EPTJust form a really good defensive line with 2-3 bases, safe in the knowledge the bot will ram its head against it using nothing more sophisticated than range-edging. Then you can just let it have the rest of the map and clean up when it runs out of gas.
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Jae Zedong
407 Posts
Just form a really good defensive line with 2-3 bases, safe in the knowledge the bot will ram its head against it using nothing more sophisticated than range-edging. Then you can just let it have the rest of the map and clean up when it runs out of gas. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10682 Posts
On June 15 2020 02:17 Jae Zedong wrote: I’m just saying they can be exploited, otherwise I should have no business winning easily if they’re supposed to be anywhere near 1900. The reason human ELO is lower than bot ELO is probably because people are playing standard against them and not using bot-defeating techniques. Just form a really good defensive line with 2-3 bases, safe in the knowledge the bot will ram its head against it using nothing more sophisticated than range-edging. Then you can just let it have the rest of the map and clean up when it runs out of gas. If you feel the need to play so defensive and cannot play standard vs a bot, then you kinda shouldn't complain about how easy the bot is to defeat, you are not *SUPPOSED* to abuse the bot's AI, you are supposed to use it to improve upon your own skills, or use your own skills to prove it is not as good. If you are a good player I don't think there is the need to abuse the AI's weakness's lol | ||
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Jae Zedong
407 Posts
On June 15 2020 02:48 GGzerG wrote: If you feel the need to play so defensive and cannot play standard vs a bot, then you kinda shouldn't complain about how easy the bot is to defeat, you are not *SUPPOSED* to abuse the bot's AI, you are supposed to use it to improve upon your own skills, or use your own skills to prove it is not as good. If you are a good player I don't think there is the need to abuse the AI's weakness's lol Playing standard vs computers is just tying one hand behind your back for no reason. Kasparov was under no obligation to play ”standard” against Deep Blue. The reason it’s considered a hallmark achievement for AI is because Kasparov didn’t hold back. | ||
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Sonko
154 Posts
 We are really in the starting stages now - and bear in mind, development takes a long time - fixing a "small error" that causes an exploit can take weeks. Also, you really shouldn't hold back - if you exploit an AI, then the game has less practice value, but it doesn't mean you didn't win fair and square. | ||
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Jealous
10192 Posts
1. Even though I have already proven these settings work with my native install of 1.16, when I try to launch SCHNAIL in full screen, the game is stretched. Any known work-arounds for this? I much prefer full screen over windowed. 2. When I request a match, I end up in a lobby all by myself. No one joins. When I start the game, it says "Failure to load AI module." Then the client crashes when I go back to it if I click on it, because the dialog box stalls out. | ||
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Sonko
154 Posts
On June 15 2020 13:57 Jealous wrote: I have looked through the FAQ and site and I have run into two problems not covered there: 1. Even though I have already proven these settings work with my native install of 1.16, when I try to launch SCHNAIL in full screen, the game is stretched. Any known work-arounds for this? I much prefer full screen over windowed. 2. When I request a match, I end up in a lobby all by myself. No one joins. When I start the game, it says "Failure to load AI module." Then the client crashes when I go back to it if I click on it, because the dialog box stalls out. 1. Can't say much, could be a local issue, needs investigation. 2. Check if your bwheadless.exe in the schnail/bwheadless folder. If there is no bwheadless.exe, extract the bwheadless.rar from there, and an exception to Windows defender for the .exe - sometimes it silently deletes it because it thinks it's a trojan or something. This will be added to FAQ. | ||
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Jealous
10192 Posts
