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rararara
Profile Joined March 2021
115 Posts
March 13 2021 20:35 GMT
#1
Can somebody explain how both of these work?

I see it mentioned often on streams by Korean Pros.

Thanks!
RushHour_
Profile Joined June 2019
6 Posts
March 13 2021 23:27 GMT
#2
SponBbang is basically a 1v1 match, with a viewer betting fight money on winner. The money varies, and the matches varies from single, Bo3, to Bo7, and so on.

Proleague is a team match, 2v2, 3v3, or 4v4.
This also has sponsor for fight money, but since sponsoring 4 winners would be a little burden, usually what happens (these days) is several viewers bet on the winners. After that, the gathered players are divided into two teams randomly, they set up maps randomly, come up with a roster for games, and then fight. Like a team leagues back in good old days.

Some specifics though:

1. There are loads of viewers donating for this match. Gathring them up, a lot of times it's almost $1000 for each winner. And Bo7 might be a little short for that, so they do a first proleague Bo7 match, and then a team battle (winner keeps playing) for Bo7. If it's a tie, they go for a final ACE match.

2. For proleague, they do random matches for round 5,6,7. It's bc if one team has FlaSh and/or Bisu and the other team doesn't have a such strong ace, then the match will be a little too predictable. In order to give some randomness and fun, they randomly select players for the latter 3 rounds.


Hope this helps. Enjoy SC together!
rararara
Profile Joined March 2021
115 Posts
March 13 2021 23:59 GMT
#3
On March 14 2021 08:27 RushHour_ wrote:
SponBbang is basically a 1v1 match, with a viewer betting fight money on winner. The money varies, and the matches varies from single, Bo3, to Bo7, and so on.

Proleague is a team match, 2v2, 3v3, or 4v4.
This also has sponsor for fight money, but since sponsoring 4 winners would be a little burden, usually what happens (these days) is several viewers bet on the winners. After that, the gathered players are divided into two teams randomly, they set up maps randomly, come up with a roster for games, and then fight. Like a team leagues back in good old days.

Some specifics though:

1. There are loads of viewers donating for this match. Gathring them up, a lot of times it's almost $1000 for each winner. And Bo7 might be a little short for that, so they do a first proleague Bo7 match, and then a team battle (winner keeps playing) for Bo7. If it's a tie, they go for a final ACE match.

2. For proleague, they do random matches for round 5,6,7. It's bc if one team has FlaSh and/or Bisu and the other team doesn't have a such strong ace, then the match will be a little too predictable. In order to give some randomness and fun, they randomly select players for the latter 3 rounds.


Hope this helps. Enjoy SC together!


yes, this helps a lot, thanks for the great insight!

I first thought that the players bet money on themselves, but it's actually the viewers with points(?) during the streams?
And that means the players can't lose money?

How do they set up the matches? Are they planned in advance?

Thanks again



RushHour_
Profile Joined June 2019
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-14 00:42:43
March 14 2021 00:38 GMT
#4
On March 14 2021 08:59 rararara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2021 08:27 RushHour_ wrote:
SponBbang is basically a 1v1 match, with a viewer betting fight money on winner. The money varies, and the matches varies from single, Bo3, to Bo7, and so on.

Proleague is a team match, 2v2, 3v3, or 4v4.
This also has sponsor for fight money, but since sponsoring 4 winners would be a little burden, usually what happens (these days) is several viewers bet on the winners. After that, the gathered players are divided into two teams randomly, they set up maps randomly, come up with a roster for games, and then fight. Like a team leagues back in good old days.

Some specifics though:

1. There are loads of viewers donating for this match. Gathring them up, a lot of times it's almost $1000 for each winner. And Bo7 might be a little short for that, so they do a first proleague Bo7 match, and then a team battle (winner keeps playing) for Bo7. If it's a tie, they go for a final ACE match.

2. For proleague, they do random matches for round 5,6,7. It's bc if one team has FlaSh and/or Bisu and the other team doesn't have a such strong ace, then the match will be a little too predictable. In order to give some randomness and fun, they randomly select players for the latter 3 rounds.


Hope this helps. Enjoy SC together!


yes, this helps a lot, thanks for the great insight!

I first thought that the players bet money on themselves, but it's actually the viewers with points(?) during the streams?
And that means the players can't lose money?

How do they set up the matches? Are they planned in advance?

Thanks again






No worries, it's my pleasure, for being a Korean viewer

So yeah. If players bet by themselves, it'd be much more riskier.
It used to be like that at the beginning of SC streaming world, like 2012. But players soon felt too burdened, and PuSan[S.G] suggested such sponsored game, which continues until these days.

And SC fans who used to be students and teens have become 30s and 40s now. Their pocket is good enough to support the games, and many of them are willing to donate.
Donation is collected very well, so that most of SC streamers (especially ex gamers) make good amount. And I'm glad that they are.

They're just letting those donations to be fight money. You know, more tension on getting money, more fun.
The matchup is just set very casually. If someone is at Bisu's stream and wants to watch Bisu's some sponsored game, he may suggest Bisu to play with someone online, someone streaming. Bisu accepts it, and plays. And if Bisu wins, he gets the money. Otherwise, the opponent gets it. Generally same for proleagues, just gathering the players is a bit of more task.
rararara
Profile Joined March 2021
115 Posts
March 14 2021 15:22 GMT
#5
ok wow, very interesting!

do you know how many people donate how much per game on average?
how much are their points worth?

so if I understand correctly, the viewers donate their money but they don't get anything in return, even if they bet on the winner?

is there a way to directly support Pro-Gamers without the betting?

Thanks for clarifying. This is so different from BW in the 90ies

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