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KAGA100MAN
Profile Joined October 2017
12 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-23 15:59:53
June 23 2021 06:32 GMT
#1
I encountered this today.

I thought at first it was merely a gas trick but something was different.
SCV is walking through buildings! and his super-stacked SCVs just sat on my cc and started attacking it.

After the game, I watched a replay and saw SCV walked through the water and high grounds.

He made collision-check-free SCV one by one by doing something to the SCV building a supply depot.

Is this a new glitch?

Here is a replay
www.mediafire.com
EDIT: here is a youtube link
www.youtube.com
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2040 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-23 10:44:59
June 23 2021 10:43 GMT
#2
Too lazy to download a replay, can you record and put on yt? :D

I just opened https://tl.net/video/streams/Jumperer stream and he just lost to this hack. ;-)
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
June 23 2021 13:57 GMT
#3
@koget - can you up the link with correct time plz.. im too lazy
-.-
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2040 Posts
June 23 2021 13:58 GMT
#4
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1064953250

01:19:00
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9510 Posts
June 23 2021 15:41 GMT
#5
Here's the clip for easier watching:



Also, a side note, Jumperer is back!
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
earob84
Profile Joined October 2017
Germany175 Posts
June 23 2021 15:47 GMT
#6
this is the replay from first post.
What a crazy glitch check this out:

https://trovo.live/video/ltv-102373215_102373215_1624462964?ltab=videos



NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
June 23 2021 16:14 GMT
#7
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
June 23 2021 18:00 GMT
#8
It's up to the one unpaid intern still maintaining StarCraft to fix this error.
Good luck, kid.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
June 23 2021 18:01 GMT
#9
This has to be patched out or StarCraft is over
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2297 Posts
June 23 2021 18:02 GMT
#10
I had a guy do this to me today but he failed hard.... i was able to attack 1 by 1 some of his scvs and he didnt have alot to do alot of dps...
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
June 23 2021 18:10 GMT
#11
Jeez, thx for the great bugfixing recently blizzard.
Broodwar for life!
lost dedicated
Profile Joined June 2021
41 Posts
June 23 2021 18:30 GMT
#12
Come on guys, Blizzard is just a small indie dev company. Cut the unpaid intern some slack, he's doing his best to fix this between all the coffees he's passing around the office.
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
June 23 2021 19:15 GMT
#13
only terran can counter the flying SCV imo. I also lost to flying scv couple ladder games, and I had to use flying SCV to fight back his flying SCVs.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6638 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-23 19:24:52
June 23 2021 19:24 GMT
#14
Happened to me earlier, the guy took each one of his SCVs, had them constructing the depot for half a second, then took it off and put the next one on, once all 10 of them had had their turn on the depot the SCVs floated right across the map to get me...
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3701 Posts
June 23 2021 19:27 GMT
#15
Really easy to repro once you know how (which I will avoid discussing so it doesn't become more prevalent). We'll get it fixed on ShieldBattery soon, I have a feeling Blizzard lacks the dev expertise to do it for their servers though.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
earob84
Profile Joined October 2017
Germany175 Posts
June 23 2021 19:51 GMT
#16
Bonyth just got scv'ed to death
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5126 Posts
June 23 2021 20:37 GMT
#17
On June 24 2021 04:27 tec27 wrote:
Really easy to repro once you know how (which I will avoid discussing so it doesn't become more prevalent). We'll get it fixed on ShieldBattery soon, I have a feeling Blizzard lacks the dev expertise to do it for their servers though.

<3
FBH #1!
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
June 23 2021 21:02 GMT
#18
On June 24 2021 04:27 tec27 wrote:
Really easy to repro once you know how (which I will avoid discussing so it doesn't become more prevalent). We'll get it fixed on ShieldBattery soon, I have a feeling Blizzard lacks the dev expertise to do it for their servers though.

ShieldBattery <3
Mine gas, build tanks.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
June 23 2021 21:36 GMT
#19
On June 24 2021 04:27 tec27 wrote:
Really easy to repro once you know how (which I will avoid discussing so it doesn't become more prevalent). We'll get it fixed on ShieldBattery soon, I have a feeling Blizzard lacks the dev expertise to do it for their servers though.

So out of curiosity: since when is that glitch possible? Is that a sc:r thing or was that also possible in 1.16 and nobody ever tried it?
Broodwar for life!
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12237 Posts
June 23 2021 22:13 GMT
#20
On June 24 2021 06:36 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2021 04:27 tec27 wrote:
Really easy to repro once you know how (which I will avoid discussing so it doesn't become more prevalent). We'll get it fixed on ShieldBattery soon, I have a feeling Blizzard lacks the dev expertise to do it for their servers though.

So out of curiosity: since when is that glitch possible? Is that a sc:r thing or was that also possible in 1.16 and nobody ever tried it?


Apparently it doesn't happen in 1.16.
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tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3701 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-23 22:46:19
June 23 2021 22:45 GMT
#21
On June 24 2021 07:13 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2021 06:36 Cele wrote:
On June 24 2021 04:27 tec27 wrote:
Really easy to repro once you know how (which I will avoid discussing so it doesn't become more prevalent). We'll get it fixed on ShieldBattery soon, I have a feeling Blizzard lacks the dev expertise to do it for their servers though.

So out of curiosity: since when is that glitch possible? Is that a sc:r thing or was that also possible in 1.16 and nobody ever tried it?


Apparently it doesn't happen in 1.16.


Yeah, SC:R only, likely a result of some change to unit's command queueing to fix other hacks/exploits (although we're not entirely sure yet).
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
8882
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
2718 Posts
June 24 2021 00:16 GMT
#22
It is the old "scv stacking" glitch, which is partially connected to flying scv.

Flying scv / gas trick was on that 20 starcraft tricks map, since forever.

