• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:01
CEST 13:01
KST 20:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?10FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event14Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster14Weekly Cups (June 16-22): Clem strikes back1Weekly Cups (June 9-15): herO doubles on GSL week4
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form? StarCraft Mass Recall: SC1 campaigns on SC2 thread The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports? Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster
Tourneys
FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event HomeStory Cup 27 (June 27-29) WardiTV Mondays SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 $200 Biweekly - StarCraft Evolution League #1
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] Darkgrid Layout
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest ASL20 Preliminary Maps Unit and Spell Similarities
Tourneys
[BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] ProLeague LB Final - Saturday 20:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Blog #2
tankgirl
Game Sound vs. Music: The Im…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 611 users

Fighting Spirit 1.3 Split Practice Map

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-10 05:56:42
May 10 2017 01:36 GMT
#1
[image loading]

I wanted to find an old split practice map that I had a long time ago, but realized it was probably going to be too difficult...

So I made my own!

Plus, this one allows you to use all 3 races (the other one was just Terran).

Features:
-Allows you to practice splitting with all 3 races.
-Gives some basic tips on splitting for newbies.
-Challenge Trial: Building a Dragoon starts a Challenge Trial (you have to select your race again), where you will be graded on percentage of completed mineral gathering trips over 20 Trials.
-Build Zealot to check if Creep has disappeared to begin split practice as Terran or Protoss if you had previously used Zerg.
-Placement of CC, Nex, Hatchery and corresponding worker units are placed snuggly down to the pixel using SCMDraft's Debug feature of showing Unit Collision boxes.
-The Benefit of using Fighting Spirit 1.3 as a template for a Split Practice Map: Because of BW's erratic engine, any change in terrain that affects walkability has the potential of producing different pathfinding solutions to units. Using FS 1.3 means that the worker gathering and pathfinding should theoretically be similar, if not entirely the same as Fighting Spirit 1.3 Starting locations.

Download is at Broodwarmaps.net, just click the Melee button to download.

Link to Download page: Broodwarmaps.net

Post your results below!

I got a 90% A- in my first try

Note: Zerg tends to be prone to harder split because morphing egg can cause drones to clump and stack over the hatchery and glitch out. This happens in normal games, as well. However you can easily overcome this if you just avoid making a drone.

Also: This is not meant to be incredibly hard to get a good grade. However, it might be difficult to get a perfect grade. Maybe I will add an option for slightly reduced time for workers to get back to the town hall, making it a bit harder.

Video Preview (Don't mind the terrible quality )

www.broodwarmaps.net
wishbonesaka
Profile Joined June 2016
Canada117 Posts
May 10 2017 03:19 GMT
#2
sank you sir, so cool. i remember using one of these features on a different map, but can not remember where to find it. thank you~
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10668 Posts
May 10 2017 03:24 GMT
#3
Oh this is really cool, I have been needing to practice splits again with mouse speed constantly changing and different gaming setup. Thanks!
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
RoKetha
Profile Joined July 2010
United States211 Posts
May 10 2017 07:24 GMT
#4
This was pretty fun and perfectly set up for rapid-fire repetition, thanks! I spend about 90 minutes on it and went from about a 75% rate to about 96-98%. The S rank still eludes me, though...
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-10 07:49:13
May 10 2017 07:41 GMT
#5
From the video, seems like your rank alphabet goes like "ABCDFE"...

You should also add a tip to always split to the fastest mining patches (front row patches in a straight line at the side (or above below) the resource depot instead of back row or diagonal patches).
JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
May 10 2017 07:41 GMT
#6
On May 10 2017 16:24 RoKetha wrote:
This was pretty fun and perfectly set up for rapid-fire repetition, thanks! I spend about 90 minutes on it and went from about a 75% rate to about 96-98%. The S rank still eludes me, though...


Oh wow! That is some nice improvement. Great to see you enjoyed using the map.

I was thinking of adding a more difficult mode, like instead of using 15 in-game seconds, instead using 14 or 13. This means that splits will have to be almost perfect. I might do this at a later date...
www.broodwarmaps.net
JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
May 10 2017 07:47 GMT
#7
On May 10 2017 16:41 Freakling wrote:
From the video, seems like your rank alphabet goes like "ABCDFE"...


