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N.sL)_CirCle
Profile Joined December 2002
New Zealand478 Posts
June 30 2003 06:54 GMT
#21
Im Mostly P player, but TVT IS the best MU in the game, it is total strategy art. every move has to be calculated, the fight (esp early to mid game) is very important. If you are sitting on ur ass powering all game you are doing something fundamentally wrong :O

**I think scouting is vitally important (as with all MU's but in tvt its an area that alot of players drop off in - they think they can predict). Dont just scan the persons base, constantly scan seige lines, cliffs, exps and regular dropship paths.

**Learn how to micro properly in tvt, this is very important, especially early/mid game when gas is critical and units can be wasted

**Learn the unit vs unit strenghts/weaknesses

I think a major reason ppl find tvt boring is because they dont understand it; micro, scanning and lots of other techniques are completely different in tvt so the typically executed tank push/cliff drop dosnt work the same in this matchup.

Watch lots of MODERN tvt reps, you wont see a single idle moment. take note of the areas people scan, the micro techniques, what each player takes as a signal to move up the tech tree.
I'm home with the downies
PunkSkeleton
Profile Joined January 2003
Poland226 Posts
June 30 2003 11:54 GMT
#22
How should I micro properly in TvT? I just don't untderstand it .
What should I do against mass turret users (I really hate them)?
Yarertz
Profile Joined February 2003
Djibouti1891 Posts
June 30 2003 12:02 GMT
#23
do some tankz and use cliffs ;p
StarCraft : 26.IX.2001 - 8.XII.2004 (1167 days) R.I.P [`]
Bleww
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1080 Posts
June 30 2003 12:56 GMT
#24
vultures do not beat tanks, mines do.
I am back
FridayLove
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1478 Posts
July 01 2003 20:14 GMT
#25
Bleww you have the _MOST_ homosexual profile I have ever seen.
I dont care if mondys blue...
DV8
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1623 Posts
July 01 2003 20:23 GMT
#26
HovZ is right, the MU is more about terran intuition than anything and the only general piece of advice I can think of is, Gas is good :D, Yeah I know its lame advice...
l2uShMarine
Profile Joined December 2002
United States168 Posts
July 01 2003 21:04 GMT
#27
if they mass turret a island i build a building that i already have/that is cheap as close as i can to the island, then wait until i got enough drop / units to kill the expo , send ur building over the turret, it will distract the turrets until building is dead,by that time most of ur units have been dropped
GG Gl --v + die
MORAGA
Profile Joined May 2003
United States323 Posts
July 01 2003 21:07 GMT
#28
be smart be winner
T.T
Moraga, California
88)Cod-
Profile Joined June 2003
United States61 Posts
July 01 2003 21:12 GMT
#29
TvT builds all depend on the map. For example watch Xellos vs. Boxer VODs. Different openings were done on different maps
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