• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:03
CEST 03:03
KST 10:03
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!11Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)82Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!18
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" [D] Wireframe Casting Removed
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion HORROR STARCRAFT MOVIE BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ How Famous was FlaSh before his Debut? screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! General RTS Discussion Thread ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Role of Gaming on Mental Hea…
TrAiDoS
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6713 users

New matchmaking algorithm (built in VPN)

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-09 04:36:33
August 09 2019 03:25 GMT
#1
Everyone on NA is hitting Koreans atm, pretty sure Blizz changed the matchmaking algorithm. TR has been pretty good as well, im getting TR16 low every game (about 25% of players change it to high). Are Europeans hitting kors as well?

Queue time is below 30 secs and i think MMR is being prioritized now (over location)? Haven't seen any patch notes yet.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States670 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-09 04:41:37
August 09 2019 04:32 GMT
#2
Yep, first and second game on and I quickly matched a 2100+ korean with tr 20.
aka: Yaj
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
August 09 2019 04:35 GMT
#3
Sweet! This is a good thing right? TR20 is pretty good all things considered.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
August 09 2019 04:40 GMT
#4
On August 09 2019 13:35 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sweet! This is a good thing right? TR20 is pretty good all things considered.


TR16 is playable, anything below that is pretty bad tho. I think NA East/West coast get TR16~TR20, dunno about other regions. I imagine SA vs Korea is really bad, prob a few EU countries too. As an NA player i'd love to hit more EU players.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
iRk-AGge
Profile Joined October 2017
Sweden400 Posts
August 09 2019 04:55 GMT
#5
Yeah I get alot of games vs koreans since the new patch.
Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States670 Posts
August 09 2019 04:59 GMT
#6
On August 09 2019 13:55 iRk-AGge wrote:
Yeah I get alot of games vs koreans since the new patch.


Well as far as NA today is the first time. Around this time I typically match nothing but 1600 mmr noobs after a 3 minute queue. I log on today and match 4 koreans all over 2000.
aka: Yaj
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10794 Posts
August 09 2019 05:48 GMT
#7
Oh well that makes sense then lol, ping seemed more playable too and I am suffering from some lag issues for sure, thanks for posting.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
QuadroX
Profile Joined August 2017
386 Posts
August 09 2019 06:19 GMT
#8
Does it still prefer closer regions (if close MMR)?
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland610 Posts
August 09 2019 06:56 GMT
#9
Just checked. No changes for Europeans. I got a Korean after over 300 seconds queue time, 2nd time i got matched with Dandy after waiting over 300 seconds.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7584 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-09 09:04:33
August 09 2019 07:05 GMT
#10
West coast California here. Getting 2100+ one game and 1200-1500 the next. Wait times have been all over the place. From 220 seconds to less then 5.

Polish - terrible lag
S.korea - playable lag
Germany - playable
Mexico - mostly playable

I don't know about all this turnrate stuff, so I can't answer but there is definitely a difference.
dM-White
Profile Joined February 2007
Chile341 Posts
August 09 2019 07:09 GMT
#11
THANKS BLIZZARD !

Finally waiting less than 100 secs
Op dM- @West || http://DisturbedMind.net || https://discord.gg/ePERqJp
QuadroX
Profile Joined August 2017
386 Posts
August 09 2019 11:03 GMT
#12
I trust Bonyth. Keeping VPN on for now. Maybe blizzard just experimenting with things live.
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
August 09 2019 12:44 GMT
#13
I don't see any change yet, in fact if I put on a vpn I match in under 20 secs every time but the skill difference is huge, 1800 player in kor is like 2100 NA or more
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
August 09 2019 12:51 GMT
#14
Yeah, they need to work on this. I just got matched against the third ranked player on ladder at 2737mmr (not sure whose acc that is).
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4342 Posts
August 09 2019 14:04 GMT
#15
I got nothing but Koreans last night about 10 games in a row.

The lag was decent. Not great but still playable.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
-Debaser-
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States329 Posts
August 09 2019 14:06 GMT
#16
Thank god for RANK fix. Still waiting for blizzard to implement BWAPI though

finally we can play KOREA without VPN. Thank you blizzard...
TL+ Member
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33662 Posts
August 09 2019 14:31 GMT
#17
someone tell me if this is good or bad so I know if I should praise or disparage blizzard
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States670 Posts
August 09 2019 14:42 GMT
#18
On August 09 2019 23:31 Waxangel wrote:
someone tell me if this is good or bad so I know if I should praise or disparage blizzard


If you are a high level player this is an enormous change and most would agree for the best. If you are low it's probably breakeven or not preferable because there was already plenty of opponents in your range without Korea.

Although I despise lag - the fact that I can now log on and instantly match a player often better than myself is mind boggling seeing as how some of the best NA players do not even ladder leaving only a handful of capable opponents and the rest aren't even a challenge.
aka: Yaj
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
August 09 2019 14:55 GMT
#19
On August 09 2019 23:31 Waxangel wrote:
someone tell me if this is good or bad so I know if I should praise or disparage blizzard



disparage by default, ofc

I'm still not sure about this, I watched artosis' stream this morning and he was getting serious TR issues vs. KR players, what does this say about the servers?
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
August 09 2019 15:00 GMT
#20
well if they manage to do it properly i guess it's going to be a praiseworthy change

mudfish does a much better job of letting one play on the korean server
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
1 2 3 4 5 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#91
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ViBE297
FoxeR 66
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3729
Artosis 663
Purpose 11
Terrorterran 2
League of Legends
Trikslyr72
Counter-Strike
summit1g13136
taco 250
adren_tv80
minikerr49
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox473
AZ_Axe92
Other Games
tarik_tv6045
JimRising 604
shahzam463
ToD188
JuggernautJason138
Temp014
WinterStarcraft9
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1648
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 125
• RyuSc2 24
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra2240
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
8h 57m
Kung Fu Cup
9h 57m
OSC
22h 57m
CrankTV Team League
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
CrankTV Team League
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Serral vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Online Event
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Clem vs ByuN
Rogue vs Lambo
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-21
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.