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AttackZerg
United States6778 Posts
I do think random (and maybe anyone) should be able to select 1 (or 3 for random) matchups that they would like to avoid, similar to map preferences. I have blockchain on my list of dont play. Out of 75 games. 0 block chain. Currently sc2 is constant zvzs but at least it isnt as brutal on the body as bw zvz. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway25161 Posts
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Bonyth
Poland325 Posts
player A plays: ZvZ, TvT, PvP player B plays: ZvP, ZvT, TvZ these players will never meet on ladder. Of course this is a silly example, have nothing against race picking. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway25161 Posts
On August 13 2019 23:36 Bonyth wrote: So here is one rare possibility: player A plays: ZvZ, TvT, PvP player B plays: ZvP, ZvT, TvZ these players will never meet on ladder. Of course this is a silly example, have nothing against race picking. Ya there's a 'remote possibility' of that happening. Simple solution is that when choosing your 'vs-race' (this is only relevant for people who are race picking), you have to choose a 'vs random-race' in addition, and in the event where two players don't have corresponding matchups, both get their vs-random race. (Every race picker will prefer the option of race picking and having weird matchups happen less than 1% over having to play a matchup they don't like 33% of the time. )  | ||
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AttackZerg
United States6778 Posts
On August 13 2019 23:11 Liquid`Drone wrote: I have still to hear an even remotely coherent and logically founded argument against race picking (aside from possible difficulty of implementing, which I can't comment on) in ladder and am curious to hear yours.. I think race picking should be allowed in any tournament online or offline or match ect. I support the idea of selecting matchups, just not for ladder.... and tbh Eri, I am willing to explore my wrongness. I think a 2k mmr zerg should be the same as the next. A 2k zerg that only plays zvp is not the same as a 2k player playing versus all races. If we can seperate mmr by matchup, then yes sure ofc. I have a long standing grudge against forced races, e.g, I think Rets career was really buggered by anti-multiracial bias. The only logical arguments are implementation based, you kind of short circuited a broad range of attack angles there 8) For practice - nothing would be better then allowing for matchup preferences. As it stands, it would be kinda lame if someone is ranked as my zerg equal while avoiding 1 or 2 matchups that make zerg hard. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway25161 Posts
And someone who only plays 1 zerg matchup won't really be considered a zerg player anyway..  | ||
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AttackZerg
United States6778 Posts
On August 14 2019 00:21 Liquid`Drone wrote: race picking does not mean you should be allowed to play only zvp. I'm 100% against that. Race picking means that you can choose your own race against every other race - not that you are allowed to dodge any matchups. It does mean you can choose pvt instead of zvt, but it does not mean you can dodge playing vs terrans. Either way you need to be proficient at equally many matchups. And someone who only plays 1 zerg matchup won't really be considered a zerg player anyway.. Hmmm.... if it only means, " I have the option to choose p versus zerg instead of zerg" then I can't be against it but I think a matchup mmr would be more appropriate for describing said persons objective skill. Somehow I correlated race picking with matchup picking. (Good Morning from Cali). I think my matchup preference idea is the easiest implementation and it would bypass the 1-1000 situation, you two mentioned before. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States6778 Posts
Is anyone else just getting brutalized? I thought playing 20 games on iccup every few months kept me relevant-decent. Started playing on remastered this week, climbed to 1900s, switch happened and now I am getting leveled, by similar ranked people. Is this everyone? | ||
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Counc1l
22 Posts
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blackmanpl
25 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States6778 Posts
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WGT-Baal
France2412 Posts
On August 14 2019 12:35 AttackZerg wrote: I dropped from low 1900s to low 1700s. Is anyone else just getting brutalized? I thought playing 20 games on iccup every few months kept me relevant-decent. Started playing on remastered this week, climbed to 1900s, switch happened and now I am getting leveled, by similar ranked people. Is this everyone? Yes. Dropped from 1700~ to fighting to survive at 1500, 90% koreans | ||
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seriosity
United States83 Posts
On August 15 2019 02:23 blackmanpl wrote: I just quit against tr 14, idk why ppl would even want to play high or anything below tr20, simply not fun. Should be an option to omit players from asia and south america. No fun in that, and much waste of time. except for when they did for 20 years | ||
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chuDr3t4
Russian Federation467 Posts
On August 15 2019 02:23 blackmanpl wrote: I just quit against tr 14, idk why ppl would even want to play high or anything below tr20, simply not fun. Should be an option to omit players from asia and south america. No fun in that, and much waste of time. Before remastered highest TR was TR16 as in 0 ping LAN. | ||
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blabber
United States4320 Posts
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Anc13nt
814 Posts
On August 14 2019 12:35 AttackZerg wrote: I dropped from low 1900s to low 1700s. Is anyone else just getting brutalized? I thought playing 20 games on iccup every few months kept me relevant-decent. Started playing on remastered this week, climbed to 1900s, switch happened and now I am getting leveled, by similar ranked people. Is this everyone? I think most people who played a lot recently outside Korea probably are getting much worse results. Korean players are just a lot better than foreigner players even for the same mmr. Like a Korean 1600s-1700s player is probably comparable in strength to like an 1800 foreigner playe Edit: Also, in my experience, the ladder has been way harder for me as zerg but when I play protoss it's still ok. I feel like Koreans are much better in PvZ. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States6778 Posts
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QuadroX
213 Posts
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kogeT
Poland1434 Posts
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1064 Posts
On August 20 2019 17:20 kogeT wrote: I realized that setting a "wrong gateway" in your battle.net app (e.g you are in europe but you pick asia/americas or vice versa) will result in horrible lag, so be careful. it might be a coincidence. have you tried with the same person? I've just checked the blizzard sc forum, they gave us the turnrate latency(? ms) table. | ||
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