New season has started!

On September 09 2022 06:03 WGT-Baal wrote:


They did.

Tbh if that is the only issue we run into, instead of bugs, crashes, lag etc, i ll take it.

But tbh it d be cool to have some admin group to talk to Blizzard once in a while. Let s say ASL, KCM, BSL and us (bwcl). And deathfate and the main SA leagues too.

On September 10 2022 06:52 jchassoul wrote:
damn late ox, just copy and paste this:

Cydra , Please change the old versions of ladder maps into the latest versions.
The latest versions are now used in ASL Season 14.
Using the latest version of maps is very important thing to users.

butter 1.4 → butter 2.0
allegro1.1b → allegro 1.1c
Vermeer 1.3 → Vermeer SE 2.1

And Most starcraft users want Neo Sylphid 3.0 (New Version)
Please Put it in and Extract ‘Metaverse’
Please Cydra… as soon as possible…

Thank you for your service.

On September 09 2022 23:54 bovienchien wrote:
We were so tired because we have to play 7 maps in 11 months. Then we have a new map pool with 6 maps from last season. A new map is (4) Metaverse 1.2 and some guys want to remove it.

new

(2) Butter 1.4 = (2) Eclipse 1.2

(2) Eclipse 1.2 again

(4) Allegro 1.1b = (4) Largo 1.5

(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3 again

(4) Metaverse 1.2 is the best map in this season

(4) Polypoid 1.65 again

(4) Vermeer 1.3 = (4) Allegro 1.1b = (4) Largo 1.5 = (4) Fighting Spirit 1.3 = (4) Polypoid 1.65

old

(2) Eclipse 1.2

(3) Ascension 1.0

(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3

(4) Good Night 1.3

(4) Largo 1.5

(4) Polypoid 1.65

(4) Revolver 1.0

I believe that the best map pool for 91.99% players:

(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3

(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3

(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3

(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3

(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3

(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3

(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3

They will be happy to play in this map pool forever

On September 13 2022 02:42 ThunderJunk wrote:
Hey, at least they gave us a new map pool. Let's be happy about that.

Big question: Why doesn't Blizzard just update the map pool using ASL maps, and start each season at the same time as the ASL season? That would take away any/all burden of conceptual decision-making and it would just be a matter of 30 minutes worth of implementation every season.

Any ideas?

Like, casual players could just veto the 3 weird maps and it would work out fine.

On September 18 2022 21:13 WGT-Baal wrote:


Doing god s work here~

Asking for update is good. Asking for other maps is counter productive right after they finally changed it (after a year), if they see too much negative feedback they may just give up entirely.
Maps are ok. FS is mandatory due to korea, rest is alright. Ladder should just be a stepping stone to tournament play anyway.

On September 22 2022 23:00 WGT-Baal wrote:


you could ask them to forward to the developer too.

But then also maybe ask if there is a way to setup some sort of trusted point of contact? I would nominate ZZZero for the foreign scene, I m sure Blizzard would know who he is.

With an agreement of only specific topics permitted: map version, ladder reset, key battlenet problems. Build some trust and then eventually have ZZZero (+ any other they might feel is relevant, like the ASL or KCM folks) in the loop before a new ladder season to get the right map versions and not repeat the issue (this is the 2nd or 3rd time already).

GL with that, may be PM ZZZero too to check he d be ok ^^
If they d like more people, I d be happy to help as well (I m the BWCL head admin + I am decent in Korean). I used to have good contacts with David Kim and Kim Phan (she was always phenomenal!) back in my WGT/WCG days but they both left and I dont have any contacts left.

TL,DR: having a safe and trusted way to interact between the community and the blizzard developer in a way that s comfortable for Blizzard would be great, whatever the conditions and limitations they feel they need

EDIT: Scan, or Jinjin: do you know if there is a similar push from the KR scene to get the ladder updated?

On September 23 2022 04:24 tec27 wrote:

Which part of any of this situation gives you any reason to believe there is someone inside of Blizzard to talk to at all? That there is literally even a single person working on SC:R full time? Or even half time? Or even 1 day a week?

This problem that you're trying to solve here isn't the problem at hand

On September 23 2022 17:25 BlueStar wrote:


Yeah, the ticket was about the current issue. They are just tech support guys that are there just to communicate with users (gamers) and help people when they face technical issues.

However, we don't have a sufficient way to communicate anything beyond that - even crucial and urgent problems such as the situation we've been in for half a month.

From what I understood they don't have a way to communicate/collaborate between the teams.
- I just provided my feedback in this direction. It's not a great customer experience when the team who supports you, don't have any way to escalate problems to other teams.
They should fix their internal communication. But that's a story for another time.

Glad everything looks fine now and we finally have a proper map pool for this ladder season.

On September 23 2022 19:27 tec27 wrote:

Thank you for explaining to me how tech support works, I do understand that. It seems you may not understand how TL works. My reply was not to you, but to a reply to your post (Baal's), suggesting they have people maintain some kind of contact with the community. To do that, you would have to have a team working on the game. They don't.

The problem here isn't that "they don't communicate between the teams". You cannot communicate anything to a team that does not exist. Every time Blizzard fixes one of these issues, they've clearly just pulled some random person off another team, told them "go work on this today", they do, the problem gets resolved (if we're lucky), and they go back to their regularly scheduled duties (wherever those might be, it's certainly not SC:R).

At this point we're up to about ~5 straight days of the whole userbase complaining to fix major server outages, and ~15 to fix them uploading a completely half-assed map pool. It's only gonna get worse from here, so strap in I guess.

On September 24 2022 16:26 Dante08 wrote:
Nice so they took out Metaverse and put in Sylphid?