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jinjin5000
United States1451 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/MUwZSoL.png) 2022 has been very eventful year for StarCraft streamer with revitalization of scene with tons of viewers with starcraft university content. Golden opportunity for tons of streamers. Really shows how much of an opportunity past 2 years has been for StarCraft streamers in Korea, with it overtaking league as #1 streamed game during the period but now it's over, who knows what will happen going forward. all info publicly tracked and available on https://poong.today/ | ||
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oxKnu
1210 Posts
Pretty decent for all of these guys, although SK is quite expensive, so it's not a fortune as some might think. | ||
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A.Alm
Sweden531 Posts
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Shinokuki
United States923 Posts
On December 20 2022 16:06 oxKnu wrote: You have to subtract at least 40% from that. That's Afreeca's cut. Pretty decent for all of these guys, although SK is quite expensive, so it's not a fortune as some might think. Nope. Partner bjs get 80% so only 20%. Britney gets advertisement (around ~300k) and youtube ads (around 200k). all in all his estimated income is around 1.1M ~ 1.5M | ||
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jinjin5000
United States1451 Posts
On December 20 2022 16:12 A.Alm wrote: Is their main income through balloons, and is this income from 2022 alone? 2022 alone and that just depends on each playerse | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8745 Posts
On December 20 2022 16:06 oxKnu wrote: You have to subtract at least 40% from that. That's Afreeca's cut. Pretty decent for all of these guys, although SK is quite expensive, so it's not a fortune as some might think. i dont know what your benchmark is for living standards, but relative to my living costs, sk is not expensive at all. and objectively if these guys are all making in the hundreds of thousands, they are all living like kings in korea. | ||
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TT1
Canada10011 Posts
btw how come there's no love for Soulkey? he just doesn't stream enough? | ||
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LUCKY_NOOB
Bulgaria1496 Posts
On December 21 2022 02:34 TT1 wrote: dayum and here i am eating the anti inflation diet of champions, lentils and rice btw how come there's no love for Soulkey? he just doesn't stream enough? Hopefully didn't get scammed out of his balloons too... | ||
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A.Alm
Sweden531 Posts
On December 20 2022 16:15 jinjin5000 wrote: 2022 alone and that just depends on each playerse Some of the people from that list have 30-100~ viewers and 100-200~ viewers on their afreeca stream vods. How are they making 200 000$ / year from donations alone? For comparison, Bonyth has 1-2k viewers on his vods (currently 150 live viewers) and Artosis has 15~k viewers on his vods with avg 1600 viewers. Many of the korean brood war streamers also seem to have quite basic living conditions, which doesn't make sense if they're making that money. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4220 Posts
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Peeano
Netherlands5167 Posts
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ppp87
Laos250 Posts
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jinjin5000
United States1451 Posts
On December 21 2022 03:37 A.Alm wrote: Some of the people from that list have 30-100~ viewers and 100-200~ viewers on their afreeca stream vods. How are they making 200 000$ / year from donations alone? For comparison, Bonyth has 1-2k viewers on his vods (currently 150 live viewers) and Artosis has 15~k viewers on his vods with avg 1600 viewers. Many of the korean brood war streamers also seem to have quite basic living conditions, which doesn't make sense if they're making that money. Spon system and university system | ||
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outscar
2832 Posts
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RJBTV
194 Posts
On December 21 2022 03:37 A.Alm wrote: Some of the people from that list have 30-100~ viewers and 100-200~ viewers on their afreeca stream vods. How are they making 200 000$ / year from donations alone? For comparison, Bonyth has 1-2k viewers on his vods (currently 150 live viewers) and Artosis has 15~k viewers on his vods with avg 1600 viewers. Many of the korean brood war streamers also seem to have quite basic living conditions, which doesn't make sense if they're making that money. Koreans don't really watch vods much. Its mostly high level players who watch vods to learn from others. | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9029 Posts
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A.Alm
Sweden531 Posts
On December 21 2022 10:04 RJBTV wrote: Koreans don't really watch vods much. Its mostly high level players who watch vods to learn from others. I'm not saying the ratio between live/vod viewers are different, i'm saying they're both low for the amount of donation money. I hope they get a fair cut of the donation income, so BW will continue to strive. | ||
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oxKnu
1210 Posts
On December 21 2022 06:00 ppp87 wrote: I think some people are donating to some streamers to build up a prizepool for tournaments between top players every day, am I right ? Yes, and the SC University system. Although the top streamers do get their own donations (Britney, Rain etc) for a lot of Top BW players the money gets spread out through the proleague prize system. At least a decent part of it. Pretty cool system, it helps out some of the lesser popular streamers that are good at the game get a slice of the pie. | ||
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TMNT
2951 Posts
On December 21 2022 03:37 A.Alm wrote: Some of the people from that list have 30-100~ viewers and 100-200~ viewers on their afreeca stream vods. How are they making 200 000$ / year from donations alone? For comparison, Bonyth has 1-2k viewers on his vods (currently 150 live viewers) and Artosis has 15~k viewers on his vods with avg 1600 viewers. Many of the korean brood war streamers also seem to have quite basic living conditions, which doesn't make sense if they're making that money. I don't think any names on that list only have 30-100 viewers on their stream. Normally the least of them would have about hundreds of viewers. Maybe sometimes they'd have 30-100 viewers due to viewer migration to other streams for a specific event. But the main reason is that Korean viewers have a much bigger wallet than foreign viewers. I mean, for the Proleague system, 8 players just casually gather almost the entire budget of a BSL season in 15 minures, EVERY DAY. | ||
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oxKnu
1210 Posts
For example for ProLeague prize-pools, usually what happens is that the losing team has to donate the gathered balloons to the winning team. I don't think they're subtracted from the initial balance. Would lead to a flatter distribution, and less money in general. | ||
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