Scv stacking was like 2006?
I have returned
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3701 Posts
June 24 2021 00:41 GMT
#23
On June 24 2021 09:16 8882 wrote:
It is the old "scv stacking" glitch, which is partially connected to flying scv.

Flying scv / gas trick was on that 20 starcraft tricks map, since forever.

Scv stacking was like 2006?

No, this is not the same thing. The SCV in this case remains in an uncollideable state forever (unless you start building a building). This was not possible in 1.16, and is a change that occurred at some point during SC:R's lifetime
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
lost dedicated
Profile Joined June 2021
41 Posts
June 24 2021 01:29 GMT
#24
On June 24 2021 04:27 tec27 wrote:
Really easy to repro once you know how (which I will avoid discussing so it doesn't become more prevalent). We'll get it fixed on ShieldBattery soon, I have a feeling Blizzard lacks the dev expertise to do it for their servers though.

Can I just say thank you so much for ShieldBattery. The effort this scene puts into keeping things going is unprecedented and very appreciated.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-24 03:33:01
June 24 2021 03:30 GMT
#25
(gods the zerg version of the new glitch is tricky to do gave up after 4 drones)

also its not entirely uncollideable, for example on FS u cannot go through the cliff behind the nat if u approach it from the nat side, but u can go through if coming from the water side.

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NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
June 24 2021 03:37 GMT
#26
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Volka
Profile Joined December 2010
Argentina410 Posts
June 24 2021 04:04 GMT
#27
Lol
I remember last year some did this to me with his first 4 Drones. Killed me and then gg'ed out of the game.
http://www.starsite.com.ar
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-24 05:20:41
June 24 2021 05:19 GMT
#28
I had to do flying SCV to fight back vs BBQGOLD
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Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
Dewaltoss
Profile Joined October 2015
102 Posts
June 24 2021 06:15 GMT
#29
This shit is completely ruin ladder. GG starcraft is over
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2040 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-24 07:52:22
June 24 2021 07:51 GMT
#30
Flash sending his divine weapon to help out terran brothers.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
frontliner2
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands844 Posts
June 24 2021 08:28 GMT
#31
ridiculous shit.

Let's make a bet to see how long it will take Bobby-Activision to fix this!

My bet is that it will never get fixed.
I had a bad dream. Don't be afraid, bad dreams are only dreams. What a time you chose to be born in...
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4203 Posts
June 24 2021 09:09 GMT
#32
Fuck sake...
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-24 10:46:23
June 24 2021 10:41 GMT
#33
It's this one all over again. It was patched awhile back but it seems it's back online:



Also not gonna say it but u are all thinking it... T S G
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
blackmanpl
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
65 Posts
June 24 2021 11:37 GMT
#34
Hero's stream today, the game is worth watching, he almost managed to win it

Optimate
Profile Joined August 2020
249 Posts
June 24 2021 15:22 GMT
#35
Good to see the metagame is evolving again.
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-24 18:41:05
June 24 2021 18:40 GMT
#36
On June 24 2021 12:30 ggsimida wrote:
(gods the zerg version of the new glitch is tricky to do gave up after 4 drones)

also its not entirely uncollideable, for example on FS u cannot go through the cliff behind the nat if u approach it from the nat side, but u can go through if coming from the water side.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



That's more or less the normal behaviour for units on unwalkable ground though. What was different for you to get the Drone onto the water to begin with is the question.
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
June 24 2021 20:00 GMT
#37
PATCH IT OUT HOLY FUCK
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
June 24 2021 20:10 GMT
#38
for tournaments it is a non issue but for ladder .. ;/
hatred outlives the hateful
IvaNioX2
Profile Joined September 2018
96 Posts
June 24 2021 20:29 GMT
#39
for ladder is ilegal too,

should we create public list and ban from tournaments those players?

should we spam blizzard forum with cheaters ids?

#nomercyforcheaters
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
June 24 2021 20:50 GMT
#40
On June 24 2021 00:41 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Here's the clip for easier watching:

https://clips.twitch.tv/HedonisticFineCobraDoggo-c3MgJYNSldNuAaLw

Also, a side note, Jumperer is back!

That rooster crowing at 21s.
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
June 24 2021 22:14 GMT
#41
Patch just hit now.

Did they fix it?
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9510 Posts
June 24 2021 22:20 GMT
#42
On June 25 2021 07:14 Dromar wrote:
Did they fix it?

Nope
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6634 Posts
June 25 2021 00:49 GMT
#43
chinese txt in game is back :/
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
June 25 2021 04:52 GMT
#44
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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2040 Posts
June 25 2021 07:19 GMT
#45
Well seems that ShieldBattery may actually be the only way going forward. ;-)
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
GiftPflanZe
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Germany623 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-25 10:49:00
June 25 2021 10:45 GMT
#46
On June 25 2021 09:49 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
chinese txt in game is back :/


Just played the same guy three times. First time he did flying SCV; I obviously lost. Then he tried 2 fac, he lost, third game I think(?) it was normal ,but I also had chinese text on my screen. How?and what does it say, anyone knows?
...
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12237 Posts
June 25 2021 13:31 GMT
#47
On June 25 2021 19:45 GiftPflanZe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2021 09:49 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
chinese txt in game is back :/


Just played the same guy three times. First time he did flying SCV; I obviously lost. Then he tried 2 fac, he lost, third game I think(?) it was normal ,but I also had chinese text on my screen. How?and what does it say, anyone knows?


The Chinese government mandates that game companies who do business in China adhere to regulations requiring them to notify players when they have been gaming beyond a reasonable amount of time. Obviously, this therefore means that the message is not intended to be shown to non-Chinese players, and is therefore a bug.

