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xccam
Great Britain1154 Posts
On March 28 2017 19:01 InfCereal wrote: Not even out yet and people are tearing it apart. Good on ya, starcraft community. It's not a new game, it's a graphics update. You don't need to wait till release to "try the mechanics", we can already see the graphics and hence judge it. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
Honestly I think the first time I watched, there were definitely some units like probes, zerglings, hydras, seige mode tanks that I thought 'ew, that needs to be fixed.' But looking at it again days later, it's already grown on me a little more. I think the most jarring thing are the brighter colours and highlights that weren't there before. And it's definitely a nitpick only BW players who didn't play much SC2 are going to notice much. Basically, the zerglings in the original were almost all their team colour with some dark shadows. In the new version the team colour is brighter and there's some tan highlights of the zergling's hide. The drone's shadow is lower than it used to be, giving it more of a floating look. The buildings feel more shiny, like it is noon on a cloudless day. Probes look a hair too large and too shiny, but otherwise are perfect. Cannons in particular I would prefer the rings be gradually more depressed, so those lines aren't as sharp. Marine and medic suits are too shiny, making them just slightly hard to look at. Yeah, basically super nitpicks and stuff I know I would get used to if I played a lot, but I think are worth fixing up a little. There's no real dramatic changes needed. The Nexus is perfect, if you want an example of one of the few buildings I don't think looks really shiny. Most of the game just looks super good to be honest. Just need an option to turn of sheen lol. PS: I don't think it's wrong at all the people talk about how the graphics surprised them, negatively or not. But I do suggest everyone take a few looks at it over the course of the week to try to mentally comprehend what the actual changes are. There is a kind of optical illusion they're going for with the shininess that I don't like, to give them a more 3d look, but a lot of us are okay with high resolution 2D, and it's what we were expecting, so it ends up being kind of an unwelcome cheat that doesn't quite look right. And as I understand it looking at the posts in this thread, the units and buildings people liked are the ones that don't have that weird shine to them, like the high templar. | ||
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KoveN-
Australia504 Posts
On March 28 2017 19:01 InfCereal wrote: Not even out yet and people are tearing it apart. Good on ya, starcraft community. Hey guys don't gripe about graphic changes in a 'graphical gripes' thread ay :^) | ||
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Freakling
Germany1534 Posts
However, I think most things are probably still work in progress, and they're definitely on the right path. On March 27 2017 18:14 Neemi wrote:The main focus should be gameplay, so I'm in favour of anything like team colours being clear, and I agree with many of the points on over/undersaturation. Tanks seeming tiny also instantly struck me. I felt their body should be a tad longer. I would prefer to keep water/creep static as it is now, to distract as little as possible. Both are represented by static terrain tiles, anyway, so you cannot easily change much except for palette cycles, just like water works right now (or doesn't, under newer Windows versions...). SCV mining sparks being too big is another thing that also really stood out to me. For arguments sake, I actually rather like the more bluish Protoss building explosion... On March 28 2017 06:51 KrazyTrumpet wrote: Man, this entire thread reminded me why I left the Starcraft community in disgust. Nothing is ever fucking good enough, lol Obvioulsy you have a problem distinguishing (constructive!) criticism from "whining". Complaining about a community whilst spreading poisonous vitriol like this is just hypocrisy. On March 28 2017 12:55 Cheesefome wrote: I must agree with a past post. You guys are the worst community hahahaha! It's was never meant to be a brand spanking new game. It was suppose to be a simple update to better resolutions. No longer will the game feel like a gameboy video game. The matchmaking/lat/binds/anti hacks ect ect.. are the cherry on top. Honestly surprised how many of you guys are complaining about a high resolution starcraft. Holy crap! lol. Are you serious? Sitting here and judging every aspect of the game is setting yourself up for huge disappointment when it's actually released. If you really don't care or appreciate the resolution update then you can always stick to the old school graphics set up. That is probably why they made it possible for players to play between those 2 platforms. You are right, why would any one care and go that last step to actually get the polish on. Instead let's focus on the important things and just put a coloured square in for the units... | ||
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LightSpectra
United States3401 Posts
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Cuce
Turkey1127 Posts
we can prettu much read the polygons | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19396 Posts
On March 28 2017 21:27 LightSpectra wrote: My only gripe is that it seems like the smaller units like marines and zerglings are harder to see now. That gives you a considerable disadvantage when playing with the HD skins. As a partially colorblind caster, anything that blends in more is going to make it even harder for me to see things.  | ||
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beef42
Denmark1037 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19396 Posts
On March 28 2017 21:56 beef42 wrote: To be fair, it has always been quite difficult to make out, say, brown zerglings on a brown map. Yes. I'm actually hoping this can be fixed. It would be monumental. | ||
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lestye
United States4267 Posts
On March 28 2017 19:01 InfCereal wrote: Not even out yet and people are tearing it apart. Good on ya, starcraft community. Criticism is important to ensure all BW fans are on the same boat and support the HD version, but God bless there's so many items on this list, it feel its extremely nitpicky. | ||
