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RedW4rr10r
Profile Joined January 2010
Switzerland749 Posts
October 09 2017 22:06 GMT
#2021
On October 10 2017 06:51 flyingrat wrote:
what is the word he says after he finishes a game?

sounds something like "sowasimida" but I'm sure I'm butchering the hell out of it

It's 수고하셨습니다 = "sugohasyeoseumnida" (or whatever the english romanization is). Mean something like "you did a good job".
Rip & Tear until it is done!
flyingrat
Profile Joined September 2017
43 Posts
October 10 2017 02:36 GMT
#2022
thanks a lot!
sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-10 05:51:24
October 10 2017 04:49 GMT
#2023
Might be the final fight of career life today, good luck JD!

309 Korea JDyeyo 2761 Zerg
788 Korea 2JD 2569 Zerg

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/527268-jaedong-near-to-retirement
http://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/20848130/starcraft-beginning-end-legend-jaedong
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 10 2017 04:59 GMT
#2024
May Jaedong crush his group today!
When I think of something else, something will go here
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
October 10 2017 05:35 GMT
#2025
On October 10 2017 13:59 blade55555 wrote:
May Jaedong crush his group today!


I believe.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Rekzr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia92 Posts
October 10 2017 08:35 GMT
#2026
I hope Jaedong does well tonight, its realistic for him to quit after his last game of the ASL's. I have the same pains in my fingers which started just before I finished Art School, Its been 3 years since then and my fingers have become increasingly worse to the point were the pain is always lingering. The thing I agree with now is "what else does he have to prove" We all know him to be the greatest zerg that ever was. I hope his last games give him and his fans some lasting memories, as at this point he has put everything into this tournament.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
October 10 2017 08:58 GMT
#2027
In my opinion, JD isn't the type of guy to retire after a defeat. He isn't built like that
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 10 2017 10:17 GMT
#2028
Supposedly his vision is suffering. Was revealed at the interview bit at the beginning. Anyone know what this is about?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-10 11:24:27
October 10 2017 11:14 GMT
#2029
On October 10 2017 19:17 BigFan wrote:
Supposedly his vision is suffering. Was revealed at the interview bit at the beginning. Anyone know what this is about?


His eyes are fucked. His fingers are fucked. His wrists are fucked.

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Keratoconjunctivitis sicca, flexor tendinopathy, and carpal tunnel syndrome.
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Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3691 Posts
October 10 2017 15:22 GMT
#2030
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As sad as it makes me to watch him loose. As much as I wanted him to succeed one last time. As much as it breaks my heart to see him after that last game. I am glad that he can finally stop. His body can rest now. He was the greatest Zerg, he hit the highest skill level. We may never see anyone become as godly as he was. And over this past year he has even given us a chance to watch his brood war art again. That series against flash @ asl s2 will always have a special place in my heart. Goodbye Lee Jaedong. You have made your mark in the history of brood war and zerg will never be the same without you. Rest now. You deserve it.
CoL_DarkstaR
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany649 Posts
October 10 2017 16:23 GMT
#2031
On October 11 2017 00:22 Lorch wrote:
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As sad as it makes me to watch him loose. As much as I wanted him to succeed one last time. As much as it breaks my heart to see him after that last game. I am glad that he can finally stop. His body can rest now. He was the greatest Zerg, he hit the highest skill level. We may never see anyone become as godly as he was. And over this past year he has even given us a chance to watch his brood war art again. That series against flash @ asl s2 will always have a special place in my heart. Goodbye Lee Jaedong. You have made your mark in the history of brood war and zerg will never be the same without you. Rest now. You deserve it.



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I get where you are coming from, but i consider Savior to be just as equally dominantin his prime. By the end of Kespa Broodwar i think Effort and Soulkey came close to Jaedong's skill, they just weren't as well rounded. However i think today larva is easily the best zerg around, if he could put on a similar training regiment to that of Jaedong in the past he would be there in no time. We need new blood for Broodwar though...
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
October 10 2017 16:28 GMT
#2032
On September 17 2017 13:45 Letmelose wrote:
http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/25990069

Starting from 01:58:00

Jaedong on himself:

"I forgot everything from the past. I didn't play with my head. I played with my hands, like a machine. To be honest, I forgot everything. Even now I'm not learning as fast as the others. I forgot the build orders. I forgot the maps. Thinking back, I wasn't that talented. I am an idiot. I played like an idiot, and just won through brute force. I'm a hopeless case. I need to start from scratch."

I think we need to be more patient with Jaedong. With his injuries, and lack of professional infrastructure, it certainly won't be easy.

Jaedong knows himself better than anyone. If he admits that he cannot remember the build orders and have to relearn everything, it is understandable that he is struggling against the current top players.
pansheru
Profile Joined October 2017
1 Post
October 10 2017 16:31 GMT
#2033
On October 11 2017 00:22 Lorch wrote:
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As sad as it makes me to watch him loose. As much as I wanted him to succeed one last time. As much as it breaks my heart to see him after that last game. I am glad that he can finally stop. His body can rest now. He was the greatest Zerg, he hit the highest skill level. We may never see anyone become as godly as he was. And over this past year he has even given us a chance to watch his brood war art again. That series against flash @ asl s2 will always have a special place in my heart. Goodbye Lee Jaedong. You have made your mark in the history of brood war and zerg will never be the same without you. Rest now. You deserve it.