Yeah, I'm aware of that... I'm basically mixing ICCup and Letter grades ranking conventions in that E (mouse and keyboard symbol) is the lowest rating on ICCup and F follows D in terms of grades used in educational settings (at least here in the US).
www.broodwarmaps.net
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
May 10 2017 07:51 GMT
#8
That's because F="fail" is rather memorable, I guess.
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States906 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-10 07:59:49
May 10 2017 07:58 GMT
#9
On May 10 2017 16:47 JungleTerrain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 16:41 Freakling wrote:
From the video, seems like your rank alphabet goes like "ABCDFE"...


Yeah, I'm aware of that... I'm basically mixing ICCup and Letter grades ranking conventions in that E (mouse and keyboard symbol) is the lowest rating on ICCup and F follows D in terms of grades used in educational settings (at least here in the US).

doesn't make sense if you play on fish ladder where E > F

just skip E if you're going to go by grading conventions

Also, the lowest rating on iccup is D- (1 point is still D- in the new system)
JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
May 10 2017 08:06 GMT
#10
Oh, they removed E rank? I have not been paying attention...

I'd have to go and change some triggers, so I won't do that today. Don't really think the subjective grading system is a big deal though... Within the context it serves its function...
www.broodwarmaps.net
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States906 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-10 10:47:01
May 10 2017 10:28 GMT
#11
I mean it just doesn't make any sense anymore since they don't have E rank. That said, I also got 90% A- my first try. I did do a bunch of splits beforehand, though. This is because I actually do it really badly in game and prioritize the drone before the split. It's actually a bad idea, though. It's better to get the split down first and then make the drone. Making the drone will mess up the split, so I have to unlearn it.

I suggest there be a "nightmare mode" where you also get graded on the worker finishing building, in other words you have to start it within let's say 3 seconds (any faster and Zerg splits won't be possible)
Suikakuju
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany238 Posts
May 10 2017 11:09 GMT
#12
Thank you mate!

Trying this right now :p
Laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep and you weep alone.
JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
May 10 2017 11:41 GMT
#13
On May 10 2017 19:28 iopq wrote:
I mean it just doesn't make any sense anymore since they don't have E rank. That said, I also got 90% A- my first try. I did do a bunch of splits beforehand, though. This is because I actually do it really badly in game and prioritize the drone before the split. It's actually a bad idea, though. It's better to get the split down first and then make the drone. Making the drone will mess up the split, so I have to unlearn it.

I suggest there be a "nightmare mode" where you also get graded on the worker finishing building, in other words you have to start it within let's say 3 seconds (any faster and Zerg splits won't be possible)


I was thinking of making the Zerg spawn just as it does in melee games, but in melee games the drones spawn more to the right than Protoss and Terran, and they still have this "problem" of the drones sometimes glitching out. Unfortunately I don't currently know of any way I can accurately mimic the way Zerg spawns in melee games since there's no way to view it in an editor with collision boxes showing or a grid overlayed on top of it. I would have to eyeball it basically, and then I'd have Zerg with a more spread out initial worker spawn compared to the other races, making comparison between different races' mining rates more difficult. As it is now, the results for each race are comparable because their initial worker spawns are homogenized to some degree.
www.broodwarmaps.net
plast1c
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany99 Posts
May 10 2017 12:16 GMT
#14
awesome, thank you sir!
kinda right, kinda wrong
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
May 10 2017 12:35 GMT
#15
Nice map. I would suggest to add a mode with a timer for 2 mining periods. Because as it is now, there is nothing that evaluates the building scv and the choice of building a worker first or sending workers to mine first.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
heluq
Profile Joined October 2014
Spain113 Posts
May 11 2017 02:37 GMT
#16
Nice map, need more micro practise map!!! thank you dude!
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States906 Posts
May 12 2017 02:24 GMT
#17
On May 10 2017 20:41 JungleTerrain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 19:28 iopq wrote:
I mean it just doesn't make any sense anymore since they don't have E rank. That said, I also got 90% A- my first try. I did do a bunch of splits beforehand, though. This is because I actually do it really badly in game and prioritize the drone before the split. It's actually a bad idea, though. It's better to get the split down first and then make the drone. Making the drone will mess up the split, so I have to unlearn it.