Blizzard has attempted to fix the issue and isolate the message to the China region three times now over the past week, and rolled it back twice when they were unsuccessful. Since you're still seeing it now, that means another likely rollback.
Moderator
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
June 25 2021 15:12 GMT
#48
Still no sign of another season. I thought the ladder would be reset by now. What do you think the odds are they just never reset now and it has basically been abandoned?
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
June 25 2021 15:22 GMT
#49
On June 26 2021 00:12 SolaR- wrote:
Still no sign of another season. I thought the ladder would be reset by now. What do you think the odds are they just never reset now and it has basically been abandoned?

We have 3 seasons every years.

2019 Season 1 03/02 (dd/mm)

(2) Cross Game
(2) Overwatch
(3) Neo Medusa
(4) Circuit Breaker
(4) Colosseum II
(4) Fighting Spirit
(4) Neo Ground Zero

2019 Season 2 10/07
(2) Overwatch
(2) Tres Pass
(3) Power Bond
(4) BlockChainSE 2.1
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3
(4) Circuit Breakers 1.0
(4) Gladiator 1.1

2019 Season 3 20/11
(2) Destination
(2) Heartbreak Ridge
(3) Neo_Sylphid
(3) Whiteout
(4) Circuit Breaker
(4) Fighting Spirit
(4) Gladiator

2020 Season 1 14/02
(2) Hitchhiker 1.2
(2) New Bloody Ridge
(3) Neo_Sylphid 2.0
(4) La Mancha 1.1
(4) Escalade
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3
(4) Circuit Breakers 1.0

2020 Season 2 29/05
(2) Eclipse
(2) Match Point
(3) New Sylphid
(3) Reap the Storm
(4) Polypoid
(4) Fighting Spirit
(4) Circuit Breakers

2020 Season 3 09/10
(2) Benzene
(2) Eclipse
(3) Plasma
(4) Circuit Breakers
(4) Polypoid
(4) Ringing Bloom
(4) Fighting Spirit

2021 season 1 10/02
(2) Benzen 1.1
(2) Eclipse 1.2
(3) Plasma 1.0
(4) Optimizer 1.0
(4) Polypoid 1.6
(4) Ringing Bloom SE 2.0
(4) Shakuras Temple 1.1

StarCraft have good maps so much, but why terrible maps always are in map pool? Even they are chosen again more times.
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
June 25 2021 16:03 GMT
#50
This would be my mapppool.

Match Point
Neo Sylphid
Eclipse
Polypoid
Fighting Spirit (i know a lot are sick of this map but its not plasma, and keeps a lot of people happy. You can always veto)
+ 2 current ASL maps that are deemed the most balanced at the time.

This would allow you to theoretically veto both ASL maps if they end up super imba and veto FS. Giving you the rest of the map pool with a pretty balanced list of maps.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-25 16:58:29
June 25 2021 16:57 GMT
#51
Map pool needn't 100% balance maps, so we have 3 vetoes. Map pool need funny maps when you lose still get happy.

99% lose games of us are from our level. It's our fault, it's not maps' fault. You have 7 maps and 3 vetoes, if you use or not use 3 vetoes your rank will not change. You can veto some maps but you can't veto your skill, knowledge and attitude.

My map pool:

(2) Destination
(2) Broken bridge
(3) Whiteout
(3) White Dragons Valley
(4) Shakuras Temple 1.1
(4) Namja Iyagi
(4) Battle of Salsu

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https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-25 23:02:39
June 25 2021 23:02 GMT
#52
I think maybe it was built upon FBH's one. Just doing it more times and stacking the SCVs later on

3 mintues 49 seconds

ko-fi.com/luckynoob
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4338 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-26 01:17:17
June 26 2021 01:13 GMT
#53
Patch just hit now.

Did they fix it?


Actually just booted for first time in a couple weeks and i can't even load the game anymore with this new patch, the error is 'Starcraft encountered bad game data that must be repaired'.Have tried both scan + repair and uninstall+reinstall but neither worked.

Seems like i am not the only one with this problem, seems to be because of the new patch. https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/starcraft/t/starcraftremaster-encountered-bad-game-data/2327/45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
June 26 2021 01:31 GMT
#54
Yeah it seemed like a very bad patch. I also had a ton of trouble making a new profile earlier. Couldn't make or delete profiles.
lost dedicated
Profile Joined June 2021
41 Posts
June 26 2021 01:31 GMT
#55
On June 26 2021 10:13 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:
Show nested quote +
Patch just hit now.

Did they fix it?


Actually just booted for first time in a couple weeks and i can't even load the game anymore with this new patch, the error is 'Starcraft encountered bad game data that must be repaired'.Have tried both scan + repair and uninstall+reinstall but neither worked.

Seems like i am not the only one with this problem, seems to be because of the new patch. https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/starcraft/t/starcraftremaster-encountered-bad-game-data/2327/45

I can't open my game either. Thanks for all the love Blizzard 🖕
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-26 01:47:33
June 26 2021 01:46 GMT
#56
I still haven't got my award ( avatar portrait) yet. I reached B rank in this season.
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
johnnybenz
Profile Joined May 2021
United States3 Posts
June 26 2021 04:28 GMT
#57
So do we know how this SCV glitch is done? How the hell you do get an SCV flying
Its Johnny Benz, i go by plenty of nicknames. Protoss for life
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-26 10:46:55
June 26 2021 10:43 GMT
#58
On June 26 2021 13:28 johnnybenz wrote:
So do we know how this SCV glitch is done? How the hell you do get an SCV flying


Yes couple foreigners know, most of Korean users know now. Ladder, Fastest, Public, UMS...
Here's another one I played vs flying SCV on ladder today.

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Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1188 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-26 11:20:56
June 26 2021 10:58 GMT
#59
A prolonged season means that the user profile data and game data is not reset which can cause let's say issues in their case (I think they're using Google Cloud for that stuff).

My point would be they do want to move to a new season for the data reset but apparently they have so much trouble with that China regulatory feature that they can't prioritize it anymore and basically swimming in rollback's and hotfixes.

A grade support this game has.

