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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10012 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-09 04:36:33
August 09 2019 03:25 GMT
#1
Everyone on NA is hitting Koreans atm, pretty sure Blizz changed the matchmaking algorithm. TR has been pretty good as well, im getting TR16 low every game (about 25% of players change it to high). Are Europeans hitting kors as well?

Queue time is below 30 secs and i think MMR is being prioritized now (over location)? Haven't seen any patch notes yet.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States665 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-09 04:41:37
August 09 2019 04:32 GMT
#2
Yep, first and second game on and I quickly matched a 2100+ korean with tr 20.
aka: Yaj
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
August 09 2019 04:35 GMT
#3
Sweet! This is a good thing right? TR20 is pretty good all things considered.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10012 Posts
August 09 2019 04:40 GMT
#4
On August 09 2019 13:35 hiro protagonist wrote:
Sweet! This is a good thing right? TR20 is pretty good all things considered.


TR16 is playable, anything below that is pretty bad tho. I think NA East/West coast get TR16~TR20, dunno about other regions. I imagine SA vs Korea is really bad, prob a few EU countries too. As an NA player i'd love to hit more EU players.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
iRk-AGge
Profile Joined October 2017
Sweden400 Posts
August 09 2019 04:55 GMT
#5
Yeah I get alot of games vs koreans since the new patch.
Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States665 Posts
August 09 2019 04:59 GMT
#6
On August 09 2019 13:55 iRk-AGge wrote:
Yeah I get alot of games vs koreans since the new patch.


Well as far as NA today is the first time. Around this time I typically match nothing but 1600 mmr noobs after a 3 minute queue. I log on today and match 4 koreans all over 2000.
aka: Yaj
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10688 Posts
August 09 2019 05:48 GMT
#7
Oh well that makes sense then lol, ping seemed more playable too and I am suffering from some lag issues for sure, thanks for posting.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
QuadroX
Profile Joined August 2017
386 Posts
August 09 2019 06:19 GMT
#8
Does it still prefer closer regions (if close MMR)?
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland593 Posts
August 09 2019 06:56 GMT
#9
Just checked. No changes for Europeans. I got a Korean after over 300 seconds queue time, 2nd time i got matched with Dandy after waiting over 300 seconds.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-09 09:04:33
August 09 2019 07:05 GMT
#10
West coast California here. Getting 2100+ one game and 1200-1500 the next. Wait times have been all over the place. From 220 seconds to less then 5.

Polish - terrible lag
S.korea - playable lag
Germany - playable
Mexico - mostly playable

I don't know about all this turnrate stuff, so I can't answer but there is definitely a difference.
dM-White
Profile Joined February 2007
Chile341 Posts
August 09 2019 07:09 GMT
#11
THANKS BLIZZARD !

Finally waiting less than 100 secs
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QuadroX
Profile Joined August 2017
386 Posts
August 09 2019 11:03 GMT
#12
I trust Bonyth. Keeping VPN on for now. Maybe blizzard just experimenting with things live.
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
August 09 2019 12:44 GMT
#13
I don't see any change yet, in fact if I put on a vpn I match in under 20 secs every time but the skill difference is huge, 1800 player in kor is like 2100 NA or more
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
August 09 2019 12:51 GMT
#14
Yeah, they need to work on this. I just got matched against the third ranked player on ladder at 2737mmr (not sure whose acc that is).
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4339 Posts
August 09 2019 14:04 GMT
#15
I got nothing but Koreans last night about 10 games in a row.

The lag was decent. Not great but still playable.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
-Debaser-
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States329 Posts
August 09 2019 14:06 GMT
#16
Thank god for RANK fix. Still waiting for blizzard to implement BWAPI though

finally we can play KOREA without VPN. Thank you blizzard...
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33509 Posts
August 09 2019 14:31 GMT
#17
someone tell me if this is good or bad so I know if I should praise or disparage blizzard
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States665 Posts
August 09 2019 14:42 GMT
#18
On August 09 2019 23:31 Waxangel wrote:
someone tell me if this is good or bad so I know if I should praise or disparage blizzard


If you are a high level player this is an enormous change and most would agree for the best. If you are low it's probably breakeven or not preferable because there was already plenty of opponents in your range without Korea.

Although I despise lag - the fact that I can now log on and instantly match a player often better than myself is mind boggling seeing as how some of the best NA players do not even ladder leaving only a handful of capable opponents and the rest aren't even a challenge.
aka: Yaj
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
August 09 2019 14:55 GMT
#19
On August 09 2019 23:31 Waxangel wrote:
someone tell me if this is good or bad so I know if I should praise or disparage blizzard



disparage by default, ofc

I'm still not sure about this, I watched artosis' stream this morning and he was getting serious TR issues vs. KR players, what does this say about the servers?
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
August 09 2019 15:00 GMT
#20
well if they manage to do it properly i guess it's going to be a praiseworthy change

mudfish does a much better job of letting one play on the korean server
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
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