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Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States364 Posts
March 03 2021 04:12 GMT
#101
Sad news... was really excited for s11 too. I hope they reconsider for s12, but I'll still be watching the korean cast I guess (not that I can understand it at all...)

Many thanks to Tastosis for heavy lifting the english casts all these years. I certainly won't enjoy the casts as much as I did with their commentary.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4131 Posts
March 03 2021 04:17 GMT
#102
On March 03 2021 12:36 cRoSsy wrote:
What a sad news to hear.
Its been my honor to watch ASL with some great casters: Artosis, Tasteless etc.

Just wanna throw some thoughts on this decision.

Afreeca has been running ASL at a loss. There's a rumor in Korean BW scene the reason why Afreeca still helps BW scene is because the CEO of Afreeca is a big fan of BW, which is true. However, I believe since so many people still donate lots star balloons to the Korean streamers, Afreeca wants this scene to be alive longer. Games like LOL, PUBG have many more viewers than BW, but most BW viewers are over 20 years old, so they donate more than other games. But still, it is not as big as other games.

Most foreign streamers stream on Twitch. In order to bring foreign community over to Afreeca, AfreecaTV has been donating prizepool to NASL / Nation wars. They also opened a few LA lans. In business perspective, it is also understandable that they dont want to support anymore, since nothing comes back to them even if they do stuff at a loss.

Just my thoughts, but its very sad and disappointing to hear their decision.


From what I know BW is constantly top 5 in afreeca viewership and sometimes 2nd, losing only to LoL. It's not as big as LoL but it's still one of the most popular games in Korea.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4131 Posts
March 03 2021 04:22 GMT
#103
On March 03 2021 12:53 Waxangel wrote:
Well, it didn't make sense for AfreecaTV to provide a product that was heavily consumed through YOUTUBE.

Though, I have to say, it sucks that they couldn't just keep on an official English stream on AfreecaTV only, even if they had to shut down the YouTube option for obvious business reasons. That seems like the obvious step to trying to get more international users to migrate to your platform, instead of just killing the official stream entirely.

Hopefully the community casts on AFTV do well enough so that they consider bringing back an official English stream, even if it's on AFTV only.


Interesting thought, did they actually shut down the YouTube option? They will still be posting the VODs to YouTube afterwards right?

Also if Afreeca could bother to update their pile of crap foreign website maybe more people will watch on Afreeca instead of YouTube.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-03 04:28:19
March 03 2021 04:27 GMT
#104
WTF? ASL is the only e-sports tournament I still watch.
Brood War loyalist
Chessz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States644 Posts
March 03 2021 04:27 GMT
#105
Damn dude. This is a bummer.
0neheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States92 Posts
March 03 2021 04:30 GMT
#106
This is extremely disappointing. I strongly recommend Afreeca reconsider this decision, as there is a significant contingent of non-Korean BroodWar fans.

It's possible that current methods to monetize this group (e.g. activities directly on afreecatv.com, which is incomprehensible to non-Koreans) are insufficient. However, I'm certain there's large enough demand to justify English casting given some creativity around monetization. After all, you're getting hundreds of thousands of views on Youtube for English ASL.
IMLyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada714 Posts
March 03 2021 04:30 GMT
#107
WTF, this is sad fucking day for StarCraft. The decision makes no sense, ASL had solid english viewership on YouTube.
I'ma show you how great I am ~ Muhammed Ali
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
March 03 2021 04:32 GMT
#108
Damn it, this isn't what I wanted to hear. Going from ASL11 announcement to this is terrible. I really hope we can continue on some how, either afreeca can be made to reconsider or we can 3rd party it somehow.
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
March 03 2021 04:33 GMT
#109
guess I'll just start watching ping pong. . . .
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sntct
Profile Joined February 2018
100 Posts
March 03 2021 04:37 GMT
#110
On March 03 2021 11:11 AfreecaTVGlobal wrote:
Dear Fans,

It’s unfortunate for us today to announce that the ASL will no longer be supported in English.

It has been the most exciting adventure for us to share the ASL with fans all over the world.
We thank you for all of your love and support over the years.

The ASL will continue and can be watched at afreecatv.com/afstar1.

Communities and English casters are still allowed, and encouraged, to broadcast the ASL to their own fans through our clean feed on their AfreecaTV Channels.
If you are interested, please contact us here!

