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Timebon3s
Norway701 Posts
He said they will get vods without korean commentary over it and get someone to translate the interviews so that they can put up the entire thing in bulks later in a proper way. He also said they had problems with getting the production right since they havent done this before so it could take some time to get it right | ||
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Zaibakk
101 Posts
Gogo all! https://www.patreon.com/ASLenglish/ | ||
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Piste
6179 Posts
I mostly watch VODs, but when I'm able to see live casts it feels more magical. Nyoken is an awesome caster as well, but ASL is Tastosis' field  | ||
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Jealous
10167 Posts
On March 24 2021 08:03 Piste wrote: Awesome to have Artosis and Tasteless cast the ASL. I hope Afreeca can agree to let VODs come out sooner in the future if not even find a solution to have live coverage back. I mostly watch VODs, but when I'm able to see live casts it feels more magical. Nyoken is an awesome caster as well, but ASL is Tastosis' field Live coverage (clean stream) is freely available for everyone who isn't partnered with Twitch basically so that has nothing to do with Afreeca IMO. Let's not go down the villain track once again. "ASL is Tastosis' field" eh... there are 2 high level players willing to live cast for free while 2 professional casters are only willing to upload VODs weeks later and only for money, at this point I feel the cult of personality can sustain the latter while the former can blossom, let's not definitively say who owns what when there are multiple options | ||
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Jealous
10167 Posts
On March 23 2021 23:10 Timebon3s wrote: The vods are going up on youtube anyway so they could have streamed it there if they wanted to. He said they will get vods without korean commentary over it and get someone to translate the interviews so that they can put up the entire thing in bulks later in a proper way. He also said they had problems with getting the production right since they havent done this before so it could take some time to get it right 1. No, streaming and uploading are fundamentally different. 2. This makes sense and is a good addition to production value and costs, thank you for clarifying! 3. If they are aiming to mimic a studio experience that would certainly be the case so that makes sense. Thanks again for clarifying. I imagined they would do a voice call or something, perhaps with face cam. But, given the atmosphere they have been working in, this makes sense too. | ||
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bracala
95 Posts
On March 24 2021 08:41 Jealous wrote: Live coverage (clean stream) is freely available for everyone who isn't partnered with Twitch basically so that has nothing to do with Afreeca IMO. Let's not go down the villain track once again. "ASL is Tastosis' field" eh... there are 2 high level players willing to live cast for free while 2 professional casters are only willing to upload VODs weeks later and only for money, at this point I feel the cult of personality can sustain the latter while the former can blossom, let's not definitively say who owns what when there are multiple options They would cast ASL anyway patreon or not. They allready told in stream if anyone can and feel to contribute via patron they are welcome. Again for hundred times Nyoken and Scan are great players and casters but Tastosis is better for 90% BW watchers and thats the fact. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11050 Posts
Would love a scenario where one group does astl.almost have too much Starcraft again with saiyansc. Glad we have this community. | ||
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sneakyfox
8216 Posts
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Kaolla
China2999 Posts
On March 24 2021 15:49 bracala wrote: They would cast ASL anyway patreon or not. They allready told in stream if anyone can and feel to contribute via patron they are welcome. Again for hundred times Nyoken and Scan are great players and casters but Tastosis is better for 90% BW watchers and thats the fact. The next one, yes, but Artosis also already mentioned if there was no money to be earned, they would just stop after next season of ASL. So money definitely does play a role, without good support or opportunities to make money from it, they would be out (makes sense I'd say, I think most of us don't like the idea of doing work for free and they are casting professionally so I can fully imagine it's no longer something like a hobby to them). Anyway, as mentioned, it's great we have 2 pairs of casters now and great that the VODs will be on Youtube (this might be the biggest thing for me). Hope I'll be able to catch some of Scan/Nyoken's casts too though, as I would be interested in hearing them, but Afreeca is blocked in China, so I fear that is probably gonna be hard. Also hope these efforts do lead to keeping the scene alive outside of Korea. | ||
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bracala
95 Posts