On June 15 2020 17:29 Sonko wrote: 1. Can't say much, could be a local issue, needs investigation. 2. Check if your bwheadless.exe in the schnail/bwheadless folder. If there is no bwheadless.exe, extract the bwheadless.rar from there, and an exception to Windows defender for the .exe - sometimes it silently deletes it because it thinks it's a trojan or something. This will be added to FAQ. 1. After reviewing the settings, I realized that I didn't have "Perform scaling on:" set to "GPU." This fixed the issue for me and allows me to play full screen with black bars. 2. I added the exclusion from Virus protection to the folder, extracted bwheadless.exe manually, and was able to load up a game! Strangely, I still got a bunch of errors at the start, but the bot I matched with seemed to play normally. Thanks! EDIT: Successful first ranked match Seems like all is working well. My only new complaint is that "morph archon" has a default hotkey of "K" when it should be "R" for the English version.EDIT 2: Just confirmed, it is "R" and is listed as "default" in the client, but for whatever reason mine came packaged with it set to "K" even though it is not default. Strange  EDIT 3: When trying to launch a replay on the site through OpenBW, I get "Patch_rt.mpq failed" error. | ||
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Sonko
154 Posts
On June 16 2020 01:26 Jealous wrote: 1. After reviewing the settings, I realized that I didn't have "Perform scaling on:" set to "GPU." This fixed the issue for me and allows me to play full screen with black bars. 2. I added the exclusion from Virus protection to the folder, extracted bwheadless.exe manually, and was able to load up a game! Strangely, I still got a bunch of errors at the start, but the bot I matched with seemed to play normally. Thanks! EDIT: Successful first ranked match Seems like all is working well. My only new complaint is that "morph archon" has a default hotkey of "K" when it should be "R" for the English version.EDIT 2: Just confirmed, it is "R" and is listed as "default" in the client, but for whatever reason mine came packaged with it set to "K" even though it is not default. Strange EDIT 3: When trying to launch a replay on the site through OpenBW, I get "Patch_rt.mpq failed" error. Check the OpenBW instructions here, you need to specify the 1.16 mpq files for it to work. Btw, it is not developed by us, it's just a convenience feature on SCHNAIL. | ||
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Jealous
10192 Posts
On June 16 2020 14:08 Sonko wrote: Check the OpenBW instructions here, you need to specify the 1.16 mpq files for it to work. Btw, it is not developed by us, it's just a convenience feature on SCHNAIL. Ah thanks, I forgot that I didn't have it set up on this PC. | ||
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Sonko
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Jealous
10192 Posts
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thederpness
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thcchoi
2 Posts
On June 29 2020 11:30 thederpness wrote: Hey folks, trying to get the client to work, and I can't log on, plus I can't change password or register a new account on the website. Anyone else having these problems too, or am I just dense? having the same issue here. Can anyone help me out? Btw does the client have the bgm as well? When it was working yesterday, even with the background music volume up, I didn't hear any bgm. only sound effects were working. Is it just me? Any help wud be much appreciated. Thx in advance. | ||
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Sonko
154 Posts
Yesterday the login/registration was down for a few hours - the issue has been fixed since. | ||
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thcchoi
2 Posts
Is there any way of making it run with eGPU? My every other game runs with eGPU without an issue. Thanks! | ||
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Sonko
154 Posts
On June 30 2020 17:57 thcchoi wrote: the programme only runs with the integrated GPU. Is there any way of making it run with eGPU? My every other game runs with eGPU without an issue. Thanks! You mean the SCHNAIL client itself, right? In short, probably, but I don't really see the point - it is not too heavy on system resources. Did you have any performance problems? | ||
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Sonko
154 Posts
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Sonko
154 Posts
July 4th, 16:00 CEDT / 10:00 EST! | ||
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ruhtraeel
Canada122 Posts
On July 02 2020 21:03 Sonko wrote: I'll just leave this here https://twitter.com/makingcomputer1/status/1278584469189021697 July 4th, 16:00 CEDT / 10:00 EST! Are these randomly selected AutoSaved replays? I don't give consent for SCHNAIL to show me losing to Chris Coxe's 4 pool 5 games in a row :-( | ||
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Jealous
10192 Posts
On July 04 2020 04:58 ruhtraeel wrote: Are these randomly selected AutoSaved replays? I don't give consent for SCHNAIL to show me losing to Chris Coxe's 4 pool 5 games in a row :-( Your replays are automatically uploaded to the site, and your opponent always has a copy of a game you played, technically only one of you needs to consent... | ||
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