode Input SetWorkingDir %A_ScriptDir% #Persistent SetBatchLines -1 ; Sätt känsligheten när `E` hålls ned lowDPI := 2 ; Den känslighet du vill när `E` hålls nere (justera om du vill ha långsammare) isPaused := false ; När `E` hålls ned, ändra musens känslighet till lägre e:: ; Hämta nuvarande musens hastighet innan vi ändrar DllCall("SystemParametersInfo", "UInt", 113, "UInt", 0, "UInt", lowDPI, "UInt", 2) SendInput, {MButton down} ; Skickar mittklick när `E` hålls ned KeyWait, e SendInput, {MButton up} ; Släpper mittklick när `E` släpps ; Återställ musens känslighet (vi sätter tillbaka till standardvärdet när `E` släpps) DllCall("SystemParametersInfo", "UInt", 113, "UInt", 0, "UInt", 10, "UInt", 2) return ; Pausa scriptet med höger Ctrl RControl:: Suspend return | ||
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