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ASL seeking submissions of new maps for season 4

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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
April 10 2017 02:56 GMT
#1
Looks like the organizers are soliciting new map submissions for the next ASL season (and potentially for later this season?). Guess this would be implicit confirmation of an ASL season 4

For all our mapmakers out there, might be a nice opportunity -- only caveat being everything's in Korean. Already about a dozen or submissions on the ASL Afreeca board.

Sources/discussion: Afreeca, Ygosu

On April 09 2017 20:49 GTR wrote:
Said board can be found here: http://live.afreecatv.com:8079/app/index.cgi?szBoard=list_bbs&szBjId=afstar1&nStationNo=15524207&nBbsNo=53049736

Good to see fellow Korean TL map poster Noah2nd on there already.

Hoping to see some foreign submissions, especially from NegativeZero and Freakling!

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Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
April 10 2017 03:23 GMT
#2
This is seriously so damn cool that they are considering using maps from the public.
JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 06:02:42
April 10 2017 05:59 GMT
#3
There seems to be a lack of 3 player maps. Most of the submissions so far are for 2 and 4 players.

And if we wanted to submit our maps, is there a way we can do this if we don't know korean? Maybe a little help from somebody? ^^

Edit: And can we finally have a Custom Maps forum on the left side for Brood War just like SC2?
www.broodwarmaps.net
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10260 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 08:37:25
April 10 2017 08:01 GMT
#4
EDIT: I am dumb.

Very happy for foreign map makers who finally have an opportunity to show their work. Foreign maps have had clean pathing and a lot more "math" to them in recent memory, from what I've seen. Hopefully their work will be appreciated.

I do hope that new maps are made for this I'm interested to see what is made when the pressure is on to rise to the top. Heck, maybe I'll make a map for the first time since 2004ish xD

EDIT 2: Is there a thread or external resource that lists all of the tools mapmakers use? I'm familiar with the actual map editors but I haven't seen the territory analysis or rush distance calculators anywhere.
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gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
April 10 2017 08:19 GMT
#5
I'd love to see one of our pro mapmakers stream the process of putting together a map for this.
CoL_DarkstaR
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany649 Posts
April 10 2017 11:53 GMT
#6
Cool maps so far, but what is this madness?

[image loading]
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
April 10 2017 12:15 GMT
#7
On April 10 2017 14:59 JungleTerrain wrote:
There seems to be a lack of 3 player maps. Most of the submissions so far are for 2 and 4 players.

There seems to be a lack of 3 player maps. Most of the submissions so far are for 2 and 4 players.[/quote]
I guess we should finish and submit Uzi Sara, Frogstar World B and Legionnaire (and of course send Reap the Storm along with it).
And work on my island maps...

And if we wanted to submit our maps, is there a way we can do this if we don't know korean? Maybe a little help from somebody? ^^

Time to sign up on Afreeca TV, I guess...

Edit: And can we finally have a Custom Maps forum on the left side for Brood War just like SC2?

+1!

I do hope that new maps are made for this I'm interested to see what is made when the pressure is on to rise to the top. Heck, maybe I'll make a map for the first time since 2004ish xD

I have given up making maps for specific occasions. I have enough finished or almost finished maps to show and "it's done hen it's done" is the best philosophy. I definitely have some interesting maps in the pipeline right now.

EDIT 2: Is there a thread or external resource that lists all of the tools mapmakers use? I'm familiar with the actual map editors but I haven't seen the territory analysis or rush distance calculators anywhere.

For melee maps you really onlu need SCMDraft although StarForge can do at least one thing that SCMDraft cannot, but there is a workaround for that with SCMDraft. So at this point all you really need are SCMDraft for making the map and CHKDraft (specifically its terrain level display) as a debugging tool.
Unfortunately, there actually are no in-editor tools for anything pathfinding-related yet. We still need to spend hours with iterative in-game testing for that. With the renewed interest and activity spurred by the announcement of Remastered there is some progress to be expected on this front in the not-too-far future, though.

