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XERX
Profile Joined April 2017
85 Posts
May 16 2017 04:04 GMT
#1
I made a post about how adding cosmetics to Brood War could help grow the player base and exponentially grow the prize pools and infrastructure if they could use the money they would make off skins and reinvest into the Brood War. And it keeps getting auto-removed every time I post it can other people try? Maybe it means they have the thought of adding skins on their minds?

Heres my post if your interested.

Adding skins into Brood War remastered could bring a lot of potential funds and players to the Brood War scene. For example Brood War could adopt the case opening model of Overwatch and have skins for every unit that you could buy straight up or open cases to get. And with the money made from skins / cases you could put that towards Brood War tournaments and infrastructure. You could make special avatars for battle.net users (gif avatars), unit skins, building skins, comestic changes to chat channels, special clan battles. (you could put rare skins on the line) It could bring a lot more attention and popularity to Brood War if a financial system like this could be implemented. And if you worried about unit recognition changing you could have a setting in the options that disables skins for your opponent.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4329 Posts
May 16 2017 04:12 GMT
#2
Sorry I don't want it.It's a gimmick.
I'm seriously reconsidering even buying remastered now.Graphics aren't as clear, unit portraits have been SC2ified and the new version of Terran 1 is pretty mediocre.


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Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
May 16 2017 04:30 GMT
#3
It's a rubbish idea. IMHO Remasters should never be a platform for that sort of DLC content. New campaigns maybe. Cosmetic DLC? No.
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
May 16 2017 04:34 GMT
#4
On May 16 2017 13:04 XERX wrote:
I made a post about how adding cosmetics to Brood War could help grow the player base and exponentially grow the prize pools and infrastructure if they could use the money they would make off skins and reinvest into the Brood War. And it keeps getting auto-removed every time I post it can other people try? Maybe it means they have the thought of adding skins on their minds?

Heres my post if your interested.

Adding skins into Brood War remastered could bring a lot of potential funds and players to the Brood War scene. For example Brood War could adopt the case opening model of Overwatch and have skins for every unit that you could buy straight up or open cases to get. And with the money made from skins / cases you could put that towards Brood War tournaments and infrastructure. You could make special avatars for battle.net users (gif avatars), unit skins, building skins, comestic changes to chat channels, special clan battles. (you could put rare skins on the line) It could bring a lot more attention and popularity to Brood War if a financial system like this could be implemented. And if you worried about unit recognition changing you could have a setting in the options that disables skins for your opponent.


The B.net forums have a spam filter that auto-hides posts and triggers from duplicate posts. However, it's also bugged to flag posts that have been edited multiple times as duplicates, resulting in edited posts getting hidden.

That said, you'll never get unit or building skins approved for this game. Stuff external to the game, maybe. Nothing in-game though.
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XERX
Profile Joined April 2017
85 Posts
May 16 2017 04:39 GMT
#5
On May 16 2017 13:30 Chris_Havoc wrote:
It's a rubbish idea. IMHO Remasters should never be a platform for that sort of DLC content. New campaigns maybe. Cosmetic DLC? No.


whats the drawback its only positive
MildCocoA
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)129 Posts
May 16 2017 05:57 GMT
#6
Don't bring TF2 hat xD
Akara12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2016
164 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-16 07:25:29
May 16 2017 07:25 GMT
#7
Dota only has 10 heroes on the map and it's already damn hard to see what's happening in a battle. Imagine 10 types of units amassed to 200/200 each.
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2606 Posts
May 16 2017 08:07 GMT
#8
Yea they are deleting threads left and right at the moment (whilst there are threads that only consist of trolling and flaming, which aren't removed). Yesterday my thread about map max ("Cannot create more units"), in which I was as polite and nice as possible was also removed. Last week a friend of mine opened up a thread asking about ICCup and FISH implementation, which was also removed.

