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mmhmm
Profile Joined November 2019
22 Posts
March 03 2021 03:14 GMT
#61
This is terrible. Tastosis casting ASL is my favorite thing on TV.
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
March 03 2021 03:17 GMT
#62
This is really sad. I guess ASL english stuff was doomed since they didn't want to stream on twitch anymore.
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1966 Posts
March 03 2021 03:20 GMT
#63
On March 03 2021 12:02 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2021 12:01 Xenixx wrote:
Been years since I've logged onto this but that's how strongly I feel about this move AfreecaTV. With this move you've completely lost my support, I'm not watching or supporting the ASL without an english cast. And I encourage every foreigner to do the same.

Where's the loyalty for not only the english speaking community but the casters? I've watched competitive SCBW for 20 years at this point.


This exactly.

Foreign crowdfunds an ASTL team sponsorship.

Afreeca cancels ASL english cast.
june19
Profile Joined February 2020
3 Posts
March 03 2021 03:21 GMT
#64
This is terrible news. ASL English casts were how I get into brood war. I really hope Afreeca will reconsider.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4147 Posts
March 03 2021 03:21 GMT
#65
On March 03 2021 11:49 starvingbox wrote:
ASL can't allow it to be streamed on Twitch, though. They are a streaming business - it just doesn't make sense.

It's unfortunate, but we need to think of a realistic solution within the bounds of reality.


Would there be any way for Twitch to grant an exemption to Twitch partners so that they can stream ASL on Afreeca?
DreXxiN
Profile Joined July 2010
United States494 Posts
March 03 2021 03:22 GMT
#66
So very sad about this.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4147 Posts
March 03 2021 03:22 GMT
#67
On March 03 2021 11:55 caffeine_free wrote:
Please, I understand I'm just an angry fan, but could you explain why? Surely the return on investment isn't being questions? This is very un cool to just suddenly pull (on some TL thread no less)


Has to do with cost/streamlining of activities. I'm pretty sure the foreign BW viewership has actually been growing the past 2 years but they still decided it wasn't worth the cost/effort.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 03 2021 03:25 GMT
#68
Foreign BW fans, please resist the urge to watch this once it happens. Every view on Afreeca justifies their position.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
IGotSunshine
Profile Joined December 2010
United States4 Posts
March 03 2021 03:25 GMT
#69
Really upsetting news. Tastosis casting ASL was something I always looked forward to.
Levque
Profile Joined October 2016
88 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-03 04:32:02
March 03 2021 03:25 GMT
#70
How much could the stream cost? I have a hard time believing a cheap english cast (Artosis said they took a paycut last season) doesn't turn at least a small profit. I mean the broadcast is on at 3am on youtube with zero marketing and for the bigger games I've seen the live viewers hit 15-20k. Twitch would be better but there is some conflict there I know.

Maybe covid preventing crowds/ticket sales for a full year has caused this? If so maybe when things get back up and running english cast could return? Very sad the rest of the world will be cut off from pro brood war

Still, I want to thank Afreeca and Tastosis for the 10 seasons of ASL we did get...it was amazing.
Volka
Profile Joined December 2010
Argentina411 Posts
March 03 2021 03:26 GMT
#71
Terrible news. It's not going to be the same.
http://www.starsite.com.ar
ZAWGURN
Profile Joined July 2018
96 Posts
March 03 2021 03:29 GMT
#72
Even though viewership is high i think it may have to do more with advertising? When you watch ads on the ASL stream theyre always targeted towards koreans and stuff so the foreign stream isnt getting them any money cause the ads arent for foreigners?
CJ herO #1 fan.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 03 2021 03:29 GMT
#73
On March 03 2021 12:26 Volka wrote:
Terrible news. It's not going to be the same.


It won't! Every foreigner boycott the ASL starting now.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5458 Posts
March 03 2021 03:30 GMT
#74
On March 03 2021 12:20 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Foreign crowdfunds an ASTL team sponsorship.

Afreeca cancels ASL english cast.

Kinda ironic tbh
FBH #1!
Gemini_19
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1257 Posts
March 03 2021 03:34 GMT
#75
The only reason I would ever watch BW was because Tastosis was casting it. Guess I'll be going back to no BW.
@GGemini19 GM Protoss | http://www.twitch.tv/geminisc2 | I <333 HerO & Trap | Check out my Build of the Week series on /r/allthingsprotoss, TL, or Spawning Tool
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 03 2021 03:36 GMT
#76
On March 03 2021 12:34 Gemini_19 wrote:
The only reason I would ever watch BW was because Tastosis was casting it. Guess I'll be going back to no BW.


Yep.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
cRoSsy
Profile Joined August 2019
66 Posts
March 03 2021 03:36 GMT
#77
What a sad news to hear.
Its been my honor to watch ASL with some great casters: Artosis, Tasteless etc.

Just wanna throw some thoughts on this decision.

Afreeca has been running ASL at a loss. There's a rumor in Korean BW scene the reason why Afreeca still helps BW scene is because the CEO of Afreeca is a big fan of BW, which is true. However, I believe since so many people still donate lots star balloons to the Korean streamers, Afreeca wants this scene to be alive longer. Games like LOL, PUBG have many more viewers than BW, but most BW viewers are over 20 years old, so they donate more than other games. But still, it is not as big as other games.

Most foreign streamers stream on Twitch. In order to bring foreign community over to Afreeca, AfreecaTV has been donating prizepool to NASL / Nation wars. They also opened a few LA lans. In business perspective, it is also understandable that they dont want to support anymore, since nothing comes back to them even if they do stuff at a loss.

Just my thoughts, but its very sad and disappointing to hear their decision.
mcVV
Profile Joined July 2019
7 Posts
March 03 2021 03:39 GMT
#78
On March 03 2021 12:34 Gemini_19 wrote:
The only reason I would ever watch BW was because Tastosis was casting it. Guess I'll be going back to no BW.


Ditto. I’ll be on the lookout to send my support if some kind of petition/fundraising/whatever can help undo this.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5458 Posts
March 03 2021 03:40 GMT
#79
On March 03 2021 12:34 Gemini_19 wrote:
The only reason I would ever watch BW was because Tastosis was casting it. Guess I'll be going back to no BW.

You should give BSL a chance. Gypsy and Nyoken are pretty solid casters!
FBH #1!
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
March 03 2021 03:40 GMT
#80
dark days of sc
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