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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 03 2021 03:42 GMT
#81
On March 03 2021 12:40 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2021 12:34 Gemini_19 wrote:
The only reason I would ever watch BW was because Tastosis was casting it. Guess I'll be going back to no BW.

You should give BSL a chance. Gypsy and Nyoken are pretty solid casters!


As long as the Brood War has nothing to do with Afreeca, yes support it.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
March 03 2021 03:43 GMT
#82
On March 03 2021 12:29 mierin wrote:
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On March 03 2021 12:26 Volka wrote:
Terrible news. It's not going to be the same.


It won't! Every foreigner boycott the ASL starting now.


That's "cutting off your nose to spite your face" territory with that idea. Let's not go there.

Community casters are still an option. Maybe BisuDagger can start casting again with a partner? Either that or LaughNGamez starts casting ASL. That's as far as my thinking takes me.
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland747 Posts
March 03 2021 03:44 GMT
#83
On March 03 2021 12:25 mierin wrote:
Foreign BW fans, please resist the urge to watch this once it happens. Every view on Afreeca justifies their position.


Oh come on, this is just dumb.

I remember having to use VLC to watch a laggy stream of some korean pointing a camera at his TV just to be able to watch the game live in 144p. Boycott is not the answer. Its literally the opposite, if there were 250k foreigners watching the games, they would obviously put more effort into the international broadcast. If you truly love BW you will watch the games and support whatever tournament, doesn't matter who is casting.
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
March 03 2021 03:46 GMT
#84
This is very disappointing.
coolguy704
Profile Joined March 2021
2 Posts
March 03 2021 03:47 GMT
#85
I've been lurking TL.net for about 10 years now. First time making an account.

I was an "SC2 only" guy before getting into Broodwar in the past year and a half. Artosis & Tasteless ASL commentary is the main reason I've grown to love Broodwar. There are lots of people that love SC2 like me that want to get into Broodwar as well and it was Tasteless & Artosis who made that possible for people outside of Korea.

This decision is extremely shortsighted and my anger has turned to sadness, hence this post. Hope we can all ban together to rectify this situation somehow.


jphansen
Profile Joined March 2010
United States7 Posts
March 03 2021 03:47 GMT
#86
Well, time for jon747
potatoedoughnut
Profile Joined July 2008
United States334 Posts
March 03 2021 03:51 GMT
#87
Yet another haven't posted in ages, but want to say this is a bummer, post.

Sad to see this end. Hope something comes along to replace it. BW has been 'dead' or dieing before, I just hope this isn't the last time.
Eagles may soar, but weasels do not get sucked into jet engines.
Mania[K]al
Profile Joined May 2009
United States359 Posts
March 03 2021 03:51 GMT
#88
On March 03 2021 12:40 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2021 12:34 Gemini_19 wrote:
The only reason I would ever watch BW was because Tastosis was casting it. Guess I'll be going back to no BW.

You should give BSL a chance. Gypsy and Nyoken are pretty solid casters!



Ehhhhhhhhh
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33707 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-03 03:54:20
March 03 2021 03:53 GMT
#89
Well, it didn't make sense for AfreecaTV to provide a product that was heavily consumed through YOUTUBE.

Though, I have to say, it sucks that they couldn't just keep on an official English stream on AfreecaTV only, even if they had to shut down the YouTube option for obvious business reasons. That seems like the obvious step to trying to get more international users to migrate to your platform, instead of just killing the official stream entirely.

Hopefully the community casts on AFTV do well enough so that they consider bringing back an official English stream, even if it's on AFTV only.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland747 Posts
March 03 2021 03:56 GMT
#90
On March 03 2021 12:53 Waxangel wrote:
Well, it didn't make sense for AfreecaTV to provide a product that was heavily consumed through YOUTUBE.

Though, I have to say, it sucks that they couldn't just keep on an official English stream on AfreecaTV only, even if they had to shut down the YouTube option for obvious business reasons. That seems like the obvious step to trying to get more international users to migrate to your platform, instead of just killing the official stream entirely.

Hopefully the community casts on AFTV do well enough so that they consider bringing back an official English stream, even if it's on AFTV only.


Smart words.
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 03 2021 03:57 GMT
#91
On March 03 2021 12:44 Ikirouta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2021 12:25 mierin wrote:
Foreign BW fans, please resist the urge to watch this once it happens. Every view on Afreeca justifies their position.