On April 10 2017 17:19 gngfn wrote:
I'd love to see one of our pro mapmakers stream the process of putting together a map for this.

A live stream would probably be terribly boring to watch... And making a single fleshed out map can take anything from 50 hours upwards (just an estimate, it is hard to take track when I usually do it in sessions of .5 to 2 hours over multiple months...), I could write a guide (if I ever find the time...) or make a gif from some map in progress pictures...
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 13:12:39
April 10 2017 12:18 GMT
#8
On April 10 2017 20:53 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
Cool maps so far, but what is this madness?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Lots of them are really weird concepts that are probably not very playable or balanced and I see lots of them having some serious bug just from the pictures.
Who can teach me Korean so I can post comments O_o ?!
CoL_DarkstaR
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany649 Posts
April 10 2017 12:27 GMT
#9
I like the concept of a three player map which always turns out completely different due to the positions, but in the posted picture it just seems like in some matchups it's game over once the player in the center controls the map and the other player is cornered.
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
April 10 2017 12:29 GMT
#10
Or the player in the centre just gets killed through muta harrassment or other air based play.
JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 13:44:52
April 10 2017 13:38 GMT
#11
On April 10 2017 17:19 gngfn wrote:
I'd love to see one of our pro mapmakers stream the process of putting together a map for this.


I have the next best thing ... I've been taking pictures of each update for one of my maps recently.
Here is the one for my current map I've been working on so you can kinda see the process. Freakling, Jukado, CrystalDrag, Nzero, Neobowman all chimed in a bit (Freakling the most lol).

This is how I do it, not sure how everyone else does it exactly. But it gives an idea... just a bunch of edits over time. It's pretty boring, as Freak said.

imgur.com

Edit: Lol somebody uploaded Lost Temple for ASL 4 haha
www.broodwarmaps.net
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50604 Posts
April 10 2017 13:52 GMT
#12
yeah I saw Lost Temple and was like, why not blood bath instead?
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Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
April 10 2017 13:55 GMT
#13
It is your calling in life Freakling to get a map submited for the ASL. I would love to see pro's playing on almost anyone one of your maps. Beautiful maps + beautiful players must equal some kind of beautiful thing.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
April 10 2017 14:28 GMT
#14
I wonder what the pros would think if an island map made it through.

Uzi Sara o.o
It feels like Aztec but the concept of the natural is so good o.o
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Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
April 10 2017 15:12 GMT
#15
they should use steps of war from the wings of liberty beta
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Tadah
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden120 Posts
April 10 2017 15:23 GMT
#16
Again, anyone know how to create an Afreeca account? Is it possible without a KSSN?

Really wanna add CrystalDrag's map Kiseyras, but this Afreeca account-creation process has me stumped.
JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
April 10 2017 15:31 GMT
#17
On April 11 2017 00:23 Tadah wrote:
Again, anyone know how to create an Afreeca account? Is it possible without a KSSN?

Really wanna add CrystalDrag's map Kiseyras, but this Afreeca account-creation process has me stumped.


Crystal is korean so he should be able to do it himself, I just havent seen him in awhile...
www.broodwarmaps.net
Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-10 15:44:05
April 10 2017 15:42 GMT
#18
On April 10 2017 22:55 Greg_J wrote:
It is your calling in life Freakling to get a map submited for the ASL. I would love to see pro's playing on almost anyone one of your maps. Beautiful maps + beautiful players must equal some kind of beautiful thing.

Well, we just had this for a start.

Crystal is American, actually. I don't think he has Korean ID or even speaks Korean that well...
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
April 10 2017 16:10 GMT
#19
Some of those maps which are submitted look cool. Many of them when I try to download says "Forbidden". If anyone got luck to download please share.
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Trozz
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3456 Posts
April 10 2017 16:17 GMT
#20
How about this map?
[image loading]
I'm sure the pros would love it!
Here's a download link: http://www.panschk.de/mappage/comments.php?mapid=4660
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