I'm so excited to try out the new Diablo remastered game. /s
npnl19
Profile Joined August 2016
Russian Federation27 Posts
June 26 2021 11:32 GMT
#60
server with 1.16.1 support would be fun
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6634 Posts
June 26 2021 12:04 GMT
#61
Oh man.They dont even communicate in blizzard forums. Next season is planed for.. We are looking at the glitch. nothing really.
lost dedicated
Profile Joined June 2021
41 Posts
June 26 2021 12:52 GMT
#62
Can we just bring back 1.16.1? I know how to run 1.16.1 in a resizable window if that's helpful to anyone..
johnnybenz
Profile Joined May 2021
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-26 17:48:00
June 26 2021 17:45 GMT
#63
[QUOTE]On June 26 2021 19:43 LaStScan wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 26 2021 13:28 johnnybenz wrote:
So do we know how this SCV glitch is done? How the hell you do get an SCV flying [/QUOTE]

Yes couple foreigners know, most of Korean users know now. Ladder, Fastest, Public, UMS...
Here's another one I played vs flying SCV on ladder today.


Thank you for reply
Its Johnny Benz, i go by plenty of nicknames. Protoss for life
Newblish
Profile Joined November 2004
Canada116 Posts
June 27 2021 21:03 GMT
#64
Honestly, I have no faith in blizzard whatsoever at this point. BW has needed team ladder for years now, so to think that even that would ever happened whilst they're "dealing" with all of these bugs is just a pipe dream. If they're not actively trying to fix the bugs that they themselves created in the first place they'd just be upgrading unit portraits and causing other bugs on a daily basis. It's over.

Senator[LighT]
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3701 Posts
June 28 2021 02:34 GMT
#65
We have a fix for this exploit in testing for ShieldBattery, once we ensure that it doesn't break anything, we'll get it right out.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2040 Posts
June 28 2021 07:29 GMT
#66
On June 28 2021 11:34 tec27 wrote:
We have a fix for this exploit in testing for ShieldBattery, once we ensure that it doesn't break anything, we'll get it right out.


Nice tec.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
lost dedicated
Profile Joined June 2021
41 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-28 16:32:22
June 28 2021 16:18 GMT
#67
On June 28 2021 11:34 tec27 wrote:
We have a fix for this exploit in testing for ShieldBattery, once we ensure that it doesn't break anything, we'll get it right out.

Words like Taiwan and Hong Kong are also banned in some parts of the latest patch, such as channel names and user ID's. Will SB be subject to this censorship as well or is that also something that can be worked around?

Thank you so much for all of your efforts! I can't wait for SB to take off.

edit: this censorship is not on the rolled back patch if you're logged into the asia gateway on bnet app and server (the server select menu to the right of the play button in the app, not the asia server in-game)
Leonix
Profile Joined June 2019
161 Posts
June 28 2021 16:42 GMT
#68
Glitch is to easy to do. Meh


MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-28 18:47:52
June 28 2021 18:30 GMT
#69
Yeah agree. Game is ruined until its fixed for sure.
-.-
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
June 28 2021 18:52 GMT
#70
On June 24 2021 04:27 tec27 wrote:
Really easy to repro once you know how (which I will avoid discussing so it doesn't become more prevalent). We'll get it fixed on ShieldBattery soon, I have a feeling Blizzard lacks the dev expertise to do it for their servers though.


That is just wrong though. The more people that know it the more ruined the game is the more people will complain on forums the more reason Activision has to fix it.
-.-
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway702 Posts
June 28 2021 21:30 GMT
#71
Yeah and those who really want to cheat will be able to figure it out anyways
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3701 Posts
June 28 2021 21:39 GMT
#72
I mean it's very easy to figure out given that we have a rep with it in the OP, but given that Blizzard has approximately 0 people with any knowledge of the game, can't seem to even roll back obviously bad patches in a reasonable timeframe (let alone not release them at all), and is generally completely unresponsive, the only path we have to not make their ladder completely insufferable is to keep it vaguely obscure. I'm not interested in sabotaging their platform even if I provide a competing one, so I'm not gonna give you step-by-step instructions on how to do this.

Regardless, we'll have a complete fix for this issue deployed to ShieldBattery in an hour or so.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
June 28 2021 22:50 GMT
#73
Thanks tec and the rest of the SB team!!
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12237 Posts
June 28 2021 22:54 GMT
#74
On June 29 2021 03:52 MeSaber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2021 04:27 tec27 wrote:
Really easy to repro once you know how (which I will avoid discussing so it doesn't become more prevalent). We'll get it fixed on ShieldBattery soon, I have a feeling Blizzard lacks the dev expertise to do it for their servers though.


That is just wrong though. The more people that know it the more ruined the game is the more people will complain on forums the more reason Activision has to fix it.


In a normal development environment, the hotter the fire gets, the faster it gets put out. So that's absolutely true. However, Brood War is a 23-year-old game built on hacky solutions on top of other hacky solutions designed to plug pinhole leaks in the hull as they appeared, meaning the people best suited to resolve issues are people who have extensive firsthand legacy knowledge. And none of those people are still with the company. Therefore, its situation is anything but normal. The community needs to step in and slow the spread of the fire where they can, whether it be not fanning the flames by spreading repro steps, or whether it's ShieldBattery's method of creating a parallel environment where the fire has already been extinguished.
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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2040 Posts
June 29 2021 08:02 GMT
#75
The only thing we need is to have a report funcion and ban accounts of these abusers based on 1 replay evidence. ;/
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
June 29 2021 09:29 GMT
#76
On June 29 2021 17:02 kogeT wrote:
The only thing we need is to have a report funcion and ban accounts of these abusers based on 1 replay evidence. ;/

This seems a bit harsh, given that this is not a hack but a bug of the game itself. Not every one who screws around once deserves to be banished.
SpaNiarD
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Spain346 Posts
June 29 2021 10:07 GMT
#77
On June 29 2021 18:29 Freakling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2021 17:02 kogeT wrote:
The only thing we need is to have a report funcion and ban accounts of these abusers based on 1 replay evidence. ;/

This seems a bit harsh, given that this is not a hack but a bug of the game itself. Not every one who screws around once deserves to be banished.