I suggest there be a "nightmare mode" where you also get graded on the worker finishing building, in other words you have to start it within let's say 3 seconds (any faster and Zerg splits won't be possible)


I was thinking of making the Zerg spawn just as it does in melee games, but in melee games the drones spawn more to the right than Protoss and Terran, and they still have this "problem" of the drones sometimes glitching out. Unfortunately I don't currently know of any way I can accurately mimic the way Zerg spawns in melee games since there's no way to view it in an editor with collision boxes showing or a grid overlayed on top of it. I would have to eyeball it basically, and then I'd have Zerg with a more spread out initial worker spawn compared to the other races, making comparison between different races' mining rates more difficult. As it is now, the results for each race are comparable because their initial worker spawns are homogenized to some degree.



Yeah, but I just drilled splitting drones with how they are currently placed... and it ended up being not as useful because that's not how they come in the actual game

Also, I keep forgetting to build the worker quickly - that should be drilled as well.
JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
May 12 2017 06:51 GMT
#18
On May 12 2017 11:24 iopq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2017 20:41 JungleTerrain wrote:
On May 10 2017 19:28 iopq wrote:
I mean it just doesn't make any sense anymore since they don't have E rank. That said, I also got 90% A- my first try. I did do a bunch of splits beforehand, though. This is because I actually do it really badly in game and prioritize the drone before the split. It's actually a bad idea, though. It's better to get the split down first and then make the drone. Making the drone will mess up the split, so I have to unlearn it.

I suggest there be a "nightmare mode" where you also get graded on the worker finishing building, in other words you have to start it within let's say 3 seconds (any faster and Zerg splits won't be possible)


I was thinking of making the Zerg spawn just as it does in melee games, but in melee games the drones spawn more to the right than Protoss and Terran, and they still have this "problem" of the drones sometimes glitching out. Unfortunately I don't currently know of any way I can accurately mimic the way Zerg spawns in melee games since there's no way to view it in an editor with collision boxes showing or a grid overlayed on top of it. I would have to eyeball it basically, and then I'd have Zerg with a more spread out initial worker spawn compared to the other races, making comparison between different races' mining rates more difficult. As it is now, the results for each race are comparable because their initial worker spawns are homogenized to some degree.



Yeah, but I just drilled splitting drones with how they are currently placed... and it ended up being not as useful because that's not how they come in the actual game

Also, I keep forgetting to build the worker quickly - that should be drilled as well.


I'd say stick to the Protoss and Terran ones then for now. That shit is gonna take me time to fix correctly.
www.broodwarmaps.net
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
May 12 2017 09:35 GMT
#19
Are you spawning larvae for the Zerg as well? I think it's just the larvae which change the Drone spawn position.
Aimhreidh
Profile Joined May 2017
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-13 15:44:29
May 13 2017 15:41 GMT
#20
I hope people realize that practicing splitting probably has the worst time-to-skill return on investment rate imaginable. If you do not want to get better, go ahead and practice it.

But if you want to look/feel cool, this does seem like a good UMS, though I do not agree with the tips.
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
#42
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 289
Lowko59
Rex 49
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 13843
Sea 3107
Flash 2173
TY 465
Soma 402
EffOrt 352
Stork 301
ToSsGirL 272
Zeus 249
Hyun 172
[ Show more ]
Pusan 155
Light 82
ZerO 77
Mini 75
Backho 63
Sharp 52
Aegong 43
Rush 37
Free 32
Mind 31
Hyuk 28
Snow 26
hero 26
Noble 25
Yoon 22
Movie 20
Shinee 18
ajuk12(nOOB) 7
Hm[arnc] 6
scan(afreeca) 4
Bale 1
Britney 0
Dota 2
420jenkins831
XaKoH 558
XcaliburYe552
BananaSlamJamma528
League of Legends
singsing2078
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1037
x6flipin439
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King124
Other Games
crisheroes280
Pyrionflax239
B2W.Neo180
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick652
StarCraft 2
WardiTV80
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV395
League of Legends
• Stunt611
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
13h
The PondCast
23h
Replay Cast
1d 13h
RSL Revival
1d 23h
ByuN vs Classic
Clem vs Cham
WardiTV European League
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs SHIN
Reynor vs Cure
WardiTV European League
3 days
FEL
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
FEL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
FEL
5 days
BSL: ProLeague
5 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-06-28
HSC XXVII
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.