I am confused why they are deleting threads at all. Even if they do not like the idea then they could just simply ignore the thread. It is no danger to them. On the other hands they could delete many of the troll threads, but those do not get deleted...
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CrymeaTerran
Profile Joined May 2017
149 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-16 09:12:49
May 16 2017 09:11 GMT
#9
Playing for cosmetics will ruin your life, who needs the gloves in cs:go? Wtf, weaponskins are enough but now gloves, even if you have the option to disable the graphics, this is just bullshit. It seems that cosmetics are the new big thing the last years, that feels bad, for some kids it must be a nightmare not able to purchase a knife for cs:go or bw-cosmetics, even a boi in my age (30) thought about a knife for 50 - 100 bucks, cmon, seriously? Totally unnecessary and just a pocket filler (money) for companies.
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yB.TeH
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany414 Posts
May 16 2017 10:48 GMT
#10
your thread is there just fine, it's just that the forums sucks balls and you can't see your own threads
IntoTheStorm
Profile Blog Joined October 2016
116 Posts
May 16 2017 10:53 GMT
#11
I don't understand how this would be beneficial. The graphics are simple and pretty and battles are easy to understand now, even in BW 1.16. Adding visuals will make it hard to understand battles and gameplay which is the beauty of BW.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-16 12:16:07
May 16 2017 12:15 GMT
#12
On May 16 2017 19:53 IntoTheStorm wrote:
I don't understand how this would be beneficial. The graphics are simple and pretty and battles are easy to understand now, even in BW 1.16. Adding visuals will make it hard to understand battles and gameplay which is the beauty of BW.


If they made it client side I wouldn't care. If people want skins for their units, go for it as long as it doesn't confuse the other player.
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NasKe_
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil570 Posts
May 16 2017 12:20 GMT
#13
"Adding skins into Brood War remastered could bring a lot of potential funds and players to the Brood War scene."

I am really not sure about that. I am even surprised Blizzard tried that with Sc2. In other games like Dota, Overwatch and Hots it makes sense because you are playing one character the whole game, and a lot of players got "deep" connections with some heroes and will throw a ton of money buying skins. Also, for every cool skin, there is 10 garbage, because you won't sell much if every lootbox is full of good shit.
I don't think Broodwar players care about skins, I don't think anyone would play BW just because you can have a Zealot wearing a cowboy hat.

"And if you worried about unit recognition changing you could have a setting in the options that disables skins for your opponent."

I am 100% sure this option is not avaliable in CSGO, Dota2, LOL, hots and Overwatch, and that is for a reason.

At the end of the day, people that play Broodwar do it because is hard, fun, intense, and people won't play it because is also hard and intense, having skins would have 0% impact in my opinions, it would only make the game worse.
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-16 12:36:04
May 16 2017 12:32 GMT
#14
Skins are definitely not a black and white situation. While I'm sure a lot of BW purists wouldn't ever want skins in the game, which I can totally understand, the thing is that they are something that can seriously boost the popularity and funding for a competitive scene as well.

Just look at CS:GO. Skins almost singlehandedly brought that game from being relatively uncared for to its huge status that it has today. The same can be said for other games like Dota 2 with its crowd-funded prizepools that have millions of dollars because of people wanting the cosmetics that come along with it.

Obviously, the downsides are that it can cause clutter for the visibility of the game, and almost every company that has a cosmetic system for their game eventually goes overboard with the ridiculousness of its cosmetics, straying from the core design and look/feel of the game.

If it were somehow possible to provide minimal cosmetics that didn't distract from the game itself too much, I'd definitely welcome them. The issue is that it's impossible for companies like Blizzard or Valve to know the meaning of 'minimal' when it comes to designing cosmetics.

So the question becomes, do you want the scene to potentially become much bigger, or do you want to keep the core design and look/feel of the game the same? It's a tough question, and I don't think there's a clear answer one way or the other.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19230 Posts
May 16 2017 17:39 GMT
#15
I'm open to it. Currently we don't have to buy anything from blizzard if we want to play pure BW. I'll support any avenue for Blizzard to generate more revenue. I see it this way, if micro-transactions exist then SC:R is still receiving attention from the art and programming team which is great.
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CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
May 16 2017 18:26 GMT
#16
I think it would be pretty difficult to fit a skin that looked very cool onto a bw unit model, assuming they want it to maintain the same shape/size as before (like with the rest of the remaster units)
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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 16 2017 18:54 GMT
#17
More sprites in the editor would be nice though. I also can't see anything wrong with a minor decal system.

However, the Remaster is built on the old engine, and since they're aiming for cross-compatibility between versions, I'm unsure if such upgrades are even possible.
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HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1919 Posts
May 16 2017 18:58 GMT
#18
Anything that mean more BW is good.
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Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-16 19:03:32
May 16 2017 19:02 GMT
#19
Skins and customization are kinda useless for any serious gamer. But sadly, the casual gamer enjoys this stuff. Everyone seems to be bashing it pretty hard but customization is a big plus for a lot of less-serious gamers. I mean, even I enjoyed playing The Sims back in the day because of the availability of customization. That game was basically sold on that principle and wasn't much more than that.
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Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
May 16 2017 19:18 GMT
#20
I don't really get the hate for this, it is something to think about.
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