Actually I think they do. This bug is not something that you may accidentally trigger but something that needs some research and practice, so you would do it on purpose and need to be punished for it.

I already lost some games due to this bug and I'm really worried this will get more and more common and will break the game (if nobody at Blizzard fixes it).
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
June 29 2021 10:28 GMT
#78
I just tried this bug in a 3v3 game flying an scv over hatcheries command centers of my enemies. They didnt even care to type anything xD

Laughed my ass off how little response i got.

Its mainstream already xD
-.-
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4203 Posts
June 29 2021 12:39 GMT
#79
need to make Artosis promote SB a bit somehow, maybe..
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
earob84
Profile Joined October 2017
Germany175 Posts
June 29 2021 13:44 GMT
#80
we need obs mode in SB. With that we can host Showmatches, Tournaments on SB. this would be somewhat of a Promo.
QuadroX
Profile Joined August 2017
386 Posts
June 29 2021 13:56 GMT
#81
We also need Koreans to switch to SB somehow. If it's foreigner-only server then it will be hard to find games (long queue times).
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
June 29 2021 14:34 GMT
#82
The funniest thing about this is how mad it's made Artosis.
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Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
311 Posts
June 29 2021 17:45 GMT
#83
I dont blame him, it honestly pisses me off too. Its mostly the fact that they have full control of the stack. Normally when people stack they have to shift attack and that can mve countered easily. Hard to counter a stack of 5-7 scvs 3 mins into the game.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1188 Posts
June 29 2021 18:02 GMT
#84
On June 29 2021 23:34 renaissanceMAN wrote:
The funniest thing about this is how mad it's made Artosis.


Probably because he's the only foreigner making cash out of streaming Broodwar.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4203 Posts
June 29 2021 19:15 GMT
#85
On June 30 2021 03:02 oxKnu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2021 23:34 renaissanceMAN wrote:
The funniest thing about this is how mad it's made Artosis.


Probably because he's the only foreigner making cash out of streaming Broodwar.

Yeah and he also actually genuinely likes competing, I feel like.

Wondering when will this be fixed.. if ever..
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
QuadroX
Profile Joined August 2017
386 Posts
June 30 2021 13:51 GMT
#86
It pisses me off so much when Blizzard just keeps being silent about everything.

I see better approach being used from other much smaller gaming studios (e.g. Grimlore with Spellforce 3). They actually communicate to the community even if they are unable to keep working on the project..

I'd like to see Blizzard come on their forums and say something like this: We are aware of this issue, it takes a long time to fix it and make sure everything else is not broken, our team is very small right now (1 developer) and the rest if focused on upcoming Diablo 2 remake. Once the remake is out we put more people on SC:R, reset the ladder, maybe get your team matchmaking and then fix Warcraft Reforged as well (surely it's not the case).

Why it's so hard for them to be transparent? People will understand if they don't have resources, or something is particularly challenging to fix. Just f**ing say it! Admit your failures, show us some progress, do something. It hurts so much, like they absolutely give zero fcks about their iconic games like SC1 and War3.
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
June 30 2021 13:57 GMT
#87
Well mate its not Blizzard anymore, its Activision. Completely different blokes who only cares about money.
-.-
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-01 12:19:38
July 01 2021 11:48 GMT
#88
Can some1 tell me how to do it in PMs? I can't seem to figure it out. I like to test things like that in single player.


Figured it out.
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8290 Posts
July 02 2021 12:25 GMT
#89
SHARP is showing us how to beat it !!



Good work Sharp !
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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-02 12:45:59
July 02 2021 12:45 GMT
#90
^ you need build barrack and depot supply near command center. When you get flying scvs, you build a bunker and buy a marine, bring the great soldier into bunker. That's it.

Important thing, you have to build the first buildings near each other to bunker can protect them. Flying scvs is free win for me.
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Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
July 02 2021 14:00 GMT
#91
On July 02 2021 21:25 prosatan wrote:
SHARP is showing us how to beat it !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QZKiVycr34

Good work Sharp !


Wow ! Nice fight from Sharp.

Probably the longest TvT I've watch in months... and its about an scv glitch. Weird.
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
earob84
Profile Joined October 2017
Germany175 Posts
July 02 2021 14:07 GMT
#92
wow, great Sharp!
wishbonesaka
Profile Joined June 2016
Canada117 Posts
July 02 2021 15:53 GMT
#93
does anyone remember that time when someone had to make a ums micro map to ward off stacked SCV like Sharp does?
kidcrash
Profile Joined September 2009
United States620 Posts
July 03 2021 03:38 GMT
#94
On July 02 2021 21:25 prosatan wrote:
SHARP is showing us how to beat it !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QZKiVycr34

Good work Sharp !


So just use pro level control and still only beat it by the thinnest of margins! EZ PZ
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
July 03 2021 05:27 GMT
#95
Is this not getting fixed? Is this what StarCraft is going to be from now on?
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
311 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-03 06:11:42
July 03 2021 06:10 GMT
#96
Blizzard could care less they are just here to torture anyone who has plans to develop their own league or compromise any intentions made to make the game better where they dont benefit. Even When they do, they still somehow manage to ruin the fun.

I hate blizzard now. Always thought people are dramatic but I get it now.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8290 Posts
July 03 2021 08:52 GMT
#97
On July 03 2021 12:38 kidcrash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2021 21:25 prosatan wrote:
SHARP is showing us how to beat it !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QZKiVycr34

Good work Sharp !