Oh come on, this is just dumb.

I remember having to use VLC to watch a laggy stream of some korean pointing a camera at his TV just to be able to watch the game live in 144p. Boycott is not the answer. Its literally the opposite, if there were 250k foreigners watching the games, they would obviously put more effort into the international broadcast. If you truly love BW you will watch the games and support whatever tournament, doesn't matter who is casting.


No. Viewership has nothing to do with their business decision. If I truly love BW I will watch streamers
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Kantuva
Profile Joined April 2010
Uruguay211 Posts
March 03 2021 03:58 GMT
#92
T.T;
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QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-03 04:00:08
March 03 2021 03:58 GMT
#93
Really sad. ASL is an amazing tournament.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51623 Posts
March 03 2021 03:58 GMT
#94
sad but expected.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland747 Posts
March 03 2021 03:59 GMT
#95
On March 03 2021 12:57 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2021 12:44 Ikirouta wrote:
On March 03 2021 12:25 mierin wrote:
Foreign BW fans, please resist the urge to watch this once it happens. Every view on Afreeca justifies their position.


Oh come on, this is just dumb.

I remember having to use VLC to watch a laggy stream of some korean pointing a camera at his TV just to be able to watch the game live in 144p. Boycott is not the answer. Its literally the opposite, if there were 250k foreigners watching the games, they would obviously put more effort into the international broadcast. If you truly love BW you will watch the games and support whatever tournament, doesn't matter who is casting.


No. Viewership has nothing to do with their business decision. If I truly love BW I will watch streamers


If you truly love BW, the game. You will watch the highest quality games that players have prepared for, which are tournament games. If you love a specific streamer, you will watch their stream.
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
March 03 2021 04:02 GMT
#96
On March 03 2021 12:59 Ikirouta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2021 12:57 mierin wrote:
On March 03 2021 12:44 Ikirouta wrote:
On March 03 2021 12:25 mierin wrote:
Foreign BW fans, please resist the urge to watch this once it happens. Every view on Afreeca justifies their position.


Oh come on, this is just dumb.

I remember having to use VLC to watch a laggy stream of some korean pointing a camera at his TV just to be able to watch the game live in 144p. Boycott is not the answer. Its literally the opposite, if there were 250k foreigners watching the games, they would obviously put more effort into the international broadcast. If you truly love BW you will watch the games and support whatever tournament, doesn't matter who is casting.


No. Viewership has nothing to do with their business decision. If I truly love BW I will watch streamers


If you truly love BW, the game. You will watch the highest quality games that players have prepared for, which are tournament games. If you love a specific streamer, you will watch their stream.


Personally I am not going to reward AfreecaTV for this decision. If you feel differently then feel free to watch their broadcasts.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Lambykinz
Profile Joined December 2014
United States11 Posts
March 03 2021 04:03 GMT
#97
My last post here is from over three years ago lol, but I just want to say that this is really sad, because Tastosis really have helped me get more interested in Brood War recently. I was really looking forward to the new season as well. Oh well.
"Ignorance leads to fear, fear leads to hate, and hate leads to violence. This is the equation." - Ibn Rushd (Averroes)
Kuks
Profile Joined March 2018
43 Posts
March 03 2021 04:03 GMT
#98
Damn, biggest disappointment in recent memory. I looked forward every sunday of waking up early for a foriegn friendly live stream of my favorite sport. I was so amazed and impressed that Afreeca provided an English cast and wish I would have found a better way to thank them for it when I could. It will not be the same anymore, sure the play from the pros will still be excellent but not nearly as engaging or exciting. I was starting to get others involved with Brood War, family and friends, but honestly I dont expect any of them to tune into season 11 now. Hopefully this is not a permanent change in direction for Afreeca, Brood War is a game everyone should be able to enjoy!

A special thank you to Artosis and Tasteless for sacrificing so much for the community and esport, you both are so appreciated! It is so terribly sad to think that my attending the season 8 finals at Childrens Grand Park in Souel ended up being the last casting you two would do of a Brood War Starleague in front of a live audience. T-T
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51623 Posts
March 03 2021 04:03 GMT
#99
time for saiyansc to step up
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
v1p3r52
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand182 Posts
March 03 2021 04:09 GMT
#100
this sucks, ASL was one of my favourite things to watch.
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