Thank you,
AfreecaTV


Hello, after Coronavirus ends, bring back ASL English Cast OK?
Hazard17
Profile Joined September 2020
6 Posts
March 03 2021 04:37 GMT
#111
.....So...
HotsnDots
Profile Joined March 2021
1 Post
March 03 2021 04:43 GMT
#112
Something to point out that I haven't yet seen.

Starcraft was made in America. The game would simply not exist without its English creation first. This is SC's history in raw form.

AfreecaTV is a multi million dollar streaming platform.

People who are throwing out " It's just business Hurrrrr" don't get that they could if they wanted too. They simply don't.
And that is a slap into the face of the legacy of this game. It doesn't matter if they took this game and made it their own with a culture that supported young kids no lifing the game for most of their lives, do you know what my parents would have done on my farm growing up if I told them i wanted to "main" a computer game? I cant even.

NOT TO MENTION people like Artosis/Tastless who took extreme risk moving to Korea and dedicating their professional lives basically to the E-sports of a computer game. I wonder if Artosis would have had four kids if he knew a few years after all these companies he dedicated his life too and worked his ass off for would shaft him for a pittance of their bottom line.
NOT TO MENTION Tasteless, who doesn't get the same viewership on twitch etc who will be hurting EVEN MORE. I'm actually infuriated for them.

you do you AfreecaTV, but don't act like money was the supreme bottom line. Protoss mains the whole lot of you, I sense no honor.

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nicrone
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia9 Posts
March 03 2021 04:47 GMT
#113
Sad times
Rimasuta
Profile Blog Joined August 2017
United States3 Posts
March 03 2021 04:49 GMT
#114
Long time lurker, but just wanted to say I’m devastated by this decision
브루드 워가 영원히!
fredchuckdave
Profile Joined March 2021
2 Posts
March 03 2021 04:49 GMT
#115
On March 03 2021 13:12 Plume wrote:
Sad news... was really excited for s11 too. I hope they reconsider for s12, but I'll still be watching the korean cast I guess (not that I can understand it at all...)


I was mentally preparing for this, watching ASTL isn't half bad if you've watched all 10 ASL seasons (and the Dabang Team Battle), you can even cast it for yourself when you start seeing what's going on etc. If you're good at casting you might realize that zerglings and mutalisks will be built in ZvZ for example.
skycycle
Profile Joined April 2016
Netherlands36 Posts
March 03 2021 04:51 GMT
#116
Afreeca please reconsider this decision, we need ASL in English!
Mar Sara Separatist
MineraIs
Profile Joined September 2020
United States846 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-03 05:31:13
March 03 2021 04:56 GMT
#117
Posting your sad comments in this thread will likely not be seen by afreeca company.

I would suggest posting on their afreeca profile with your stories here:

https://bj.afreecatv.com/afstar1/post/69355213
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Kuks
Profile Joined March 2018
43 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-03 05:03:31
March 03 2021 05:02 GMT
#118
I am not a camera person, a feature of phones I wish at times like these I wish I used more and had more experience with. I am so upset with myself for not taking better or more pictures.

[image loading]

I have been looking forward to seeing Artosis and Tasteless casting in Afreeca's new building, guess I never will. Tearing up thinking I saw their last live audience cast of greatest game ever made.
MinixTheNerd
Profile Joined July 2019
200 Posts
March 03 2021 05:02 GMT
#119
This is truly heart-breaking news, I understand that they might want to cut costs during the pandemic but as a fan of both StarCraft games I would be okay with them downsizing the English cast to just 1 commentator while still covering both tournaments. That way we still get coverage and the casters can alternate.
ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
796 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-03 05:12:19
March 03 2021 05:03 GMT
#120
I came back to StarCraft after my friend PrimaOne persuaded me to watch ASL Season 9 last year. Watching Artosis and Tasteless cast ASL got me into the game again. Before I knew it, I was logging online to play, reactivating my friendly clan, creating a discord server, starting a fun showmatch series and trying to contribute to the wonderful foreign Brood War community. That's the effect Arty and Nick had on me and most likely many others.

ASL you have been very good to the foreign community. But you have also been very fortunate to have such a dedicated and talented English casting duo, not to mention a faithful fan base outside of Korea. I do sincerely hope a solution can be found to correct this disappointing situation for both communities.
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