So just use pro level control and still only beat it by the thinnest of margins! EZ PZ

Good one kidcrash !!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
earob84
Profile Joined October 2017
Germany175 Posts
July 03 2021 10:05 GMT
#98
Next BSL ladder season on shieldbattery?
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2906 Posts
July 06 2021 16:57 GMT
#99
On June 24 2021 03:00 vOdToasT wrote:
It's up to the one unpaid intern still maintaining StarCraft to fix this error.
Good luck, kid.


This is so true I just died laughing LOL
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
July 06 2021 17:03 GMT
#100
Sharp is the man. Love the resilience of coming up with counters even though the opponent is blatantly cheating.
Mine gas, build tanks.
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
July 06 2021 17:04 GMT
#101
On July 03 2021 19:05 earob84 wrote:
Next BSL ladder season on shieldbattery?

I wish. Sadly I don't think there are enough players as of now on SB to be able to host a ladder qualifier.
Mine gas, build tanks.
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2906 Posts
July 06 2021 17:04 GMT
#102
This bug literally just ruins the already rough ladder experience to the point that it's hard to even bring myself to play this game at all right now.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
July 06 2021 18:25 GMT
#103
On July 07 2021 02:04 Akio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2021 19:05 earob84 wrote:
Next BSL ladder season on shieldbattery?

I wish. Sadly I don't think there are enough players as of now on SB to be able to host a ladder qualifier.


Hosting a major tournament thats broadcasted is probably still to much of a hassle, since SB does not provide Obs mode so far i imagine.
Broodwar for life!
IvaNioX2
Profile Joined September 2018
96 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-06 18:56:13
July 06 2021 18:52 GMT
#104
Hint:

-If you use FULLSCREEN (menu options video fullscreen) with relatively high value of gamma
then you are able to know exactly the moment when terran glitch scv. (your screen monitor gamma decreases, similar to fog of war zone)

as soon as it happen, you should alt + tab, that will give you the chance to know if is only 1 scv scouter or the huge scvmagic box.


also, another clue is a strange lag when the first glitch happen*


*(if tr<<16 then forget this method)
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
July 06 2021 19:32 GMT
#105
Wow this exploit is ridiculous. Was watching a stream last night and the streamer's opponent did this. Utter crapola.
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unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
July 08 2021 01:19 GMT
#106
On June 29 2021 17:02 kogeT wrote:
The only thing we need is to have a report funcion and ban accounts of these abusers based on 1 replay evidence. ;/


While I do agree with this, there is the concern that the script could be flipped and they could accuse players defending the rush of maphacking based on reacting before they see it. The reaction of course coming from the gamma change on screen
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
July 08 2021 18:20 GMT
#107
Floating Drone is back ? oh yeah !

Remember also a gas trick that made you stack scv so you could instant repair bunkers
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Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines578 Posts
July 08 2021 23:54 GMT
#108
this doesn't seem too OP to me. can't you just stack attack and stall until your bunker/lings/zealot are done? it takes quite a while to set up a decent group of flying SCVs, + they have to scout you. since they also have to fly to your base, you will ALWAYS have the worker count advantage. if its an account known for doing the bug, that makes things even easier since you can rush sunk/fast rax/fast gate or cannon

in the english FPM community stack workers has always been legal, and any race can deal with it with ease.
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3701 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-09 03:33:16
July 09 2021 03:31 GMT
#109
On July 09 2021 08:54 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
this doesn't seem too OP to me. can't you just stack attack and stall until your bunker/lings/zealot are done? it takes quite a while to set up a decent group of flying SCVs, + they have to scout you. since they also have to fly to your base, you will ALWAYS have the worker count advantage. if its an account known for doing the bug, that makes things even easier since you can rush sunk/fast rax/fast gate or cannon

in the english FPM community stack workers has always been legal, and any race can deal with it with ease.

This is not simply worker stacking, please at least like, skim the thread or watch one of the videos or something lol

The SCVs lose all collision, meaning they can go through walls, buildings, cliffs, etc. They are like this permanently, they can attack buildings while directly on top of them. There is no community that this has "always been legal" in, because this bug wasn't even possible until recent versions of SC:R.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines578 Posts
July 09 2021 06:11 GMT
#110
On July 09 2021 12:31 tec27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2021 08:54 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
this doesn't seem too OP to me. can't you just stack attack and stall until your bunker/lings/zealot are done? it takes quite a while to set up a decent group of flying SCVs, + they have to scout you. since they also have to fly to your base, you will ALWAYS have the worker count advantage. if its an account known for doing the bug, that makes things even easier since you can rush sunk/fast rax/fast gate or cannon

in the english FPM community stack workers has always been legal, and any race can deal with it with ease.

This is not simply worker stacking, please at least like, skim the thread or watch one of the videos or something lol

The SCVs lose all collision, meaning they can go through walls, buildings, cliffs, etc. They are like this permanently, they can attack buildings while directly on top of them. There is no community that this has "always been legal" in, because this bug wasn't even possible until recent versions of SC:R.


you should take your own advice and reread my post. i'm saying to counter this flying stack bug with worker stack attack -__-
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland570 Posts
July 09 2021 06:23 GMT
#111
One thing is certain, u never actually played against it.

So u get the idea, stacked scvs can get on top of your nexus and kill it because they are out of zealot or probe range.
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-09 12:30:03
July 09 2021 12:25 GMT
#112
I don’t think whether it’s defendable or not matters. It shouldn’t be allowed. It ruins the game by being so powerful and so many people are doing it because of that. If everyone is doing this stupid bug it makes the game boring and predictable.
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-09 12:29:23
July 09 2021 12:28 GMT
#113
On July 09 2021 08:54 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
this doesn't seem too OP to me. can't you just stack attack and stall until your bunker/lings/zealot are done? it takes quite a while to set up a decent group of flying SCVs, + they have to scout you. since they also have to fly to your base, you will ALWAYS have the worker count advantage. if its an account known for doing the bug, that makes things even easier since you can rush sunk/fast rax/fast gate or cannon

in the english FPM community stack workers has always been legal, and any race can deal with it with ease.


