EPTrealzork if you halucinate a shuttle you will just get regular empty halu shuttles that can't load stuff, and yes you can carry halucinations in a shuttle
Half Priced Archons (new bug) - Page 8
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ProMeTheus112
France2027 Posts
realzork if you halucinate a shuttle you will just get regular empty halu shuttles that can't load stuff, and yes you can carry halucinations in a shuttle | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4376 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19300 Posts
Can confirm: * shuttle pickup resets unit tag so archon trick will work also: * spells that instantly kill halucinations when casted on them -stasis, irradiate, d-matrix, plague consume, ensnare, spawn broodlings, parasite -none of these cause instant death on the budget archon * Can stasis locked-down unit, but cannot lockdown stasised unit * Can recall locked-down unit, but cannot recall stasised unit * Can irradiate then lockdown then stasis. If an irradiated unit is put under stasis it will not lose health * Can parasite->ensnare-dmatrix-irradiate->plague->stasis battlecruise and it won't lose health -TLDR: stasis your plagued units in a PvZ and you can keep them full health lol * A d-matrix-ed irradiated unit will lose health significantly slower * You can magic eraser an SCV line * nukes cannot be stormed, stassised, or locked down when leaving or re-entering * hallucinated infested terrans still perform suicides ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/CflfUJz.jpg) | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
he lengths people will go to in order to justify having an unfair advantage over others. I don't play Protoss, but I bet that you play Zerg. Stop projecting. | ||
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MrMischelito
347 Posts
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Freakling
Germany1529 Posts
On March 15 2019 11:03 BisuDagger wrote: Course not, cause its a real Archon.Nothing ground breaking here, but some fun: Can confirm: * shuttle pickup resets unit tag so archon trick will work also: * spells that instantly kill halucinations when casted on them -stasis, irradiate, d-matrix, plague consume, ensnare, spawn broodlings, parasite -none of these cause instant death on the budget archon * Can stasis locked-down unit, but cannot lockdown stasised unit I guess one could put it more generally: Stasised units are not affected by anything else.* Can recall locked-down unit, but cannot recall stasised unit * Can irradiate then lockdown then stasis. If an irradiated unit is put under stasis it will not lose health * Can parasite->ensnare-dmatrix-irradiate->plague->stasis battlecruise and it won't lose health You could also mind control a Science Vessel, then send any irradiated Unit into an enemy's SCV line and lock it in place there with stasis -> invincible eraser. Unfortunately it cannot move either and all nearby SCVs would be protected by Stasis as well, but A+ for style!-TLDR: stasis your plagued units in a PvZ and you can keep them full health lol * A d-matrix-ed irradiated unit will lose health significantly slower That'S what DMatrix does…+ Show Spoiler + * You can magic eraser an SCV line * hallucinated infested terrans still perform suicides So do Scourge, Mines, Scarabs. It's just their normal attack. They don't deal any damage though. | ||
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LG)Sabbath
Argentina3024 Posts
On March 15 2019 05:11 Luddite wrote: You can exceed the supply cap a little, but not infinitely, because once you're over you can't make more HT anymore. At best, you can exceed it by 2 for every gateway you have building a HT all at once. Well from BisuDagger's images it looks like you can add up to 5 archons, I think in a late game battle that can make a huge difference It's annoying because if you lose a ZvP late game you can't even tell if they used the bug unless you check the replay | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19300 Posts
On March 15 2019 23:10 Freakling wrote: Course not, cause its a real Archon. I guess one could put it more generally: Stasised units are not affected by anything else. You could also mind control a Science Vessel, then send any irradiated Unit into an enemy's SCV line and lock it in place their with stasis -> invincible eraser. Unfortunately it cannot move either and all nearby SCVs would be protected by Stasis as well, but A+ for style! That'S what DMatrix does… + Show Spoiler + * You can magic eraser an SCV line So do Scourge, Mines, Scarabs. It's just their normal attack. They don't deal any damage though. I know I posted some redundant stuff, but it's not always known by newer SC players. :D Things I tried that don't work using the shift+1, 1 trick: * Burrowing lurkers won't cause other units to burrow when burrow is not researched even though the ability appears. I thought that'd be awesomely broken * All spells and abilities (like repair) using tricked hallucinated units from all races | ||
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S.I.
58 Posts
Most orders are also prevented, except SuicideUnit. However I don't see whether the damage is applied or not. | ||
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AntiHack
Switzerland553 Posts
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AntiHack
Switzerland553 Posts
Lets introduce free ultras and free BCs tho | ||
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XenOsky
Chile2303 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
1. a competitive mainstay 2. dies or gets patched because i don't think online results should skew one way if this ends up being a substantial way of playing in the next year if it cannot be reproduced on lan. so we'll have a weird situation where protoss owns online and sucks offline because of this. thanks to all the posters who have been experimenting | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On March 16 2019 23:35 XenOsky wrote: what up with the massive warnings lately? no text meme posts tend to get warned/banned especially if they are from the same user consecutively XD edit: even if the gif/meme is appropriate; this isn't reddit ^^ | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On March 17 2019 04:07 Alejandrisha wrote: i find this all so damn fascinating. i hope that it is one of two things: 1. a competitive mainstay 2. dies or gets patched because i don't think online results should skew one way if this ends up being a substantial way of playing in the next year if it cannot be reproduced on lan. so we'll have a weird situation where protoss owns online and sucks offline because of this. thanks to all the posters who have been experimenting It can be reproduced on lan. I've done it myself. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On March 17 2019 04:13 vOdToasT wrote: It can be reproduced on lan. I've done it myself. good. that's all i needed to know! good luck asl protosses lets see some 40 archon games late game pvz | ||
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Freakling
Germany1529 Posts
On March 17 2019 04:07 Alejandrisha wrote: i find this all so damn fascinating. i hope that it is one of two things: 1. a competitive mainstay 2. dies or gets patched because i don't think online results should skew one way if this ends up being a substantial way of playing in the next year if it cannot be reproduced on lan. so we'll have a weird situation where protoss owns online and sucks offline because of this. thanks to all the posters who have been experimenting Just to summarize the results of testing/analysis: The limiting factor here (and with related glitches) is the UI refresh delay which is influenced by a) latency/turn rate and b) game speed. At worst (fastest speed, turn rate ~24) this means you have 42ms (frame duration at fastest) to execute the full bottom meshing combo. If this is practically possible? No idea. I am not a 500 APM monster, so how would I know. | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On March 17 2019 06:09 Freakling wrote: Just to summarize the results of testing/analysis: The limiting factor here (and with related glitches) is the UI refresh delay which is influenced by a) latency/turn rate and b) game speed. At worst (fastest speed, turn rate ~24) this means you have 42ms (frame duration at fastest) to execute the full bottom meshing combo. If this is practically possible? No idea. I am not a 500 APM monster, so how would I know. It's certainly possible. In fighting games, people can do 2 frame links consistently, 100% of the time, with practice. That's 2/60 of a second, since the games run at 60fps. 1 frame links, people can only get about half of the time at most. This isn't exactly the same, since links require precise timing, and this is pure speed, but I still submit it as evidence that humans can do stuff like this pretty well. | ||
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Ty2
United States1434 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On March 17 2019 06:43 Ty2 wrote: Here's an awesome clip of Bonyth pulling off this trick flawlessly: https://www.twitch.tv/bonyth/clip/YawningSpicyUdonStoneLightning WOW | ||
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