On March 24 2021 16:52 Kaolla wrote: The next one, yes, but Artosis also already mentioned if there was no money to be earned, they would just stop after next season of ASL. So money definitely does play a role, without good support or opportunities to make money from it, they would be out (makes sense I'd say, I think most of us don't like the idea of doing work for free and they are casting professionally so I can fully imagine it's no longer something like a hobby to them). Anyway, as mentioned, it's great we have 2 pairs of casters now and great that the VODs will be on Youtube (this might be the biggest thing for me). Hope I'll be able to catch some of Scan/Nyoken's casts too though, as I would be interested in hearing them, but Afreeca is blocked in China, so I fear that is probably gonna be hard. Also hope these efforts do lead to keeping the scene alive outside of Korea. Imagine current job you working professional for 10+ years and you love the job. You got dismissal at work...No matter how you liked that job would you continue do it for free? Anyway good to have more casters doing ASL,we should be thankful. I donated to patreon and me personaly will wait for Tastosis VODs,but im sure Nyoken and Scan will do great job too. | ||
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Piste
6179 Posts
On March 24 2021 08:41 Jealous wrote: Live coverage (clean stream) is freely available for everyone who isn't partnered with Twitch basically so that has nothing to do with Afreeca IMO. Let's not go down the villain track once again. "ASL is Tastosis' field" eh... there are 2 high level players willing to live cast for free while 2 professional casters are only willing to upload VODs weeks later and only for money, at this point I feel the cult of personality can sustain the latter while the former can blossom, let's not definitively say who owns what when there are multiple options Well I definitely didn't mean that Tasteless and Artosis owns ASL english broadcasting. You are free to watch whoever you want but there is no need for judging Tasteless, Artosis or their supporters. I am sorry if you felt like I was accusing Afreeca. I was not. I am aware Tastosis cannot stream throught their platform becouse of their twitch partnership. Artosis already stated that they are doing the next ASL no matter how the patreon goes, so you are not right about that they would do it only for money. They are professional casters. People are willing to chip in not only for the quality they provide, but to have certainty that they will get to see the casts. I also love how Tasteless and Artosis are bringing in new people to the scene. That is how the game lives longer. Starcast TV has their own patreon as well. I watch their casts as well but I do not watch anything on afreeca as the platform does not work properly for me. | ||
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Timebon3s
Norway701 Posts
I also think the Patreon is a good way to show Korea that foreigners do care about bw. It doesn’t have to be one or the other, and 5/10$ a month is not much to pay considering what they have done for the scene. | ||
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BlueStar
Bulgaria1167 Posts
I'd save my testosis money for the next season if they continue doing it and if they really provide something that worth it. With the attitude from all sides, I'd gladly donate to Nyoken and Scan's deeds. | ||
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Jealous
10167 Posts
On March 24 2021 15:49 bracala wrote: They would cast ASL anyway patreon or not. They allready told in stream if anyone can and feel to contribute via patron they are welcome. Again for hundred times Nyoken and Scan are great players and casters but Tastosis is better for 90% BW watchers and thats the fact. Yet another person trying to shove their opinion and/or made-up numbers as "fact," I'll pass on the bait this time thank you. On March 24 2021 18:17 BlueStar wrote: Can someone give a link to nyoken + scan patreon page? I'd save my testosis money for the next season if they continue doing it and if they really provide something that worth it. With the attitude from all sides, I'd gladly donate to Nyoken and Scan's deeds. I am actually unsure if they have their own Patreon page but I would suggest asking in this thread: https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/570663-scan-and-nyoken-to-community-cast-asl | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1012 Posts
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bracala
95 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25540 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50242 Posts
On March 24 2021 23:45 bracala wrote: @Jealous LOL get a life dude,chill. Im willing to open patreon so people can donate to you too,just relax. Correction not 90%,99% BW watchers think Tastosis is better then Nyoken and Scan Citation needed. | ||
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RedBelPepper
1 Post
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On March 24 2021 18:17 BlueStar wrote: Can someone give a link to nyoken + scan patreon page? I'd save my testosis money for the next season if they continue doing it and if they really provide something that worth it. With the attitude from all sides, I'd gladly donate to Nyoken and Scan's deeds. StarcastTV itself appears to have a (largely neglected) Patreon that their Youtube videos link to. https://www.patreon.com/starcasttv | ||
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