Also it’s easier to defend in FPM. Since minerals are stacked and right by your base you have more Army and minerals to defend it when it arrives. If you don’t suspect it in regular maps you have hardly anything to defend when it arrives
lost dedicated
Profile Joined June 2021
41 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-09 15:51:56
July 09 2021 15:51 GMT
#114
On July 09 2021 15:11 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2021 12:31 tec27 wrote:
On July 09 2021 08:54 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
this doesn't seem too OP to me. can't you just stack attack and stall until your bunker/lings/zealot are done? it takes quite a while to set up a decent group of flying SCVs, + they have to scout you. since they also have to fly to your base, you will ALWAYS have the worker count advantage. if its an account known for doing the bug, that makes things even easier since you can rush sunk/fast rax/fast gate or cannon

in the english FPM community stack workers has always been legal, and any race can deal with it with ease.

This is not simply worker stacking, please at least like, skim the thread or watch one of the videos or something lol

The SCVs lose all collision, meaning they can go through walls, buildings, cliffs, etc. They are like this permanently, they can attack buildings while directly on top of them. There is no community that this has "always been legal" in, because this bug wasn't even possible until recent versions of SC:R.


you should take your own advice and reread my post. i'm saying to counter this flying stack bug with worker stack attack -__-

You can't, they can just hover over everything and they lose collision. You really should read over the thread before you start being rude to people. If it was that easy, it wouldn't be getting people into 2500 MMR
ppp87
Profile Joined May 2016
Laos250 Posts
July 09 2021 18:59 GMT
#115
new patch, maybe the bug is fixed idk
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6634 Posts
July 09 2021 20:09 GMT
#116
On July 10 2021 03:59 ppp87 wrote:
new patch, maybe the bug is fixed idk

just a rollback to patch 1.23.8.9411 on EUROPE/AMERICA . It was the case on Asia for a while.
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1594 Posts
July 09 2021 20:59 GMT
#117
Are those with the bad data error able to play again? It's been unplayable for weeks since the recent patch update.
Switching the update to Asia server didn't work for me in the past either.
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3701 Posts
July 09 2021 21:19 GMT
#118
On July 10 2021 05:59 EndingLife wrote:
Are those with the bad data error able to play again? It's been unplayable for weeks since the recent patch update.
Switching the update to Asia server didn't work for me in the past either.

Should be able to, but if switching to the Asia server didn't work then I'm not sure it's gonna be better on this patch (as it's the same one that was on Asia). Maybe try reinstalling now?
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1594 Posts
July 09 2021 22:27 GMT
#119
On July 10 2021 06:19 tec27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2021 05:59 EndingLife wrote:
Are those with the bad data error able to play again? It's been unplayable for weeks since the recent patch update.
Switching the update to Asia server didn't work for me in the past either.

Should be able to, but if switching to the Asia server didn't work then I'm not sure it's gonna be better on this patch (as it's the same one that was on Asia). Maybe try reinstalling now?

Will do. Thanks for the response.
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
311 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-10 00:51:49
July 10 2021 00:25 GMT
#120
so have they fixed it yet

havent even tried to log in because of this, makes games boring.
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3701 Posts
July 10 2021 00:38 GMT
#121
On July 10 2021 09:25 Cheesefome wrote:
so have they fixed it yet

It's unlikely that they have worked on fixing it at all, or that they even know it exists tbh
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
311 Posts
July 10 2021 03:17 GMT
#122
On July 10 2021 09:38 tec27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2021 09:25 Cheesefome wrote:
so have they fixed it yet

It's unlikely that they have worked on fixing it at all, or that they even know it exists tbh

im afraid you are correct
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
July 10 2021 06:13 GMT
#123
On July 10 2021 12:17 Cheesefome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2021 09:38 tec27 wrote:
On July 10 2021 09:25 Cheesefome wrote:
so have they fixed it yet

It's unlikely that they have worked on fixing it at all, or that they even know it exists tbh

im afraid you are correct


You can submit bug report from your Bnet acount
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Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines578 Posts
July 11 2021 00:32 GMT
#124
On July 09 2021 15:23 Bonyth wrote:
One thing is certain, u never actually played against it.

So u get the idea, stacked scvs can get on top of your nexus and kill it because they are out of zealot or probe range.


this is what i mean; even if the scv stack flies deep in the middle of your main, a stack attack can always attack their SCV stack. with stack attack, shift move your workers above or below your main, shift attack target an scv, then shift attack ground so they will attack the rest of the stack after killing the targeted SCV.
the only race that can't do this is terran because SCVs don't have as much range as drones or probes, but you can just repair or stack repair until your marine/bunk is done.
"It's the end of the BW era which i devoted everything to for 10 years. I tried playing sc2, but my BW memories run too deep; I felt like I was playing an entirely different game" -ToSsGirL
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-11 08:40:04
July 11 2021 08:26 GMT
#125
SCV at center of Nexus can be attacked by probes.

Same for Hatchery. Its only vs Terran you cant reach it (but you can with drone/probe).

https://ufile.io/gu35yl2w
-.-
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway702 Posts
July 11 2021 08:57 GMT
#126
Does it still work?
They patched the game and the auto scrolling in chat works again, so I’m curious if this got fixed as well
tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3701 Posts
July 11 2021 09:03 GMT
#127
On July 11 2021 17:57 Timebon3s wrote:
Does it still work?
They patched the game and the auto scrolling in chat works again, so I’m curious if this got fixed as well

They didn't patch anything, they just rolled it back to the same patch people have been playing on for a year or so. This is still possible across both that patch and both of the (bad) new patches they've put out recently.
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Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway702 Posts
July 11 2021 11:49 GMT
#128
Ok thx
Leonix
Profile Joined June 2019
161 Posts
July 12 2021 01:19 GMT
#129
Iam curious how comes they didnt tried a PTR first ? Isnt that the purpose how having Public test realm or whatever the name is ?
Why do such a big change without testing first? Maybe of some deadline with China laws maybe? I mean since when are these regulations required in the land of the middle?
I remember watching some documentary some years ago of how china fights game addiction with radical boot camps for children. I love the soft power of chinas legal system on the world. Like, if you dont realize now that China politic influence is growthing you will never...