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Lie Down. Try not to cry. Cry alot
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-10 21:13:02
October 10 2017 21:12 GMT
#2034
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Time don't spare anyone, sooner or later SK, Rain or even Flash all would have been beaten by someone younger and talented. But today time has come for Jaedong to finally let it go and enjoy the legacy.
Cheesefome
Profile Joined May 2016
314 Posts
October 11 2017 07:00 GMT
#2035
On October 05 2017 08:17 sc-darkness wrote:
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On October 05 2017 08:02 letian wrote:
"I forgot everything from the past. I didn't play with my head. I played with my hands, like a machine. To be honest, I forgot everything. Even now I'm not learning as fast as the others. I forgot the build orders. I forgot the maps. Thinking back, I wasn't that talented. I am an idiot. I played like an idiot, and just won through brute force. I'm a hopeless case. I need to start from scratch."

Oh man. There is so much pain in here. He has always been a mechanical player driven by the impulse and desire to win. I do feel his disappointment now when his physical state is not letting him do that and he sees this as his greatest weakness as a player. But he really deserves more than this.


Physical state? Dude, he's a young adult. Stop with bullshit.


Carpal tunnel bro. Trust me it exists. I'm not near his caliber of skill but I was also a very ridiculous fast player but not a very smart one.

I won all my games simply cause i was a much faster player than most.

Always thought carpal tunnel was like some shit that old people get. But at about 25 my wrists started to feel weird pains and even at times it got so bad that no matter how hard you try the wrist just doesn't allow your hand to move. It's hard to explain. It basically just stops working and it hurts.

There is a way to fix these problems. I tried a ton of wrists exercises. Like my own wrist rehab for a few months. That did reduce the pain and the stamina of my wrists but what i found to be most helpful was to learn to relax the hand/wrist/arm. Learned this from pianist cause i figured it was at least somewhat relateble to starcraft players since both do require some serious hand movements.

Found that a lot of people who play piano often permanently damage their hands because they tend to become very tense and use a ton of muscle vs natural pressure and relaxed hands. I guess the key to keep your hand healthy and youthful is to relax your muscles to the best of your ability and create that habit before your problem becomes irreversible.

It's so frustrating at first because you mis-click everything but I can't remember the last time i had a wrist pain and on top of that I'm much faster because of the relaxed state my hands are often in. In the long run it'll benefit you more gameplay wise and health wise.
Chux
Profile Joined June 2009
Peru255 Posts
October 11 2017 14:12 GMT
#2036
On September 29 2017 05:30 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2017 00:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:
http://www.espn.com/esports/story/_/id/20848130/starcraft-beginning-end-legend-jaedong

Really makes you think. I hope he does what is best for him <3


OMG ! I ALMOST START CRYING ! I AM THE BIGGEST JAEDONG FAN IN THE WORLD AND I DON'T WANT HIM TO QUIT BROODWAR !



Dude, I have to get it out, I was almost crying too. I've followed Jaedong almost all his career and the simple thought of him retiring it's just very sad to me. But, as another poster said, health is first. Whatever happens, I wish him the best.
JAEDONG FIGHTING!!!!!
MSL 2052-2053, here we go!
SuperCyan
Profile Joined October 2017
Philippines67 Posts
October 12 2017 10:41 GMT
#2037
I was almost crying too. My wish was he could have ended his career with an ASL championship, or at least a final battle with Flash. It's really painful because as much as we want him to play more, we can clearly see his battle injuries, his eyes, hands and wrists, and convinced by it that he can't do it anymore
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-12 11:24:40
October 12 2017 11:23 GMT
#2038
On October 11 2017 01:28 usopsama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2017 13:45 Letmelose wrote:
http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/25990069

Starting from 01:58:00

Jaedong on himself:

"I forgot everything from the past. I didn't play with my head. I played with my hands, like a machine. To be honest, I forgot everything. Even now I'm not learning as fast as the others. I forgot the build orders. I forgot the maps. Thinking back, I wasn't that talented. I am an idiot. I played like an idiot, and just won through brute force. I'm a hopeless case. I need to start from scratch."

I think we need to be more patient with Jaedong. With his injuries, and lack of professional infrastructure, it certainly won't be easy.

Jaedong knows himself better than anyone. If he admits that he cannot remember the build orders and have to relearn everything, it is understandable that he is struggling against the current top players.

to me he just sounds severely drained and uninspired.

If he got the motivation, and healed up, he'd kill most people with ease again.

No matter what he says, I don't think he 'brute forced' all of his successes. He's just in a very low spot psychologically, and everything seems dark.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 12 2017 14:07 GMT
#2039
It doesn't sound like he can just heal up. The doctors have said that surgery won't help (I believe this info is somewhere in the information from Korea thread). If he somehow could, I believe he would have to quit broodwar for at least 6 months minimum which would be too long and he has to do military service.

Sounds like it's affecting his vision too, so it's best for him physically to quit even though I really don't want it to happen.
When I think of something else, something will go here
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 13 2017 14:39 GMT
#2040
Any news on JD? He didn't stream, etc. A bit worried :O
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