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
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Freakling
Germany1534 Posts
On March 28 2017 22:33 duke91 wrote: Brown shouldn't spawn on brown maps. White shouldn't spawn on white maps. Green shouldnt spawn on jungle maps. That's pretty much a map makers fault, if they do not use good player colour presets... EDIT: I also would like to inform Bisudagger that I am not the creator of (3)Demian. | ||
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ProMeTheus112
France2027 Posts
the new templar while it looks good the movement is a little more bouncy and less subtle than original, like his clothes bounce more, the body moves up and down more, also the energy on his forehead is less noticeable from most angles. In original the movement is more subtle across the body and the energy on his forehead comes more in focus and moves more.. just a different feeling^^ they are pretty close but I think the subtle movement is good feels like templar original is ready to cast but in control and focusing on his psionic energy, its one of the nicest looking unit in the game imo, including when it moves dark archon also I think the feeling in original he seems to come out of the center more massive and dark red energy emerging from him, in new its like sitting back a bit, idk lol but seriously lot of these graphics are really good for example the new probe I think it looks interesting at first I was like "woot why the sharpness" but now I look at them Im like hey I think I like them like this, also the nexus and buildings feel rly nice I think  for example the pylon I think its better than original, it has a bit more pointy sightly less massive shape and better colors, the details on the nexus come out better the new zealot I think is great just I think someone said earlier, his psionic link is curved back further from his body, I like better in original how its curved closer to back, but why?? feel less vulnerable and solid figure in original for this detail I guess? at the same time its one of the details that probably couldnt really come out in the low resolution so it makes sense to draw different now. but seriously it looks good, the goon too though Im curious to see more animation when standing^^ just one of the subtle animations in original half machine half alive. ofc everything doesnt need to be exactly the same lol seriously its all quite very good pretty exciting want to see how it progresses things like shading and stuff later I guess? less 'plastic' 'shine' or 'polish' on some things and more subtle yet 'integral' movement on some things? and shades? at the same time the original game is pretty dark. there are so many ways to do it. I think they have done great job so far pretty sure im buying^^ havent bought anything blizzard since diablo 3 came out o_o | ||
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InfCereal
Canada1759 Posts
On March 28 2017 19:17 xccam wrote: It's not a new game, it's a graphics update. You don't need to wait till release to "try the mechanics", we can already see the graphics and hence judge it. Except it's still months off + trailers almost always use months old footage. So most of these gripes probably aren't even an issue. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
Not all cliffs look.. sharp enough? Zerg eggs are too yellow Hydralisk Den pulsates a little too hard Interceptors seem a little too big Ghost model looks a little plain at the moment/needs to be cooler etc... I agree that some units need a bit more distinguish-ion. In particular, tanks, vultures and marines (for outline) at least but I think that's also the map's fault in some places. Making zerg buildings feel on creep instead of floating above (sunken for ex) and maybe playing with the contrast/colors overall isn't a bad idea. I don't know what Blizzard's plans are but they could potentially release more videos/screenshots to gauge the reaction and I'm hoping they do so as well. What I've personally found is that if you give it a couple of days, the units will grow on you and I think that will happen for most of the gripes in the thread outside the major ones. | ||
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[[Starlight]]
United States1578 Posts
On March 29 2017 03:52 InfCereal wrote: Except it's still months off + trailers almost always use months old footage. So most of these gripes probably aren't even an issue. You're guessing. And hey, that's fine, you're free to guess... just don't presume to be infallibly right, or that you can tell everyone else what to say or think. But, if you really feel the need, you can start your own "LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!!" -style thread in regards to Remastered, lol.  | ||
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JungleTerrain
Chile799 Posts
On March 29 2017 03:56 BigFan wrote: Hydralisk Den pulsates a little too hard Lol, seriously? Made me laugh... maybe it's a subliminal message, trying to make us pulsate a little too hard while we play the game. | ||
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JungleTerrain
Chile799 Posts
On March 27 2017 18:47 KoveN- wrote: This is one of the things that pissed me off with SC2, the graphics, units etc. are more feminine. They lack the grit and manliness of SC1. Remember the manlots? They just walk in there giving no fucks and slice people up. In SC2? They look like they're prancing around, about to break out into a Madonna dance any second. It looks like they're trying to feminize Remastered, just like they did with SC2. The Dragoon seem to be worst off so far What would you say if the zealots were prancing around and giving no fucks? Femininely manly | ||
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sfca
Mexico12 Posts
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NeonFlare
Finland1307 Posts
On March 29 2017 04:33 sfca wrote: anyone know something about this SC:R working on mac?? please some one help me !! I think they posted something about it on official forums. Found it. "We'll have the Mac Beta out with 1.18.0 on Thursday. A few of the engineers went above and beyond to get it ready. Hope you and our other Mac users can log some serious hours to help with smoking out any bugs." | ||
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