Also funny that there various different typs of messages depending of how long you are playing ...xDDD.
More commitment there than any message whatsoever to the community...
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12237 Posts
July 12 2021 05:15 GMT
#130
On July 12 2021 10:19 Leonix wrote:
Iam curious how comes they didnt tried a PTR first ? Isnt that the purpose how having Public test realm or whatever the name is ?
Why do such a big change without testing first? Maybe of some deadline with China laws maybe? I mean since when are these regulations required in the land of the middle?
I remember watching some documentary some years ago of how china fights game addiction with radical boot camps for children. I love the soft power of chinas legal system on the world. Like, if you dont realize now that China politic influence is growthing you will never...

Also funny that there various different typs of messages depending of how long you are playing ...xDDD.
More commitment there than any message whatsoever to the community...


Of course you're correct, and they do in fact have a PTR for testing these changes. However, to the best of my recollection, this would be the first time they've needed to deploy a patch to only one region, and from what we've seen with patch deployment tracking bots, they're trying to release to Asia first, but then the rest of the regions catch up anyway. It may have something to do with their deployment process forcing synchronization across all their regions. I'm only speculating on that part, but it is new territory for them to only target one or two regions for patches, so there may be unforeseen consequences resulting from that.
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IvaNioX2
Profile Joined September 2018
96 Posts
July 12 2021 06:12 GMT
#131
this is important if you want beat cheaters:


On July 07 2021 03:52 IvaNioX2 wrote:
Hint:

-If you use FULLSCREEN (menu options video fullscreen) with relatively high value of gamma
then you are able to know exactly the moment when terran glitch scv. (your screen monitor gamma decreases, similar to fog of war zone)

as soon as it happen, you should alt + tab, that will give you the chance to know if is only 1 scv scouter or the huge scvmagic box.


Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
938 Posts
July 18 2021 22:32 GMT
#132
Out of curiosity, when you activate the glitch the SCV can still work or once you send them to mine it returns to normal routine?

I was wondering if the new flying glitched prop would make SCVs ignore worker bouncing and make ladder even more hell with people cheesing economy with better workers.
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MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
July 19 2021 03:47 GMT
#133
No a bugged worker mines from center of the mineral and drop off at center of CC. I.e its worse.

To unbug you need to start building something then cancel.
-.-
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-27 22:37:42
July 27 2021 22:36 GMT
#134
Looks like it's fixed (I verified it).

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/starcraft/t/hotfix-july-27-2021/2494
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Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
July 27 2021 22:50 GMT
#135
Probably done by a programmer on their lunch break. Not like Blizzard would allow an employee to actually be PAID to work on a StarCraft game anymore...
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abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1934 Posts
July 28 2021 06:46 GMT
#136
so.. now that it's fixed - how was it done anyway?
I don't believe you.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
July 28 2021 09:13 GMT
#137
Took way too long to fix.
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MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
July 28 2021 09:35 GMT
#138
On July 28 2021 15:46 abuse wrote:
so.. now that it's fixed - how was it done anyway?



What do you mean? How its done has been explained in this thread many times.
-.-
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
July 28 2021 09:39 GMT
#139
On July 28 2021 07:36 StRyKeR wrote:
Looks like it's fixed (I verified it).

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/starcraft/t/hotfix-july-27-2021/2494


Did they also remove worker stacking from gas?
-.-
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
July 28 2021 10:20 GMT
#140
On July 28 2021 07:36 StRyKeR wrote:
Looks like it's fixed (I verified it).

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/starcraft/t/hotfix-july-27-2021/2494

Way overdue, and in a sense the damage has already been done. Well, at least it's fixed.
Mine gas, build tanks.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1934 Posts
July 28 2021 12:57 GMT
#141
On July 28 2021 18:35 MeSaber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2021 15:46 abuse wrote:
so.. now that it's fixed - how was it done anyway?



What do you mean? How its done has been explained in this thread many times.


cool.
how is it done?
I don't believe you.
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1460 Posts
August 06 2021 08:27 GMT
#142
On July 28 2021 21:57 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2021 18:35 MeSaber wrote:
On July 28 2021 15:46 abuse wrote:
so.. now that it's fixed - how was it done anyway?



What do you mean? How its done has been explained in this thread many times.


cool.
how is it done?


Yes, it's finally fixed. #NEVER FORGET

You tell an SCV to make a building,

Then halt construction.

Using the same SCV you click to build it again but this time u hold Shit and spam Cancel to fill the command buffer.

When the SCV is on top of the building u hit Esc. And now u FLY MOFO.

Too many people abused it...
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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2040 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-06 09:00:41
August 06 2021 09:00 GMT
#143
Nice - I took 6 weeks break from SC and managed to not face this BS once. Now can start laddering again.
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abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1934 Posts
August 06 2021 09:57 GMT
#144
On August 06 2021 17:27 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2021 21:57 abuse wrote:
On July 28 2021 18:35 MeSaber wrote:
On July 28 2021 15:46 abuse wrote:
so.. now that it's fixed - how was it done anyway?



What do you mean? How its done has been explained in this thread many times.


cool.
how is it done?


Yes, it's finally fixed. #NEVER FORGET

You tell an SCV to make a building,

Then halt construction.

Using the same SCV you click to build it again but this time u hold Shit and spam Cancel to fill the command buffer.

When the SCV is on top of the building u hit Esc. And now u FLY MOFO.

Too many people abused it...


thanks!
also props for the "abused" thing.
I don't believe you.
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